CS and the flu situation

[AgAuGal]

I have been thinking about ordering some ASAP since I am not eligible for the vaccine this year even with asthma. I took the vaccine for the last 4 years and did not get the flu. Before that always got it. Can anyone report that CS kept them from getting the flu? Some articles I read say CS works only on bacteria but others claim virus'. Silver Streak or Khan, do you or anyone know what the theraputic amount of ASAP I should take to ward off the flu? I ordered 10 ppm last time. Is that the correct solution or should I be ordering the 20 PPM. Also, how much should be taken daily, how much is enough?

They have taken away sick days at work so I am expecting more people to be at work even if they have the flu.

TIA

[AgAuGal]

Thanks Skyvike. I can bake cookies so that is encouraging. I think Khan recommends a particular CS maker. Going to have to find his thread. In the mean time I may order ASAP just to get started. You are right, it is no longer inexpensive even in volume.

[G-khan]

Thanks Skyvike. I can bake cookies so that is encouraging. I think Khan recommends a particular CS maker. Going to have to find his thread. In the mean time I may order ASAP just to get started. You are right, it is no longer inexpensive even in volume.
This is the one gpond and I have... Very easy to use and shuts off when it is done.. You get enough silver with it to make enough for years.. each gallon will cost about 75 cents to make..

http://wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Maker_777_AC.html

[AgAuGal]

Thanks Khan. How long have you used this device and the resulting CS? This is definitely a more economical way to go than purchasing ASAP. ASAP is clear, no color. The literature on the Master indicates a resulting yelow or brown. What has been your experience with the batches you have made? I was a bit concerned by this statement:

'Special note: If one is planning to make silver water / colloidal silver as a dietary supplement, the burden is solely upon the user to make sure they are compliant with established laws, we do not warrant the Colloid Master (R) for such use, it is intended for research and educational purposes only!

We are convinced that the colloid produced with the Colloid Master (R) is superior to or equal to the best most stable colloidal silver available via any process, (when one is meaning by colloidal silver: Silver self suspended in water and no additives!) we beleive we have accomplished our initial goals, but it is a work in progress.'

That is why I am asking how long you and skyvike have been using this machine. Also, do you recommend the PPM meter to verify results?

Thanks again for the replies.

[G-khan]

Thanks Khan. How long have you used this device and the resulting CS? This is definitely a more economical way to go than purchasing ASAP. ASAP is clear, no color. The literature on the Master indicates a resulting yelow or brown. What has been your experience with the batches you have made? I was a bit concerned by this statement:

'Special note: If one is planning to make silver water / colloidal silver as a dietary supplement, the burden is solely upon the user to make sure they are compliant with established laws, we do not warrant the Colloid Master (R) for such use, it is intended for research and educational purposes only!

We are convinced that the colloid produced with the Colloid Master (R) is superior to or equal to the best most stable colloidal silver available via any process, (when one is meaning by colloidal silver: Silver self suspended in water and no additives!) we beleive we have accomplished our initial goals, but it is a work in progress.'

That is why I am asking how long you and skyvike have been using this machine. Also, do you recommend the PPM meter to verify results?

Thanks again for the replies.I have been using this for almost 1 year and at set it at 5.5 and it comes out clear with a slight gold tint that can only be seen if you look for it. I had it tested one time and a 5.5 setting was making about 12 ppm solution. I believe it is as good as any you will buy anywhere and very simple to use. gpond not skyvike has one like I do. That model has been around for 8 years or so and has proven itself as a good solid unit. I would be more concerned buying CS that someone else is making than the stuff you make from this generator. At least you will know just what is in it and how it was made...

G-khan All I can say is I am very happy with it and if there was anything bad to tell you about it - for sure I would.

[AgAuGal]

Thanks so much Khan. I am going to order one this week. By the way, I have been reading that "Life after the Crash" book. Truely disturbing. And we thought one of our biggest challenges was to select the next President. If you have not read it I would suggest taking a look. Boy could this be a basis of long discussions at the next get together. That's if I have the courage to finish it. I,m going to look for the thread now to encourage GIM posters to read it. I think Puplava is going to interview the author next week.

