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ForTheRepulic
05-21-2007, 10:33 PM
Do you think it is likely Ron Paul will be the next president.

It will NEVER happen.
It is not very likely.
Maybe, Maybe not.
I've got a good feeling about this.
It's a done deal, most people just don't know it yet.
Other....

Satyr
05-21-2007, 10:50 PM
It's still too soon to tell, but I have a good feeling about it. Let's just focus on the primaries for now. If he could win that, I'd say we'd be in good shape.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/bc2412/GotFacts.jpg

Christopher
05-22-2007, 12:13 AM
Half of the republican party....plus millions of Independents will support Ron Paul.

KingTheoden
05-22-2007, 12:27 AM
We have to genuinely believe it can happen or else we might as well give up now. It is like that Star Trek episode when the top guys are stuck in a sort of lucid dream about the OK Corral; if they think it is real, Spock tells them that they will die if shot. However, if they fully accept the fact that they are in an unreal state, they can be shot and it will make no difference. A better example might be in going for a girl; foremost, above all else, you have to exude confidence. If you don't have that, you won't be going far.

Ron Paul's message is one that is truly unique. People on all parts of the spectrum are flocking to him as our last best hope to peacefully return to a Constitutional republic. Once he gains more attention, a lot of the drones who ran to Obama will join with us. Regular Republicans will awake from their spells and join us. Democrats will join us. And that is what has the powers that be so afraid; a man is charging straight in to the horde of invaders and gaining legions of selfless followers. Ron Paul doesn't care about the consequences because he, bravely, has concluded that he must do the right thing. For the past week, whenever I have seen Ron Paul on Youtube or heard him on the radio and his growing crowds, all I could think of was the lyrics to the following song:

http://www.37thtexas.org/html/soubatlcry.html

Our flag is proudly floating
On the land and on the main,
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!
Beneath it oft we've conquered,
And we'll conquer oft again!
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!

Our Dixie forever!
She's never at a loss!
Down with the eagle
And up with the cross!
We'll rally 'round the bonny flag,
We'll rally once again,
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!

Our gallant boys have marched
To the rolling of the drums,
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!
And the leaders in charge cry out,
"Come, boys, come!"
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!--

Our Dixie forever!
She's never at a loss!
Down with the eagle
And up with the cross!
We'll rally 'round the bonny flag,
We'll rally once again,
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!

They have laid down their lives
On the bloody battle field,
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!
Their motto is resistance --
"To tyrants we'll not yield!"
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!--

Our Dixie forever!
She's never at a loss!
Down with the eagle
And up with the cross!
We'll rally 'round the bonny flag,
We'll rally once again,
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!

While our boys have responded
And to the fields have gone,
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!
Our noble women also
Have aided them at home,
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!--

Our Dixie forever!
She's never at a loss!
Down with the eagle
And up with the cross!
We'll rally 'round the bonny flag,
We'll rally once again,
Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!

silverghost
05-22-2007, 12:47 AM
I've got a good feeling about his ability to fundamentally change the debate...whether he becomes president or not is dependent on a number of factors we cant possibly know.

If he runs as an independent, he might be able to pull it off or least have a hand in building the largest third party of the modern era.

RickyJ
05-22-2007, 12:58 AM
Only if he's a plant. He appears to be the real thing to me, but who knows? The anti-Christ will also appear to be the solution when he comes and will deceive many.

Goldhedge
05-22-2007, 01:16 AM
I think he's got a chance, if the media hacks would put a sock in it.

The paid shills are trying all kinds of disinfo to move opinion.

Funny thing is, anyone who hears him knows he is telling the truth. They see through the media spin.

ForeverInDebt
05-22-2007, 01:38 AM
Only if he's a plant. He appears to be the real thing to me, but who knows? The anti-Christ will also appear to be the solution when he comes and will deceive many.
I doubt that Ron Paul is the AntiChrist. Bush has deceived many more.

Ron Paul has spoken the truth so far.

Christopher
05-22-2007, 01:49 AM
Only if he's a plant. He appears to be the real thing to me, but who knows? The anti-Christ will also appear to be the solution when he comes and will deceive many.


Mathew 7: 20

By their works ye shall know them.


Not everyone is a plant. :bike:

KingTheoden
05-22-2007, 02:07 AM
Mathew 7: 20

By their works ye shall know them.


Not everyone is a plant. :bike:

I second that.

crud3w4re
05-22-2007, 03:04 AM
Has a "minor candidate" ever garnered this much grassroots support? I'm just seeing Ron Paul all over the place..

