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helpful_monkey
10-27-2004, 01:55 AM
http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/cover1.html

November 8, 2004 issue

Unfortunately, this election does not offer traditional conservatives an easy or natural choice and has left our editors as split as our readership. In an effort to deepen our readers’ and our own understanding of the options before us, we’ve asked several of our editors and contributors to make “the conservative case” for their favored candidate. Their pieces, plus Taki’s column closing out this issue, constitute TAC’s endorsement. —The Editors

Kerry’s the One
By Scott McConnell

There is little in John Kerry’s persona or platform that appeals to conservatives. The flip-flopper charge—the centerpiece of the Republican campaign against Kerry—seems overdone, as Kerry’s contrasting votes are the sort of baggage any senator of long service is likely to pick up. (Bob Dole could tell you all about it.) But Kerry is plainly a conventional liberal and no candidate for a future edition of Profiles in Courage. In my view, he will always deserve censure for his vote in favor of the Iraq War in 2002.

But this election is not about John Kerry. If he were to win, his dearth of charisma would likely ensure him a single term. He would face challenges from within his own party and a thwarting of his most expensive initiatives by a Republican Congress. Much of his presidency would be absorbed by trying to clean up the mess left to him in Iraq. He would be constrained by the swollen deficits and a ripe target for the next Republican nominee.

It is, instead, an election about the presidency of George W. Bush. To the surprise of virtually everyone, Bush has turned into an important president, and in many ways the most radical America has had since the 19th century. Because he is the leader of America’s conservative party, he has become the Left’s perfect foil—its dream candidate. The libertarian writer Lew Rockwell has mischievously noted parallels between Bush and Russia’s last tsar, Nicholas II: both gained office as a result of family connections, both initiated an unnecessary war that shattered their countries’ budgets. Lenin needed the calamitous reign of Nicholas II to create an opening for the Bolsheviks.

Bush has behaved like a caricature of what a right-wing president is supposed to be, and his continuation in office will discredit any sort of conservatism for generations. The launching of an invasion against a country that posed no threat to the U.S., the doling out of war profits and concessions to politically favored corporations, the financing of the war by ballooning the deficit to be passed on to the nation’s children, the ceaseless drive to cut taxes for those outside the middle class and working poor: it is as if Bush sought to resurrect every false 1960s-era left-wing cliché about predatory imperialism and turn it into administration policy. Add to this his nation-breaking immigration proposal—Bush has laid out a mad scheme to import immigrants to fill any job where the wage is so low that an American can’t be found to do it—and you have a presidency that combines imperialist Right and open-borders Left in a uniquely noxious cocktail.

During the campaign, few have paid attention to how much the Bush presidency has degraded the image of the United States in the world. Of course there has always been “anti-Americanism.” After the Second World War many European intellectuals argued for a “Third Way” between American-style capitalism and Soviet communism, and a generation later Europe’s radicals embraced every ragged “anti-imperialist” cause that came along. In South America, defiance of “the Yanqui” always draws a crowd. But Bush has somehow managed to take all these sentiments and turbo-charge them. In Europe and indeed all over the world, he has made the United States despised by people who used to be its friends, by businessmen and the middle classes, by moderate and sensible liberals. Never before have democratic foreign governments needed to demonstrate disdain for Washington to their own electorates in order to survive in office. The poll numbers are shocking. In countries like Norway, Germany, France, and Spain, Bush is liked by about seven percent of the populace. In Egypt, recipient of huge piles of American aid in the past two decades, some 98 percent have an unfavorable view of the United States. It’s the same throughout the Middle East.

Bush has accomplished this by giving the U.S. a novel foreign-policy doctrine under which it arrogates to itself the right to invade any country it wants if it feels threatened. It is an American version of the Brezhnev Doctrine, but the latter was at least confined to Eastern Europe. If the analogy seems extreme, what is an appropriate comparison when a country manufactures falsehoods about a foreign government, disseminates them widely, and invades the country on the basis of those falsehoods? It is not an action that any American president has ever taken before. It is not something that “good” countries do. It is the main reason that people all over the world who used to consider the United States a reliable and necessary bulwark of world stability now see us as a menace to their own peace and security.

