GOP Leader wants Ron Paul barred from future debates

[Horn]

Ron Paul is bad for america he should be supporting our troops and the president

Aren't you Greek or something?

[bigdaddy40]

Ron Paul is bad for america he should be supporting our troops and the president




ya....it's worked well for us in the past:




Quit Meddling in the Middle East

by Rep. Ron Paul
The death of PLO chairman Yasser Arafat last week once again brings the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to the international forefront. The Bush administration finds itself in an uncomfortable but familiar role as peacemaker for yet another intractable, ancient, and deadly Middle East conflict. The popular press and political world both accept without question the notion that the United States is somehow responsible for resolving any and all conflicts around the globe, but especially in Palestine.

We conveniently forget, however, that American tax dollars militarized the entire region in the first place. We give Israel about $3 billion each year, but we also give Egypt $2 billion. Most other Middle East countries get money too, some of which ends up in the hands of Palestinian terrorists. Both sides have far more military weapons as a result. Talk about adding fuel to the fire! Our foolish and unconstitutional foreign aid has produced more violence, not less.

Congress and each successive administration pledge their political, financial, and military support for Israel. Yet while we call ourselves a strong ally of the Israeli people, we send billions in foreign aid every year to some Muslim states that many Israelis regard as enemies. From the Israeli point of view, many of the same Islamic nations we fund with our tax dollars want to destroy the Jewish state. Many average Israelis and American Jews see America as hypocritically hedging its bets.

This illustrates perfectly the inherent problem with foreign aid: once we give money to one country, we have to give it to all the rest or risk making enemies. This is especially true in the Middle East and other strife-torn regions, where our financial support for one side is seen as an act of aggression by the other. Just as our money never makes Israel secure, it doesn't buy us any true friends elsewhere in the region. On the contrary, many Muslims hate the United States despite the billions we give to their governments.

It is time to challenge the notion that it is our job to broker peace in the Middle East and every other troubled region across the globe. America can and should use every diplomatic means at our disposal to end the violence in the West Bank, but we should draw the line at any further entanglement. Third-party outsiders cannot impose political solutions in Palestine or anywhere else. Peace can be achieved only when self-determination operates freely in all nations. "Peace plans" imposed by outsiders or the UN cause resentment and seldom produce lasting peace.

Respect for self-determination really is the cornerstone of a sensible foreign policy, yet many Americans who strongly support U.S. sovereignty advocate interventionist policies that deny other nations that same right. The interventionist approach that has dominated American foreign policy since World War I has produced an unmitigated series of disasters. From Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to the Middle East, American military and economic meddling has made numerous conflicts worse, not better. Washington and Jefferson had it right when they warned against entangling alliances, and the history of the 20th century proves their point. The simple truth is that we cannot resolve every human conflict across the globe, and there will always be violence somewhere on earth. The fatal conceit lies in believing America can impose geopolitical solutions wherever it chooses.

http://www.antiwar.com/paul/index.php?articleid=3987

[dupontcobb]

Signed the petition. I will be making a call as well. Thanks for the heads up.

[bulloncoins]

Signed (over 4300 now). Will call tomorrow.

[silverghost]

Signed (over 4300 now). Will call tomorrow.

4400...word is starting to spread.

[PatColo]

GOP wants to bar Ron Paul from debates because of 9/11 views (http://www.911blogger.com/node/8660)

This whole faux MSM outrage over Ron Paul's saying that 9/11 was essentially blow-back from US foreign policy, reminds me of the noisy media fuss over CU prof Ward Churchill's remarks a few years ago. Churchill basically bolstered the official 911 fable about our being surprise attacked by Muslims, and the MSM cracked the whip, feigned outrage, and tried to define Churchill's writings as the beyond the pale, or as being the outer boundaries of 9/11 dissident/radical opinion.

Pfffft! :tongue_ma:

[G-khan]

4870 and 10,000 by 10 PM - lots of people will get off work and find this..

