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REV127
05-22-2007, 04:54 PM
Check out

www.2008horserace.com (http://www.2008horserace.com)

and take a look at Paul's picture. They have singled him out and posted "SPAMMER" in big red letters.

I also know well more than 32 people have voted for him so far. Take screen caps and vote.

REV127
05-22-2007, 04:56 PM
Yup, now it is showing only 4 votes for Paul.

Krugerrand
05-22-2007, 04:59 PM
I also know well more than 32 people have voted for him so far. Take screen caps and vote.
I just put in a vote for Ron Paul, and the results show him as having FOUR total votes.

That's strange when just a few minutes before, you saw it at 32. :mad:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9536/ronpaultl0.jpg




Hopefully more folks here can vote and report on the running total. Maybe it will actually start to increase as people place their votes!

Libertarian_Guard
05-22-2007, 05:08 PM
This whole racehorse site in nonsense, so why shouldn't their poll be a farce as well.

What are you googling ..... "Ron Paul rigged polls"

slvrbugjim
05-22-2007, 05:15 PM
Scroll down a bit and here is what you will read

Ron Paul Defends U.S. Constitution
It's okay to be called a horses ass in America... In response to ongoing spam attacks racetrack officials issued a ruling banning Ron Paul's entire barn workforce from the racetrack indefinitely. All prior and future wagers placed on Ron Paul were declared invalid and deleted from the toteboard. Ron Paul will continue to be allowed morning workouts on the training track and keep his Howdy Doody puppet. He'll need to hire all new assistant trainers, grooms and hotwalkers with legal U.S. immigration status.


That pretty much sums it up about this website, very controled and rigged for the preselected candidates.

Libertarian_Guard
05-22-2007, 05:25 PM
Clearly Ron Paul would win the election if all voters were required to register and vote online.

Even this horserace site is confirming his internet popularity.

Tragedy Trousers
05-22-2007, 05:46 PM
This is interesting. I voted for Ron Paul and the number did not change. Its still 4. For the heck of it I then voted for Giuliani who had 2375 votes. What do you know, it changed to 2376 after I voted. Clearly a rigged poll.

KingTheoden
05-22-2007, 05:49 PM
I just voted and the count is at 10. By the way, that is one of the worst built websites online so I would not put too much stock in their sniping at Ron Paul.

me_ummagumma
05-22-2007, 06:39 PM
some of you people don't know a joke when you see one

Corporate_slave
05-22-2007, 06:42 PM
I voted, and then I posted this comment:

Posted By: Voice of Reason

Posted On: 0 sec.
Views: 1
Speaking without difinitive statements

Has anyone asked themselves why Ron Paul's supporters are SO aggressive about getting his message heard? How is it that Ron Paul seems to keep winning these polls that allow pretty much ANYONE to vote, as opposed to extremely small groups from biased districts? How did Ron Paul come in second place on the Fox News text message poll? They say that he had a team of people go around urging people to vote... Well... that's what campaigning is all about! Why didn't Giuliani have that kind of support?

Have you ever stopped and wondered what he is saying to get these people so energized to get his name out there?

Did you know that the major news networks are owned by huge multi-billion dollar corporations that accept millions and millions of dollars from candidates to advertise on their networks and websites?

Oh, and by the way: I found out about this website from an online forum of about 300 members that ALL support Ron Paul, and at least 50 of them posted that they had voted, and that the the results on this poll remained at 4.

Just because you can't cope with the idea that Ron Paul could possibly win that many online polls without cheating, doesn't mean that throwing out his votes will keep him down...

The message of freedom is getting out. The message of government WITHOUT corruption is getting out. People are waking up and realizing that even though the American Dream has been stolen from them, there is still *one* politician in Washington that fights to get it back into the daily lives of the American People.

The *American People* choose their President - *NOT* the corporate-owned mainstream media!

REV127
05-22-2007, 07:30 PM
Well, here you go. They've removed more votes. Check it out, down to only 1.

It seems that lies are the only weapon against Paul they have.

Corporate_slave
05-22-2007, 07:45 PM
They have deleted all of the comments too!

I re-posted mine with this pre-amble:

Posted By: YOU CAN'T CENSOR THE TRUTH

Posted On: 0 sec.
Views: 1
STOP DELETING MY COMMENT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am an average citizen who supports Ron Paul.