These sentiments mean that as long as Bush is president, we have no real allies in the world, no friends to help us dig out from the Iraq quagmire. More tragically, they mean that if terrorists succeed in striking at the United States in another 9/11-type attack, many in the world will not only think of the American victims but also of the thousands and thousands of Iraqi civilians killed and maimed by American armed forces. The hatred Bush has generated has helped immeasurably those trying to recruit anti-American terrorists—indeed his policies are the gift to terrorism that keeps on giving, as the sons and brothers of slain Iraqis think how they may eventually take their own revenge. Only the seriously deluded could fail to see that a policy so central to America’s survival as a free country as getting hold of loose nuclear materials and controlling nuclear proliferation requires the willingness of foreign countries to provide full, 100 percent co-operation. Making yourself into the world’s most hated country is not an obvious way to secure that help.

I’ve heard people who have known George W. Bush for decades and served prominently in his father’s administration say that he could not possibly have conceived of the doctrine of pre-emptive war by himself, that he was essentially taken for a ride by people with a pre-existing agenda to overturn Saddam Hussein. Bush’s public performances plainly show him to be a man who has never read or thought much about foreign policy. So the inevitable questions are: who makes the key foreign-policy decisions in the Bush presidency, who controls the information flow to the president, how are various options are presented?

The record, from published administration memoirs and in-depth reporting, is one of an administration with a very small group of six or eight real decision-makers, who were set on war from the beginning and who took great pains to shut out arguments from professionals in the CIA and State Department and the U.S. armed forces that contradicted their rosy scenarios about easy victory. Much has been written about the neoconservative hand guiding the Bush presidency—and it is peculiar that one who was fired from the National Security Council in the Reagan administration for suspicion of passing classified material to the Israeli embassy and another who has written position papers for an Israeli Likud Party leader have become key players in the making of American foreign policy.

But neoconservatism now encompasses much more than Israel-obsessed intellectuals and policy insiders. The Bush foreign policy also surfs on deep currents within the Christian Right, some of which see unqualified support of Israel as part of a godly plan to bring about Armageddon and the future kingdom of Christ. These two strands of Jewish and Christian extremism build on one another in the Bush presidency—and President Bush has given not the slightest indication he would restrain either in a second term. With Colin Powell’s departure from the State Department looming, Bush is more than ever the “neoconian candidate.” The only way Americans will have a presidency in which neoconservatives and the Christian Armageddon set are not holding the reins of power is if Kerry is elected.

If Kerry wins, this magazine will be in opposition from Inauguration Day forward. But the most important battles will take place within the Republican Party and the conservative movement. A Bush defeat will ignite a huge soul-searching within the rank-and-file of Republicandom: a quest to find out how and where the Bush presidency went wrong. And it is then that more traditional conservatives will have an audience to argue for a conservatism informed by the lessons of history, based in prudence and a sense of continuity with the American past—and to make that case without a powerful White House pulling in the opposite direction.

George W. Bush has come to embody a politics that is antithetical to almost any kind of thoughtful conservatism. His international policies have been based on the hopelessly naïve belief that foreign peoples are eager to be liberated by American armies—a notion more grounded in Leon Trotsky’s concept of global revolution than any sort of conservative statecraft. His immigration policies—temporarily put on hold while he runs for re-election—are just as extreme. A re-elected President Bush would be committed to bringing in millions of low-wage immigrants to do jobs Americans “won’t do.” This election is all about George W. Bush, and those issues are enough to render him unworthy of any conservative support.

koyaanisqatsi
10-27-2004, 05:36 PM
It's been 13 hours since Helpful Monkey posted this little tidbit of news. No one has taken a bite to reply... here goes.

So many monkeys are reputed here :D -- Not to 'pile on' really, but it does seem GW Bush is sort of a uniter -- not a divider.

But through all this -- I wonder if the non-contender here, the Libertarians would unite such political colors as these. Yet the 'conservative freedom lovers' are off the radar as an option... seems odd, as just a personal aside of mine here.