ForTheRepulic
05-22-2007, 03:35 AM
Has a "minor candidate" ever garnered this much grassroots support? I'm just seeing Ron Paul all over the place..


It might have something to do with there unwarranted attacks on Dr. Paul. And the fact that no real conservative would back Rudy. They seem to just be feeding the anger of many people who loath Fox New or Rudy. You might call it "blowback".

KingTheoden
05-22-2007, 03:38 AM
Has a "minor candidate" ever garnered this much grassroots support? I'm just seeing Ron Paul all over the place..

AJ fears that if this continues to spike and Ron Paul wins a primary, say in New Hampshire, that TPTB will not stand for it and take him out. I think it is important for all of us to keep him and his family in mind for the next several months. If you check out his Alexa ratings, they are simply force multiplying better than any of us could have dreamed.



He's beating Barak in page rank!!!

Horn
05-22-2007, 03:42 AM
AJ fears that if this continues to spike and Ron Paul wins a primary, say in New Hampshire, that TPTB will not stand for it and take him out. I think it is important for all of us to keep him and his family in mind for the next several months. If you check out his Alexa ratings, they are simply force multiplying better than any of us could have dreamed.



He's beating Barak in page rank!!!


They won't "take him out" until he is president, and pisses some group off.

If they did it now, it would be too obvious that his philosophy was being silenced, before even being executed.

crud3w4re
05-22-2007, 04:28 AM
Solution: If he has a Libertarian Vice President, then the elites are out of luck. JFK had Lyndon B. Johnson as his Vice... a truly worthless President, no wonder why they murdered JFK!

mamboni
05-22-2007, 09:24 AM
Just listen to these viewer comments on C-Span after the republican debate - these are the common folk and they can see the republican machine for the corrupt machine that it is and support Ron Paul because he is honest and tells it like it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5VeaUW12pY

Who wins the presidency is entirely a matter of perception: sheeple will vote for the candidate they like if they percieve him as competitive, as winable, because they want to be on the side of a winner. That is the essence of the sheeple: follow the herd. We have to convince a critical mass of people that Ron Paul is the one.

RaccoonRiverRadical
05-22-2007, 09:34 AM
My informal survey indicates that most people don't even know who Ron Paul is and the MSM will probably try and keep it that way.

mamboni
05-22-2007, 09:44 AM
My informal survey indicates that most people don't even know who Ron Paul is and the MSM will probably try and keep it that way.

Are you related to River Rat?:rofl:

Libertarian_Guard
05-22-2007, 09:44 AM
My informal survey indicates that most people don't even know who Ron Paul is and the MSM will probably try and keep it that way.


Quite true.

We're in an uphill battle and the deck remains stacked against us.

RaccoonRiverRadical
05-22-2007, 09:53 AM
Quite true.

We're in an uphill battle and the deck remains stacked against us.

Yes, if nothing else supporting Ron Paul for President is a worthwhile protest.

RaccoonRiverRadical
05-22-2007, 09:54 AM
Are you related to River Rat?:rofl:

Not that I know of, but I recognize your avatar I think.

mamboni
05-22-2007, 11:02 AM
Not that I know of, but I recognize your avatar I think.

That's just my daytime mask.:chat:

Goldfinger
05-22-2007, 11:24 AM
My hope for his campaign was for him to simply open a few eyes. I just wanted to see him in a live debate, on national TV, debating issues with the frontrunners. I've got to be honest, I didn't think he had a chance in hell of actually winning. I still think the odds are against him, but he has already far exceeded my hopes. You say the name Ron Paul now and people know who he is.

I was completely blown away this past weekend when we went to visit my inlaws. We were having a discussion and I mentioned inflation tax....they knew exactly what I was talking about and agreed 100%. Folks, he's already making a difference. I think there are a lot more people paying attention than most of us ever thought...

crud3w4re
05-22-2007, 02:15 PM
I'm so tired of the biasness of Fox News! Anyone watch? They just showed a "you vote 08" thingy before the commercials and only showed Mccain, Romney, and Giuliani as the candidates vs Edwards, Clinton, and Obama...

wtf WHAT THE HELL DECIDES WEATHER OR NOT A MAN IS A "MAJOR CANDIDATE" Obama is only considered a "major candidate" due to him being biracial *cough cough* "black," isn't he a Junior Congressman? Hillary is only a "major candidate" because she's female, AND a Clinton, why should that matter? Edwards can bring in the money from his lawyer friends, he sure as hell isn't conserving money! ha

Giuliani has the special interests, Mccain is an insider, and Romney is a lip flopping elite. What gives Fox News the right to decide who the so-called "major candidates" are? They are ruining the process! If someone complains, they spew ad hominem, somemore of "conspracy theorist crock" insults and such.