I have PERSONALLY watched this site DELETE ALL OF RON PAUL'S VOTES. He had over 70 an hour ago, now he has 6.

I posted this comment on this site earlier today, but when I came back to check on it... IT WAS DELETED - along with all of the other comments in favor of Ron Paul.


ONCE AGAIN: MY COMMENT
(Screen shots have been taken.)

Corporate_slave
05-22-2007, 07:55 PM
They deleted the new comment, and Ron Paul has been REMOVED from the poll!!!!

To add insult to injury:

Your IP has been banned by the administrator of this forum.
You are not permited to post comments.

Blorp
05-22-2007, 08:06 PM
Yep,

I posted earlier and now I notice the "DQ" next to Dr. Paul's name.

They must not like the results their 'test' provided.

Hope those guys aren't in charge of the electronic voting machines.

Blorp

Blorp
05-22-2007, 08:13 PM
I have to comment in places like that. I don't care if they IP ban me or not. I've never been there before and probably won't return.

Figured I'd leave some internet graffiti.

Their mods will probably remove it in a few.

Blorp

http://www.ellzey.org/screenshot.jpg

Libertarian_Guard
05-22-2007, 08:31 PM
The people that run the HorseCrap poll should produce negative numbers for Ron Paul. It would be a first and they could more effectively make their point.

crud3w4re
05-22-2007, 09:29 PM
yea..

Your IP has been banned by the administrator of this forum.
You are not permited to post comments.

I hate these people. Funny that theres' no contact info ha I really hope that this isn't mainstream!

Riskfactor
05-22-2007, 09:33 PM
stop visiting the site. don't give them your hits.

crud3w4re
05-22-2007, 09:34 PM
http://disinter.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/2008horserace-running-fraudulent-poll/

check this out

gpond
05-22-2007, 10:40 PM
This is how Ron Paul will be deep sixed. Get used to it, but never never forget what is about to happen to Ron Paul. An education like this is priceless in understanding how the system works. It will be undeniable, and you will know, forever.

Sukhoi_fan
05-22-2007, 10:45 PM
This is how Ron Paul will be deep sixed. Get used to it, but never never forget what is about to happen to Ron Paul. An education like this is priceless in understanding how the system works. It will be undeniable, and you will know, forever.

I think you're right.

But miracles do happen, and if RP prevails, that will qualify as a miracle.

Kahlil Gibran
05-23-2007, 12:42 AM
This is how Ron Paul will be deep sixed. Get used to it, but never never forget what is about to happen to Ron Paul. An education like this is priceless in understanding how the system works. It will be undeniable, and you will know, forever.

How much more confirmation that the System is rigged do people need?




:sleepy13: today Democrats voted for the Military Budget with no exit deadline in Iraq

silverghost
05-23-2007, 01:53 AM
I voted, and then I posted this comment:

Posted By: Voice of Reason

Posted On: 0 sec.
Views: 1
Speaking without difinitive statements

Has anyone asked themselves why Ron Paul's supporters are SO aggressive about getting his message heard? How is it that Ron Paul seems to keep winning these polls that allow pretty much ANYONE to vote, as opposed to extremely small groups from biased districts? How did Ron Paul come in second place on the Fox News text message poll? They say that he had a team of people go around urging people to vote... Well... that's what campaigning is all about! Why didn't Giuliani have that kind of support?

Have you ever stopped and wondered what he is saying to get these people so energized to get his name out there?

Did you know that the major news networks are owned by huge multi-billion dollar corporations that accept millions and millions of dollars from candidates to advertise on their networks and websites?

Oh, and by the way: I found out about this website from an online forum of about 300 members that ALL support Ron Paul, and at least 50 of them posted that they had voted, and that the the results on this poll remained at 4.

Just because you can't cope with the idea that Ron Paul could possibly win that many online polls without cheating, doesn't mean that throwing out his votes will keep him down...

The message of freedom is getting out. The message of government WITHOUT corruption is getting out. People are waking up and realizing that even though the American Dream has been stolen from them, there is still *one* politician in Washington that fights to get it back into the daily lives of the American People.