Meanwhile, just look at the amazing effect of GW Bush -- in uniting such odd bedfellows this election.
:thrasher: :beer: :albertein

In fact I suspect that we here at GIM, supposedly 'conservative yet contrarian', are now seeing a bit of an influx of this 'new generation of contrarian' enter into our GIM general discussions... "Is there anybody out there?" - Pink Floyd

So many viewpoints are disgusted with Bush from all ends of the political spectrum -- makes one wonder at the outrage (and resultant crackdowns) that will come if he is re-elected and takes this as an 'American electoral mandate' as in 2000 -- then we will see united division for sure... tumultuous social UN-REST unlike anything since about 1969 IMO. Notice the mention to Nixon below. Add in a US economy in severe recession/depression perhaps and -- look out!

Wonder if after Bush is re-elected M&M will die in a mysterious shooting or an overdose? ...ala socialist John Lennon and anarchist Jim Morrison? "Strange days..." "Riders on the storm..." "This is the end..." The far left and the far right may unite... the worst of fears for TPTB. -- Or is it? ...When seen on a GLOBAL scale?

All colors of the 'political rainbow' seem to be uniting in opposition to the one color they see as in charge now:

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Fear and Loathing, Campaign 2004 -- This month's Rolling Stone Magazine:
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson sounds off on the "fun-hogs in the passing lane"
By DR. HUNTER S. THOMPSON

BULLETIN
KERRY WINS GONZO ENDORSMENT; DR. THOMPSON JOINS DEMOCRAT IN CALLING BUSH
"THE SYPHILLIS PRESIDENT"

"Four more years of George Bush will be like four more years of syphilis," the famed author said yesterday at a hastily called press conference near his home in Woody Creek, Colorado. "Only a fool or a sucker would vote for a dangerous loser like Bush," Dr. Thompson warned. "He hates everything we stand for, and he knows we will vote against him in November."

Thompson, long known for the eerie accuracy of his political instincts, went on to denounce Ralph Nader as "a worthless Judas Goat with no moral compass."

"I endorsed John Kerry a long time ago," he said, "and I will do everything in my power, short of roaming the streets with a meat hammer, to help him be the next President of the United States."

It was the most brutal seizure of power since Hitler burned the German Reichstag in 1933 and declared himself the new Boss of Germany. Karl Rove is no stranger to Nazi strategy, if only because it worked, for a while, and it was sure as hell fun for Hitler. But not for long. He ran out of oil, the whole world hated him, and he liked to gobble pure crystal biphetamine and stay awake for eight or nine days in a row with his maps & his bombers & his dope-addled general staff.

That was sixty-six years ago, far back in ancient history, and things are not much different today. We still love War. Hot damn! Iraq is finally Free, and just in time for the election! It is a deliberate cowardly lie. We are no more giving power back to the Iraqi people than we are about to stop killing them.

Your neighbor's grandchildren will be fighting this stupid, greed-crazed Bush-family "war" against the whole Islamic world for the rest of their lives, if John Kerry is not elected to be the new President of the United States in November.

Did you see Bush on TV, trying to debate? Jesus, he talked like a donkey with no brains at all. The tide turned early, in Coral Gables, when Bush went belly up less than halfway through his first bout with Kerry, who hammered poor George into jelly. It was pitiful. . . . I almost felt sorry for him, until I heard someone call him "Mister President," and then I felt ashamed.

If Nixon were running for president today, he would be seen as a "liberal" candidate, and he would probably win. He was a crook and a bungler, but what the hell?

Nixon was a barrel of laughs compared to this gang of thugs from the Halliburton petroleum organization who are running the White House today -- and who will be running it this time next year, if we (the once-proud, once-loved and widely respected "American people") don't rise up like wounded warriors and whack those lying petroleum pimps out of the White House on November 2nd.

The question this year is not whether President Bush is acting more and more like the head of a fascist government but if the American people want it that way. That is what this election is all about. We are down to nut-cutting time, and millions of people are angry. They want a Regime Change.