Don't think I'll get much sleep tonight thinking about Peak Oil. All of a sudden I feel so insignificant. Where is Irish when I need him.

Later,
AAG

[SilverStreak]

Have used CS for 10 years continuously both the ASAP and my own making at more than 75 parts per million---I buy ASAP as a shareholder special from Clifton 50 ASAP bottles for $300 once a year for traveling ---Have Lupus and the medicine i take for that reduces the effectiveness of my immune system as Lupus is an overactive immune system so i have taken CS for the 10 years and maybe one cold or flu in that time and that is when I get lazy and do not take the CS------ When in hospital last year got a very bad infection from heart surgery scars and took antibiotics interveinously for two weeks without much help until i began to drink an 8 oz bottle of ASAP per day for the last week and then it really turned around and i continued it for two weeks after leaving hospital ---- have been a great believer in the CS and ASAP so that is why i have a large position in CFTN.PK even though i question managements decisions sometimes they have a heck of a product----- I ain't blue either as i do not drink the sediment in my own high ppm production bottles as that western senator did for years and turned blue---what an idiot-----

[AgAuGal]

Good to hear from you SS. I was wondering what amount would be appropriate daily if you had no known issues. 8oz doesn't sound too bad. So you take ASAP when you travel instead of your own CS. Based on the thread Khan provided looks like the homemade CS needs to be filtered so the setiment is not ingested. Seems to me if you go to pour the CS throught a filter one would stir up the fine sediment. So much to do so little time.

Hope you and the Mrs. are well after all those hurricanes!

[koyaanisqatsi]

AgAuGal: I've been making my own about 3 yrs now with a homemade 27V system. It's made with (3) 9V batteries in a homemade wooden switch box, two alligator clips on 2' of 24ga wire, and a small plexiglass lid cover to hold the alligator clips perpendicular to the silver .999 pure Ag rods both sticking down into the water.

Here is my input on my style of making it. I am careful to stir the water often. Lately I have been using an aquarium pump with the hose 98% closed by hemostats to reduce excess bubbling. I used to use a plastic coffee stirrer instead. This water movement reduces the grungy build-up on the electrodes. I clean the two silver electrodes often with a paper towel and a green Scotch Brite pad. (Maybe 7-10 times each batch) All this seems to greatly reduce the sediment and grey-black stuff occuring in the product.

I now know when to quit producing current too. I find that if I continue much after I get the yellowish hue, the process goes faster due to increased conductivity, and once it goes above 13-15ppm with my Hanna test pen, seemingly no more silver can be put into colloid anyway, all particles will just begin to drop to the bottom. The colloid then becomes grey and colorless. So I do not over do it, judging by experience with my personal set-up. Others set-ups may shut off electronically, and that is way cool. Mine is very simple.

I NEVER FILTER IT. I let the jar sit in a dark cabinet for atleast 2 days to clarify. Then I pour 90% of it off into a second jar for internal use. I use the jar sediment only for strong external use if I wish to, as an infected wound, cut, rash or sore. Sedimentary silver works great topically, but I've just about eliminated it from my product anyway though. So no need to filter it in my experience, if you let it sit. I feel a filter MUST be bad for the solution if not neccessary, (adds chemicals, absorbing some silver out of colloid, ineffective, etc.) So why do it? (JMO)

It seems to take about 60 minutes to make a 12oz batch. I use very clean various sized old jars from the kitchen to store it.

Another tip: If I heat the distilled water in the jar in a microwave until it is maybe 190-200 degrees, I find the electrolosis action begins at once, no need for a starter solution of silver (to increase initial conductivity). Also it seems the batch just makes 'better' initially that way. After it is good and started, I let it cool, then complete the process until it is golden yellowish. I call this polishing it off. I believe I am contolling the excess conductivity by temperature this way, avoiding runaway in the hot solution.