The *American People* choose their President - *NOT* the corporate-owned mainstream media!

well done!

crud3w4re
05-23-2007, 02:48 AM
http://lonelantern.org/site/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=114

there's a blog about 2008horserace.com there.. It's on the middle of the page through that link.

LoneLantern.org - Gary Franchi - 5/22/07 - I just called the webmaster of 2008HorseRace.Com, James Hall, and asked why Ron Paul was removed from his poll. He said because Ron Paul's fans are jerks, then he hung up on me. I called him back and said, "James, let's talk, I just want to communicate with you..." he replied "F*** you guys" and then hung up. I called back, and said, "James, please, I just want to know what happened..." he replied, "F*** you Ron Paul Mother F***ers, F*** You!" I called him back and let him know I would broadcast his foul language across the net. He said that would be fine and that I could, "F*** off!"

It is clear to see that James Hall of 2008HorseRace.com is a biased and unreasonable person. Feel free to call him if you want to find out for yourself, But I am warning you, he uses strong language.

It reveals the webmasters phone # and address.

I found this blog through http://www.ronpaulpresshub.com/wiki/index.php?title=Polls it has a list of Ron Paul polls there. :)

compass
05-23-2007, 03:56 AM
It turns out that this person running the horserace also owns lightlens and seems to have a very bad attitude in general. Check out all the complaints posted about their lack of customer service:
http://tinyurl.com/2twp55

artfarmartfarm
05-23-2007, 04:18 AM
We should contact 2008horserace.com/ 's advertisers and complain about the treatment of Ron Paul

Libertarian_Guard
05-23-2007, 09:32 AM
This is nothing. The racehorse site is obligated to no one and they don’t need to be fair. We all know that neither life nor the world is fair. If they feel the need to declare Bozo the clown winner of THEIR poll - - so be it. It’s THEIR poll and they don’t hide the fact that it’s rigged.

We’ll likely see other polls, with more legitimate standings, rigging THEIR polling / surveys in subtle ways.

Someone else mentioned to quit clicking onto his bogus site. I’ll second that idea. Right now he’s probably happy knowing that he is upsetting Ron Paul's supporters.

In a way all this random poll voting is of minimum value. If all the same Ron Paul internet supporters overwhelm most polls, it can be said that he is being overly represented ( in polling data ) by a small segment of voters.

It is good to see that his supporters are motivated, but we’ll need more constructive measures to help spread his message, other than winning internet polling.

KingTheoden
05-23-2007, 10:11 AM
It is good to see that his supporters are motivated, but we’ll need more constructive measures to help spread his message, other than winning internet polling.

Well said. I think continued activity on the Internet is necessary and we should make our Facebooks, MySpaces, etc. Ron Paul zones. We should vigorously inject our opinions via email, blog responses, and online polls.

However, that is a mere fraction of what will be necessary in order to really win this thing. Here is a short list:

1) Contribute money. Cash especially. This is simply part of the territory of campaigning and given that Ron Paul is risking everything, I think it is morally responsible for all of us to offer whatever is possible.

2) Ground pounding. I joined a MeetUp group for Ron Paul for the Triad. I think that by building strong local networks of support, these can become mechanisms for educating people not yet aware of Ron Paul.

3) Wake up family. Forget the line about avoiding politics in the presence of family; this is it. If we do not make a stand in this election, I really think that Aaron Russo is correct in saying that we will find ourselves in 1984. I used to bite my tongue when a relative would make an asanine remark about how the government should 'do something.' No more will I keep quiet.

As a sort of corollary to 2, we should look into the process in setting up PACs. I have no idea what the law is in terms of raising money as a group and giving it to a candidate; to quote the movie The Rock when describing Alcatraz, something tells me that the law is a maze of sh**. On Facebook, a group raised over $1000 in a matter of hours, but how do they give it without upsetting the FEC Geustopo?

I decided to flush the bombers as they say and give the max $2300. This battle is worth tapping trading accounts in my view.

crud3w4re
05-23-2007, 10:28 AM
I'd say that the Facebook group that rased 1k should just contribute as an individual, unless the members want the group recognition? The group owner could donate it as an individual, then, if over $2300 is raised, and if he's not married, then they could use another group members information for donating more money.

bjgnome
05-23-2007, 11:21 AM
Just change the name from Horserace08 to Diebold and there you have it.