Some people say that George Bush should be run down and sacrificed to the Rat gods. But not me. No. I say it would be a lot easier to just vote the bastard out of office on November 2nd.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6562575?&rnd=1098394261180&has-player=true

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Eminem calls for regime change in a controversial new video
Oct. 25th webnews

If anything Marshall Mathers is a master of reinvention. When he first broke into the rap game he was regarded by many purists as one step up from Robert Van Winkle. But his rapid-fire skills, lyrical creativity and enigmatic personality quickly earned him the props of rap’s hardest critics, and the adoration of tens of millions of fans from the mall to the avenue.

This was a man with a story to tell.

He’s sold millions of albums, had best-selling books, even had a critically-acclaimed starring role in an autobiographical film. Along the way, he’s been accused of being everything from a wife-beater, to a sexist, to a racist, to a traitor.

Now on the eve of the most contentious American presidential election in recent history, Eminem is making another bold statement with his song “Mosh,” and its sure to be controversial new music video produced and directed by GNN’s own, Ian Inaba. The video is premiering today here on GNN.tv [see it here].

http://www.gnn.tv/content/eminem_mosh.html

This is not Eminem’s first political statement. In 2002, GNN’s Stephen Marshall directed the music video for “White America.” The second song on his last album, The Eminem Show, the rapper dealt with race, violence and a corrupt president in his typically provocative manner. The animated GNN video featured, among other images, Eminem urinating on the White House lawn in full view of a puppet president dancing on oil drums, and bloodied teenagers unzipping themselves out of bodybags [See the uncensored version here]. The media maelstrom hit hard and quick. MTV refused to play it, while local news outlets ran stories calling Eminem dangerous. CNN devoted a segment of its show Talkback Live to the complaints of a Columbine victim’s parent who tragically misinterpreted the video as glorifying the school shooters.

It’s unlikely “Mosh” will be misconstrued. This is a song with a clear message. Eminem, in his typically egotistical way, is calling for regime change.

"Come along, follow me, as I lead through the darkness.
As I provide just enough spark that we need, to proceed.
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength, come with me, and I won’t, steer you wrong.
Give your faith and your trust, as I guide us through the fog, to the light at the end of the tunnel."

At the core of the song and video is a powerful anti-war statement, deeply rooted in the struggle of America’s increasingly burdened working man (and woman) warriors.

After seeing Eminem perform live in front of the troops in Baghdad, a soldier returns home to his wife/girlfriend and children, only to be greeted by a “re-enlist” letter. The soldier appears to desert, donning Eminem’s ubiquitous black hoodie and joining the growing throngs following the rapper on some ominous, as yet unspoken, mission.

In another scene, a young Latina is hit with an eviction notice. In the background, Bush’s State of the Union plays on the television, announcing tax cuts for the rich.

She, too, joins Eminem’s army.

Bin Laden is depicted as a political tool, broadcasting his communiques from a sound stage. When the faux cave wall falls, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld are revealed.

The video is a culmination of Eminem’s political transformation, and a sign of the times. Scores of previously apolitical or non-partisan big-time artists, from Bruce Springsteen to P. Diddy, have decided that the stakes are just too high in this election to sit this one out.

Eminem closes the video with a plea to the masses, not to revolt, which the menacing tone of the video could imply, but to take to the polls.

"Let us set aside our differences and assemble our own army to disarm this weapon of mass destruction that we call our president for the present, and march for the future of our next generation to speak and be heard.

Mr. President, Mr. Senator, do you guys hear us?"
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:banghead:............:Zzzz:...................... ......:bash:

Libertarian_Guard
10-27-2004, 09:42 PM
Scott McConnell is a weak and pathetic man. He states “If Kerry wins, this magazine will be in opposition from Inauguration Day forward”. He is only interested in perpetuating the two party system. If he were his own man and not afraid of a backlash from his readers, he would recommend a candidate from outside the elitist parties. But like most everyone else, Scott knows which way the wind is blowing and can’t bring himself to swim against the current.

Let’s see, he understands the Neocon’s agenda better than most and comes real close to tying it together with Zionism but he picks his words very, very carefully. I guess we’re all sellouts too varying degrees. Step on too many toes and you’re on the outside looking in, wishing you had not ordained yourself as a minister of truth.