When I feel some flu of cold coming on I get to work right away by gargling and swallowing 4oz maybe twice a day, dropping it in my nose and ears as well. I've even dropped it in my eyes a few times, but it dries them out for a while. If I am getting sick, thinking I have the flu others have, I make this a daily regimen for about 5 days and it is always gone. I use about 4-8oz a day at such times. I think if things got bad enough I might even mist inhale some... it often cures a minor sore throat in 30 minutes or so, in my experience. I guess it just allies with my pre-existing immunal system in a very effective way, that's all I can say for sure.

My regular maintainence dose is 1-2oz a day, every 2-3 days or so, after coffee and a final glass of water to flush my stomach lining, always on an empty stomach. I never take it after food as I believe the food may become undigestible by bacteria and cause an upset tummy. I also gargle once a day after flossing, and I put maybe 1oz daily on my hair/scalp, face, underarms, anywhere I am troubled by most anything.

I've nver had a recognizable case of flu during flu season since taking it 3 years. I seem to get minor symptoms, when everyone around me has flu, but my case is so minor it is less than a bad cold and sore throat. The 'flu' seems to hit me a day or two, relatively with minor intensity, and then quickly dwindles away. (5 days) And colds? No problem either. Same minimal effect for 5 days or so and then all but gone. I've given 8oz samples to friends who were coming down with ailments as husband and wife. The spouse who gets silver has minimal symptoms, while the one who did not misses days of work. But this experiment is not 'scientific', sorry.

It's terrible that we at GIM have to reseach this ourselves alone, when billions are spent to certify and advertise 'patent medicines' that have terrible side effects, and high cost, DOING NOTHING for the viral cause of the ailment.

Best to ya' AuAgGal, I bet the cookies you make are awesome golden brown. And I'm telling you -- get you some silver colloid and be glad you did. I'm sure you read my input about previous tainted vaccines, NO MORE VACCINES FOR ME. I feel that in my own state of normal good health, they will only serve to shock and weaken my established immune system -- and if there really is a KILLER FLU, I'll bet the vaccine you would be of little use anyway.

I do still drink lots of orange and grapefruit juice (not with silver for fear of chemical bonding). I also take occasional, basalmic vinegar, green tea, honey, garlic, wild herb oregano, echanacea, daily vitamins with an E and C, occasional zinc, calcium magnesium tablets crushed -- I feel this stuff helps to. But this is about colloidal silver, so excuse me folks... I felt I should say that.

Good luck to ya'.:top:

[AgAuGal]

Thanks everyone for the responses. I am encouraged now to move forward on CS. May we all have a flu free winter. :rose:

[Duncan]

Thanks everyone for the responses. I am encouraged now to move forward on CS. May we all have a flu free winter. :rose:
AgAuGal check your pvt. Msg.

[AgAuGal]

Thanks Duncan, got the msg, link. Not sure how confident I am to build my own. Although I have been telling myself I need to learn to produce something useful - perhaps this would be a start :D

[snakedancerr]

vaccines are poisons. they are deliberate poisons.

[AgAuGal]

All I can say is before I started taking the flu vacine I would get the flu real bad every year. In the last four years I think I might have felt bad (attributing to flu) for a couple of days. Personally I would rather have a strong immune system than have to rely on vaccines. They can't all be bad right - what about Polio, ect.

[SilverStreak]

Currently take about 1 oz per day of either what i make or the ASAP CS ---had a great summer out on the road until i returned to Florida island which is in very tough shape from H. Charlie house very liveable but Screen porch gone and car port is someone elses worry as it is far far away -----acreage 3 miles north of house is in very bad shape as trees mangaled and down all over---much discouragement in island residents----- believe it or not real estate is up 15% since Charlie no supply and much demand ---- even with the damage i could sell for 5 to 10 percent pre Charlie prices