Ron Paul is not even a "9/11 Truther" Ron Paul should SUE Gibson / Michelle Malken for defamation! In a time when character counts, no doubt.. they called him a "9/11 truther" just because he appeared on Alex Jones' radio show, he goes ANYWHERE for the exposure! And he did not reject an "invitation" to go on the O'reilly Factor, what a joke. The only thing Ron Paul has said was, and psaraphrasing here: "we need investigations" but never did he EVER say that the US government was behind 9/11. And the neo cons are making it out like he said just that, that's clearly defamation, and character assassination in a time when he needs to shine!

Chris Tucker is a libertarian, he may be the only decent guy in the news.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lye4VjMMQE

Ardent Listener
05-22-2007, 02:27 PM
Like George Washington he might have to lead a second American revolution first.

crud3w4re
05-22-2007, 03:01 PM
You know... if Ron Paul made a call to arms, I would probably join... :yippee: The truth on the situation with the Federal Reserve is enough to say that Ron Paul is the only candidate that needs to be in the White House. None of the others, from either party, will stop the Federal Reserve. That's the truth. Just look at Tommy Thompson... when asked what he would cut in the government, he made reference to something I never heard of. He's representative of the fellow candidates on stage. Ron Paul wants to: Eliminate the IRS, Federal Reserve, Department of Energy, Department of Education, and the economy will most definately bloom under Ron Paul!

I've seen foreignors say that they're jealous that Ron Paul in an American!

Libertarian_Guard
05-22-2007, 03:09 PM
In all likelihood this poll reflects a persons age, nearly to the degree that it reflects a persons optimism of Ron Paul becoming our next president.

Like so many other observations, I’m stating the obvious, in concluding that the more someone has ‘been around the block’ the less likely they’ll allow themselves to become overly optimistic of a Ron Paul presidency.

Older voters may support this movement as enthusiastically as younger supporters, with the only difference being, after having held greater reservations, they’ll suffer less ‘shock’ of the final outcome.

Doubt, at least in part, must be a form of self-defense against failure.

Only the youthful can be truly passionate and completely throw themselves into a cause without looking back. Emotionally speaking, it mirrors love to fully commit oneself without reservations.

crud3w4re
05-22-2007, 03:25 PM
Yeah, I'm really young, and I do know that it's a longshot that he could win. He may have the internet vote, but why is he at 1-3% offline? Biasness? Pollster manipulation? We need to hit doubles.

The Libertarian Party needs to drop their own bid and support Ron Paul 100%

KingTheoden
05-22-2007, 06:00 PM
Yeah, I'm really young, and I do know that it's a longshot that he could win. He may have the internet vote, but why is he at 1-3% offline? Biasness? Pollster manipulation? We need to hit doubles.

The Libertarian Party needs to drop their own bid and support Ron Paul 100%

That is because is the mainstream standard polls, they include people like Fred Thompson and Gingrich, neither people have filed paperwork with the FEC. Worse, they only give selections for the 'top five' (Thompson, Gingrich with the three stooges of Benito, McCain, and Mitt); if you want to vote for someone else, then you have to select 'other' and manually give your choice.

Ignore the mainstream polls. Dobson came out saying he would never support Guiliani (think he will have his flock vote for a Mormon?) and McCain has effectively taken himself out of the race with his amnesty lovefest. The CFR Thompson trial balloon failed because his so-called conservative record was believed as true by only low grade morons.

We just have to standfast and see this thing through. I am stunned at some of the people I know who are joining Ron Paul groups on Facebook.

MAGNES
05-22-2007, 07:39 PM
You guys are just thinking about winning ?

He is getting the message out, conservative principles,
he says this, the Republican Party is out of tune.

He is taking on all challengers and "journalists".

This is a big win, and wins every time he opens his mouth on the issues.

More people will wake up to the facts of who controls the USA, not the people.

They will see the media for what it is, controlled by foreign interests working to destroy the USA from within, tied to many issues all tied together.

Giuliani "BEST" for Isreal (http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=61140)