On the other hand ( and there’s always another hand ) Scott’s editorial is a prime example of the saying “never try to teach a pig to sing, it’s a waste of your time and it annoys the pig”. All but the most brain-dead of his readership knows there’s nothing conservative about Bush. But how far can he or should he push the issue?

koyaanisqatsi
10-28-2004, 12:23 AM
Scott McConnell is a weak and pathetic man. He states “If Kerry wins, this magazine will be in opposition from Inauguration Day forward”. He is only interested in perpetuating the two party system......

But how far can he or should he push the issue?
I didn't mean to sidetrack this thread -- only to stimulate it with a side angle. I'm glad that after so many quick hits, someone spoke up at last to offer me some feedback. Back to point, There IS great meaning in that the conservative group has endorsed Kerry.

And I did not intend to take this into a side issue of, ‘why no Libertarian mentions?’ And also an aside, 'the 60's are coming back fast.’

LG, I assume that "Scott McConnell" is the editor in chief of Rolling Stone… I have also since noted that even with the many options in the multiple choice poll below, the Libertarians are not anywhere to be mentioned. (as lumped into undetermined ‘other’) Libs do seem to me to be a sort of potential bridge, to avoid such divide, and yet another possible direction to steer. By omission, all options before us are what many might call various faces of the powers that now frame the ’debate’. (TPTNFTD?) These are the Rolling Stone Mag's youth vote’s alternative ‘sensible options’, I guess:
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The RS Poll
Complete survey results on how you will vote and who you trust

5. Of the following candidates, who would you most like to see as president?
George Bush 10.1%
Dick Cheney 0.7%
John Kerry 19.2%
John Edwards 3.2%
Howard Dean 6.8%
John McCain 10.4%
Hillary Clinton 12.9%
Bill Clinton 24.8%
Al Gore 2.7%
Rudolph Guiliani 7.6%
Arnold Schwarzenegger 1.7%

14. Regardless of how you are registered, which party do you feel best represents your views on issues?
Democrat 53.3%
Republican 14.9%
Independent 13.0%
Green 8.1%
Reform 0.3%
Other 2.6%
No preference 7.8%

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6562109?pageid=rs.Politics&pageregion=single6

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Meanwhile to get back on track, I’ll borrow these comments from another, a more political boring ‘conservative’ (I suspect), discussion board than us, back in December, 2003, just to explain some of the similarities of Nixon’s term to today -- Nixon was not a 'conservative', many feel. Neither is GW, they say:

"I think there is one fundamental difference to point out between Bush and Nixon (besides many obvious ones). Nixon was politician, he knew politics, played politics, knew government, and could get smart reforms passed (which actually worked to the benefit of many people, such as American Indians), whereas Bush is a businessman (and a poor one at that), and seems not to understand good social policy (the energy bill for pete's sake) or even care as long as he is doing right by the wealthy (hey the dow is rising, everything must be fine). The best ideas he can come up with are new and old ways of transfering taxpayers money to wealthy people (starting wars, not closing tax loopholes for war contractors, starting back up nuclear program, adding prescription drug coverage, opening anything he can to government subsidized extraction, sticking public with environmental cleanup whenever possible)."

"The old left/right divisions are crumbling. There is now only pro-corporation vs. pro-democracy. We haven't come up with pithy names for them yet, but "left" and "right" are dead. Bush Jr. is clearly a pro-corporation radical. Bush I, Clinton, and our President Gore were pro-corporation moderates. (Michael Moore calls Clinton "the best Republican President we've ever had", and he's right). Kucinich's and the Libertarians' are the only real pro-democracy presidential platforms I've seen so far."

"The exciting part of this is watching the far-"left" Greens and far-"right" Freep'ers find common cause in opposing NAFTA, the WTO, the WIPO, the World Bank, the WEF, the USA-PATRIOT Act, the FTAA-- in short, if pro-democracy forces put our old "left" vs "right" differences aside, we can possibly make some gains against the global corprorate-droids and maybe even forge a new populist majority. In fact, it's the only way it'll happen."

http://markschmitt.typepad.com/decembrist/2003/12/what_if_bush_is.html

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And still more assumed to be ‘sensible’ endorsements…

10 Nobel economists endorse Kerry
Experts criticize Bush's 'reckless and extreme course'
Aug. 25, 2004

They cited “poorly designed” tax cuts that instead of creating jobs have turned budget surpluses into enormous budget deficits, a “fiscal irresponsibility threatens the long-term economic security and prosperity of our nation.”

