So let's say Ron becomes President...

[Veritas]

Nothing. But Libertarians tend to say that they believe that the choice should be with the people, not that they're pro-drugs, their opponents twist their words around to make it seem like there will be drugs everywhere! They use the terror card.

I know. I was just playing on their words.

[Veritas]

I suspect Ron Paul wouldn't be that way at all. I suspect most people don't have a clue as to the sweeping changes he would make......and the people that DO have a clue aren't going to let him get anywhere near the Oval Office.

If Ron Paul wins the Presidency, he will make such sweeping changes overnight, Congress willing.

If it is in his power to do so, he will keep his word - especially in abolishing the IRS and income tax.

The shocker will be the simultaneous cuts on Federal spending. A whole bunch of Federal spending programs will be wiped out overnight and America won't understand what that will mean for them until it happens. The babysitting, piggyback riding and free handouts will all come to an end. It is not the role of government to babysit your chldren. It is not the role of government to educate or feed your kids. Government is not responsible for putting food on your table or free money in your pocket. Our government is also not responsible for policing the world or liberating citizens of other countries. This will be a real wake-up call to a lot of Americans.

I highly doubt they will kill Ron Paul. They have other methods of keeping him out of the White House.

[Veritas]

Something to consider, and I am sure that TPTB are doing so feverishly, If the New World Order caps Ron Paul, he will go down as the greatest martyr of our time and the event probably spark a civil war. There are a lot of people who, at that point, will feel like the government has left no other option than the orders given by President Jefferson. It is quite possible that people in the military will too feel that such would be the absolute last straw.

We can only hope it would trigger such a movement....

I suspect that if such a thing were to occur, mass rioting would ensue.

For a full blown civil war to begin, we would need a Tienenman Square type incident to trigger it.

If they are going to cap Paul, the longer they wait to do so, the worse the "blowback" will be.

[Veritas]

Some of the world won't be particularly welcoming when we stop policing.

They won't need to be welcoming...we'll no longer have a presence there.

They would harbor animosity, and ones that were profiting would have a hissy if they even could stand up, my guess is Japan would be eaten by China, but this is all in proper balance for the globalists mission.

It won't be our problem. It will be Japans problem.

And again Israel, may have to be moved to the border between Arizona and Mexico, because after the nuking the place will be uninhabitable.

Again, not our problem. Let Israel fight their own battles. If they cease to exist, then they cease to exist. Let somebody else bear the burden of bailing them out. Not our problem.

[SAUM]

If he doesn't make it I'm nearly certain that the interwebs will be censored within four years and GIM will cease to exist. If it weren't for the net Ron wouldn't have the stroke that he has now and you can bet that the elites are taking notice.

[jingles]

One thing a president can do is repeal any of the kazillion executive orders that he thinks is wrong.
I'm not 100% sure on this, only 99%. Think of that kind of power. Think of the sweeping change that would make.

[crud3w4re]

All individuals would finally have the chance to achieve prosperity, no longer would the elitists hold the common man down! America, as it is now, gives Capitalism a bad name, and it's funny to know that what we live in is more aligned to Fascism than it is to a true free market.

Corporations are NOT natural elements of the free market!

[Corporate_slave]

I highly doubt that programs will be cut overnight. Pretty much everything will be handed down to the states for review. Jobs will be created at the state-level to replace the functions currently being performed by the Federal gvmnt. I think there will be at least a year of planning, then a year of transition, then a year of recovery, and then a year of re-evaluation.

You can't just cut everything off cold-turkey... there would utter chaos.


And don't forget: Once the Federal gvmnt has been appropriately down-sized, the States will have more power; and we will all be on our own against our respective State gvmnts in the fight for freedom...

FFT

[Veritas]

One thing a president can do is repeal any of the kazillion executive orders that he thinks is wrong.
I'm not 100% sure on this, only 99%. Think of that kind of power. Think of the sweeping change that would make.

Both Congress and the Supreme Court have the power to overturn an EO.

[G-khan]

Both Congress and the Supreme Court have the power to overturn an EO.

Yes they do but will they dare? If he gets elected it will be a revolution.......

[Veritas]

Yes they do but will they dare?

Nope. They've only done so twice. It's a tough process because the President has the power to veto, after which 2/3 majority of both chambers is required to override a Presidential veto.

It's more difficult than passing an new Amendment.

If he gets elected it will be a revolution.......

If he gets elected it will be a miracle.

It will become a revolution if anything happens to him before or after the elections.

[Searchronpaul]

There's pretty good article on this subject at Strike The Root...

http://www.strike-the-root.com/71/davis/davis2.html

Some of the article's highlights are:

Ron Paul for President gives many people hope that the system can work. If only the right man could take the reins, then this beast would be controlled and used for good purposes. The long years of conditioning and indoctrination are difficult to get past.

...The romanticism of an old-college-try is inspired by the genuine good-nature of Dr. Paul. His sincerity, intelligence, knowledge of economics and dedication to the ideals of liberty elevate this humble man to a very special status among those who would wear The Ring. He is the only politician alive with whom I have a hard time finding disagreement with. Of the 535 members of Congress, Ron Paul is the only person who truly deserves the title Honorable.

...I believe that Ron Paul will scare the living daylights out of the powers-that-be and has a better chance of winning than most pundits think. The amusement factor alone from an 18-month spectacle of political debate between a principled man committed to liberty and the other fakes and frauds is likely to be worth the price of admission. This will be a media event of the highest entertainment order for sure.

...The interests of “political science” can be furthered as empirical data galore should come forth from this grand experiment.

...The self-delusion isn’t that he could maybe win the election, it’s that he could do anything of substance if he actually did win.

...So I do hope he runs and wins. Not because I think that he will strike through the root of evil, but because I know that he can’t. The naïve notion that the Constitution is a cage for politicians, and that a brave politician-tamer can just push them back into that cage and close the door makes windmills look like giants.

...A President Ron Paul will either (1) be thwarted by the vested interests that have so much influence over the existing political system or (2) liquidate those interests. The smart money is on the bet that he is...
complete article: http://www.strike-the-root.com/71/davis/davis2.html


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[Horn]

They won't need to be welcoming...we'll no longer have a presence there.



It won't be our problem. It will be Japans problem.



Again, not our problem. Let Israel fight their own battles. If they cease to exist, then they cease to exist. Let somebody else bear the burden of bailing them out. Not our problem.

I'm sure Israel and others would find a way to make it our problem.

How long has it been going on? The routines all these leaders are accustomed to, I imagine it would take that long to reverse.

It would be a policy change that would have to stay in place long after Paul is gone to have any chance of success.

Again I agree and support for President, but as Tn Andy said it's a long shot.

But I do hope and pray for his message to reach the people and for the people to demand this from all their leaders...political or otherwise, it should accommodate a paradigm switch at all levels of society, not just the Fed.

Just trying to be realistic in my hopes... should he fail... I may (unlike Tn Andy) be seeking residence in other places of the globe.

Without Ron Paul's policy the remnant of what was the U.S. will fade into burning ash dust.

[Horn]

Ron Paul needs a revolution to become elected.

[mamboni]

ABC post debate poll results May 23 (N=26,621 voters)

[Horn]

I guess I missed the debate?

Did I?

[mamboni]

I guess I missed the debate?

Did I?

Nevermind the debate!!! You are a GIMer and one the privileged and enlightened who already have received the word (spoken reverently in slightly hushed tones: Ron Paul, the next president of the United States).
So, I say:

Ask not what Ron Paul can do you for,
ask what you can do for Ron Paul.:yippee:

[Veritas]

Ask not what Ron Paul can do you for, ask what you can do for Ron Paul.:yippee:

Ron Paul says that we were attacked on 9/11 as a result of our agressive military campaign in the ME, which included bombing Iraq for 10 years.

Do you agree with Ron Paul?

[Horn]

Ron Paul says that we were attacked on 9/11 as a result of our agressive military campaign in the ME, which included bombing Iraq for 10 years.

Do you agree with Ron Paul?

There's a clinical term for what you've been suffering from since Halo was lost.

[Veritas]

There's a clinical term for what you've been suffering from since Halo was lost.

You mean banned?

I've heard it before - "medical experts" (like Dr. Mamboni) have discovered that anyone who believes any piece of the official story, must be brain-damaged.

I'm sure there's also a clinical term for what the CT circle-jerk network is suffering from.

FWIW - I posted a question to Mamboni. I assumed KG would make an attempt at an answer in his stead. I didn't expect that you were another head on that dragon.

[KingTheoden]

Let's not be divided here- the fact is Ron Paul is the best hope we have had in a long, long time. He is a real person, not a polished and fake political insider. We can win this thing because all of the establishment candidates for the GOP are assured losers. Even their Fred Thompson scam is not going to work in my view. It is in many ways it is ours to lose and such will happen if we fight amongst ourselves.

[Horn]

I didn't expect that you were another head on that dragon.


So, wrong grasshopper.

[Veritas]

Let's not be divided here- the fact is Ron Paul is the best hope we have had in a long, long time. He is a real person, not a polished and fake political insider. We can win this thing because all of the establishment candidates for the GOP are assured losers. Even their Fred Thompson scam is not going to work in my view. It is in many ways it is ours to lose and such will happen if we fight amongst ourselves.

I agree.

I don't need to defend myself here. I've already been attacked from all angles because I won't buy into the 9/11 controlled demolition theory.

[Horn]

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