[bigdaddy40]

GOP wants to bar Ron Paul from debates because of 9/11 views (http://www.911blogger.com/node/8660)

This whole faux MSM outrage over Ron Paul's saying that 9/11 was essentially blow-back from US foreign policy, reminds me of the noisy media fuss over CU prof Ward Churchill's remarks a few years ago. Churchill basically bolstered the official 911 fable about our being surprise attacked by Muslims, and the MSM cracked the whip, feigned outrage, and tried to define Churchill's writings as the beyond the pale, or as being the outer boundaries of 9/11 dissident/radical opinion.

Pfffft! :tongue_ma:





the major difference is paul's right

[eyeofliberty]

Ron Paul is bad for america he should be supporting our troops and the president

TROLL ALERT!

Isn't there a "Mainstream Suck-up" forum somewhere that's missing you?

[Dave Thomas]

Here is another petition that is geared at the RNC in washington. I found this on prisionplanet.com anyways whats the deal this one only has 527 some odd votes! The petition is getting diluted no? Anyways they pleaded with folks to call 1-202-863-8500 and complain. Here is the link to the petition:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/170507actionalert.htm

What the heck?

[RickyJ]

4870 and 10,000 by 10 PM - lots of people will get off work and find this..

I hope they get a million really fast and Paul debates them anyway on You tube. They can't shut his message up now, no matter how hard they try.

[gunner]

I hope they get a million really fast and Paul debates them anyway on You tube. They can't shut his message up now, no matter how hard they try.

Good idea - run youtube and google video ads. We can help distribute for free and spread the message.



Petition signed and email sent. Will call later or some time tomorrow.

Copy of email I sent...

"Are you kidding me?!? Have you seen the polls? America wants more Dr. Paul! Even if you could erase Paul, you can't erase his ideas. He is talking, America is listening, and we like what we hear. His ideas are spreading faster than a wildfire and you guys simply can't find enough water buckets. Clearly he is a major threat to the other candidates. That is the only reason people like you trash him. What's the matter? Are you afraid that he will give the United States back to the people? God forbid!

Take your NWO and shove it!

-Bill"

Great e-mail !! You totally nailed it - they're frightened and trying to shut him down as fast as they can and in any way possible.

[Gknowmx]

Looks like about 250 signatures were added in just the last 20 minutes!

[jon_e_og]

if this is true, its hilarious...

May 17, 2007
Chaos and Shock at Michigan GOP HQ
Posted by Thomas Woods at May 17, 2007 04:36 PM

From the Third Party Watch blog, quoting someone from Students for Ron Paul:

I just spoke with a friend who knows the people who work in the Michigan GOP office. He said the office "can't handle the volume" and "don't know what to do". Saul Anuzis's blackberry is flooded with messages, his voicemail is already full, and Ron Paul supporters are starting to find new phone numbers to reach him.

They are totally freaked out. He told me "they decided to stop answering the phones for the rest of the day because right when they hung up with one Ron Paul supporter the phone started to ring with the next. They couldn't get any work done". And "Saul has turned off his blackberry because he couldn't handle the overload".

He kept telling me how surprised they were at the amount of people calling and emailing. They didn’t know what was going on or who was behind it all. Total shock.

Let's not let this one die. More phone calls and messages tomorrow. Keep the discussion going at the Facebook group.

Email Form:
http://www.migop.org/contact_us.asp

Email:
SAnuzis@migop.org

Phone Number:
517-487-5413

Fax:
517-487-0090

http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/013063.html#more

[SirCruz]

5566 Total Signatures

I have noticed a lot of spammers submitting sig's.

Hopefully the administrator of this petition screens it before submitting it.

[DBcooper]

:yippee:Haha i hope its true:laugh_m: bastards.

[phideaux]

if this is true, its hilarious...

They are totally freaked out. He told me "they decided to stop answering the phones for the rest of the day because right when they hung up with one Ron Paul supporter the phone started to ring with the next. They couldn't get any work done". And "Saul has turned off his blackberry because he couldn't handle the overload".

Email Form:
http://www.migop.org/contact_us.asp

Email:
SAnuzis@migop.org

Phone Number:
517-487-5413

Fax:
517-487-0090

http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/013063.html#more

Right, let's keep jamming their phones and email so that they can't get any work done at all until they include Dr. Paul. This is "Guerilla Marketing" at its finest.

[The Argent Dragon]

Thnx - just sent another email.......will make phone calls next.

I hope his office communications go down - he's a disgrace to the office he holds and the people he represents.

:bear_cry:

[Riskfactor]

if this is true, its hilarious...

May 17, 2007
Chaos and Shock at Michigan GOP HQ
Posted by Thomas Woods at May 17, 2007 04:36 PM

From the Third Party Watch blog, quoting someone from Students for Ron Paul:

I just spoke with a friend who knows the people who work in the Michigan GOP office. He said the office "can't handle the volume" and "don't know what to do". Saul Anuzis's blackberry is flooded with messages, his voicemail is already full, and Ron Paul supporters are starting to find new phone numbers to reach him.

They are totally freaked out. He told me "they decided to stop answering the phones for the rest of the day because right when they hung up with one Ron Paul supporter the phone started to ring with the next. They couldn't get any work done". And "Saul has turned off his blackberry because he couldn't handle the overload".

He kept telling me how surprised they were at the amount of people calling and emailing. They didn’t know what was going on or who was behind it all. Total shock.

Let's not let this one die. More phone calls and messages tomorrow. Keep the discussion going at the Facebook group.

Email Form:
http://www.migop.org/contact_us.asp

Email:
SAnuzis@migop.org

Phone Number:
517-487-5413

Fax:
517-487-0090

http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/013063.html#more


ha ha ha. i imagine Mr. Anuzis might be a little paranoid right now.

[naccarato]

I just signed the petition and let them know Paleo-Conservatives RULE !!!
There were 5712 signers so far.

[The Argent Dragon]

ha ha ha. i imagine Mr. Anuzis might be a little paranoid right now.

Rule #1 - don't mess with Americans

Rule #2 - beware of the Internet

Rule #3 - read rules #1 and #2 again

LET's keep up the Campaign boys !

:getdown:

[eyeofliberty]

if this is true, its hilarious...

May 17, 2007
Chaos and Shock at Michigan GOP HQ
Posted by Thomas Woods at May 17, 2007 04:36 PM

From the Third Party Watch blog, quoting someone from Students for Ron Paul:

I just spoke with a friend who knows the people who work in the Michigan GOP office. He said the office "can't handle the volume" and "don't know what to do". Saul Anuzis's blackberry is flooded with messages, his voicemail is already full, and Ron Paul supporters are starting to find new phone numbers to reach him.


http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/013063.html#more

This is freakin' awesome!

[The Argent Dragon]

Hope this ain't a dupe - SIGN THE PETITION against that Michigan FATHEAD !

Anuzis' actions are being contested by Ron Paul supporter, Dena Turner who has launched The Ron Paul RNC Participation Petition Petition to Republican National Committee to ensure that Ron Paul continues to take part in the debates. Her petition, as of the morning of May 17, had already garnered several hundred signatures.

http://www.petitiononline.com/RPRNC08/petition.html

source :
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=41452

[eyeofliberty]

Hope this ain't a dupe - SIGN THE PETITION against that Michigan FATHEAD !



Nah, it's the same one.

[gunner]

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[RickyJ]

All I could do was laugh when I went to Rudy's page. What a clown for the NWO. I wouldn't trust Rudy as far as I could throw him. It's all a big joke to him and he's having a ball being the NWO's chosen one.

[gunner]

All I could do was laugh when I went to Rudy's page. What a clown for the NWO. I wouldn't trust Rudy as far as I could throw him. It's all a big joke to him and he's having a ball being the NWO's chosen one.

It really is - notice all the DONATE HERE and VOLUNTEER buttons...a friggin laughing stock !!

These clueless elites think that the entire country loves NY and thinks that it's the greatest city in the world. They have Hillary running, and Rude-y, what they don't realise is that these people aren't well liked by most that know of them or their political leanings.

If NYC is so great, then why did he move to South Carolina last year ???

[bigdaddy40]

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just sent mine:


ya got spanked again shammity lol

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/bigDaddy40/hannity-book3.jpg

[gunner]

I emailed the author and will post her response. Worst case scenario, I can print it out and mail it

Dena said that a hard copy of the petition and signatures will be delivered to the RNC next week.

[RealityCheck]

Guys here is a different one written by Alex Jones. Sign it too:

http://www.petitiononline.com/r0npau1/petition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/r0npau1/petition.html)