The endorsement, in the form of an open letter American voters, was signed by:
George Akerlof and Daniel McFadden, of the University of California at Berkeley,
Kenneth Arrow and William Sharpe, of Stanford University,
Daniel Kahneman, of Princeton University,
Lawrence Klein, of the University of Pennsylvania,
Douglass North, of Washington University,
Paul Samuelson and Robert Solow, of MIT and Joseph Stiglitz of Columbia University.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5818277

Generals endorse Kerry
By Patrick O'Connor

Continuing to tout Sen. John Kerry’s military bona fides, his campaign announced yesterday that 12 retired admirals and generals, including his former rival for the Democratic nomination, Wesley Clark, would endorse Kerry during a video tribute at the convention.

Citing Kerry’s service in Vietnam, Clark hailed Kerry’s leadership and service, and commended Kerry for speaking out against Vietnam after he returned.

“He’s been there,” Clark told a news conference. “He lives it. He knows it.”
Clark said Kerry’s first-hand experience with Vietnam would make him a more deliberate and thoughtful commander-in-chief.

A retired Navy admiral who announced his support of Kerry at the same press conference said he is doing so because he trusts the Massachusetts senator more with the life of his son, “who commands a patrol boat much like the one Kerry piloted in Vietnam.”

“My son is a sailor, my son-in-law is a sailor and my nephew is a sailor,” said Vice Adm. Lee Gunn (U.S. Navy, retired). “I want them, and all of America’s sons and daughters in uniform, to have a new, wiser, better and courageous commander in chief.”
http://www.thehill.com/news/072904/generals.aspx

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Even conservative churches are playing defense... or is that offense…?

August 17, 2004
Conservatives to Monitor Suspected Liberals in Church
In the Free Lance-Star of Fredericksburg, Va:

A conservative religious organization is keeping an eye on local churches, threatening to report any that endorse or disparage political candidates in violation of their nonprofit status.

The Big Brother Church Watch, a group sponsored by the Religious Freedom Action Coalition, is sending volunteers throughout Virginia to sit in church pews and take notes.

If there is any indication of an endorsement of, or objection to, a specific political candidate, the group has said it will report that church to the Internal Revenue Service, which could revoke their tax-exempt status.

The group is targeting so-called "liberal churches" such as the Metropolitan Community churches, Unitarian Universalist fellowships and African Methodist Episcopal churches.

"You tend to hear more about the conservatives, but no one is checking the liberal churches," said Peggy Birchfield, executive director of the Religious Freedom Action Coalition in Washington.
http://www.the-hamster.com/mtype/archives/2004/08/conservatives
:note: :afraid:

"Strange days have found us…"
-- Jim Morrison, 1969 The Doors

"Every song is political. Even a lullaby is political... to a baby."
--Pete Seeger

gpond
10-28-2004, 12:31 AM
LG, I assume that "Scott McConnell" is the editor in chief of Rolling Stone…
Scott McConnell is the executive editor of The American Conservative.A Ph.D.in history from Columbia University, he was formerly the editorial page editor of the New York Post and has been a columnist for Antiwar.com and New York Press.His work has been published in Commentary, Fortune, National Review, The New Republic, and many other publications.

http://www.amconmag.com/aboutus.html

http://www.amconmag.com/images/mcconnell.jpg

koyaanisqatsi
10-28-2004, 12:42 AM
Boy, Gpond, always let be understood that the Koy often does overlook the obvious, and make statements based upon erroneous conclusions. I may do it far more often than I'll ever come to know.

I made an 'Ass-umption', and I am humbled duly.... But not enough to hurt me for more than the time it takes to smile... :wink: just joking you, thanks for the clarification. I was just someplace else I guess... got to turn that old Doors music volume down... :note:

gpond
10-28-2004, 12:46 AM
Koy, my friend,

I'm right there with you. The moment I achieve perfection I will be right there to let you know, without delay! Trust me.

Regards,
gpond :wink: