Poll: Best United States president ever!

[eyeofliberty]

Who do you think was our best U.S. president? I've tried to include here what I thought would be the most likely choices of GIMers, and a couple thrown in there to make it interesting, such as James Garfield (shortest term, least amount of damage done!), and William Taft (I've heard Ron Paul compare himself to Taft).

If your favorite is not on the list, tell us about him and why.

It seems to me that the presidents that are remembered the most, and are most loved, are the ones that did the most damage (Lincoln, FDR, Teddy Roosevelt). The ones that are remembered least, did the least amount of damage (Cleveland, Coolidge).

[dissident]

jefferson was probably was of the most intelligent presidents ever, for a number of reasons, both intellectual and spiritual.

[Goldhedge]

Andrew Jackson...he saw through the banker's at every turn.

[Horn]

Andrew Jackson...he saw through the banker's at every turn.

Oh, you always gotta be a contrarian.:D

[eyeofliberty]

Andrew Jackson...he saw through the banker's at every turn.

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." ~Thomas Jefferson

TJ was on to the bankers, too.

[Infidel]

Rutherford B. Hayes is the best president to have ever been elected in this country

One thing I can not understand is this: why, for the love of all that is dear to them, do the politicians have to keep screwing with the system?

Those that vote NO on everything deserve my support

I vote Ron Paul

[GoldWampum]

Hmmm, no mention of Lyndon or Gerald. It's really a shame ol' Spiro never got his due.:D

[chewy]

Geez, eight votes for the 33rd degree Mason, Andrew Johnson? :shocked_ma:

[chewy]

Rutherford B. Hayes is the best president to have ever been elected in this country
..............


You're JOKING right???

Hayes vetoed the Bland-Allison Act of 1878. Hayes was ANTI-SILVER and a poodle for New York banxters.


"............ soon after the Crime of 1873 in which Congress demonetized silver, (many members didn't even realize the clause was in the legislation), there was fantastic agitation --- understandably so --- to restore silver's status. President Rutherford Hayes vetoed this legislation, but Congress beseiged by public outrage, overrode the veto. Afterwards Hayes approved of the Treasury dragging it's feet to comply with the new law. The New York banks boycotted the new Morgan design silver dollars.........."


And you think this a88-clown was the best US President? The guy who wanted to de-monetize silver at the behest of his paymasters the banks, and tried to stop Morgan silver dollars going into production?

[chewy]

Since there were only sixteen US Presidents there aren't many choices.

Jefferson or Jackson, I'd say. Also, 'Old Kinderhook' Martin van Buren did a good job containing the banxters.

[Ardent Listener]

Quotes

ØAs President John Adams said, "All the perplexities, confusion and distress (Ed. note - crime, poverty, substance abuse, family disintegration, government immorality and dishonesty, etc.) in America arise, not from defects in the Constitution or confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation." This is because nearly every part of our lives revolves around money in some way. If we clear up the money problem, all sorts of seemingly unrelated problems will simply vanish!
Consider what these rather well-known men have said in the past:

ØI believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the Government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs. - President Thomas Jefferson.

ØThe youth who can solve the money question will do more for the world than all the professional soldiers of history. - Henry Ford Sr.

ØWhoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce. - President James A. Garfield

ØIf the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. - President Thomas Jefferson

ØI wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution. I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government to the genuine principles of its constitution; I mean an additional article, taking from the federal government the power to borrow money. - Thomas Jefferson

ØIf (As the supreme court had recently inferred) Congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given to them to be used by themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations. - President Andrew Jackson

ØFrom the testimony of Marriner Eccles, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, before the House Banking and Currency Committee, Sept. 30, 1941:
Congressman Patman: "Mr. Eccles, how did you get the money to buy those two billions of government securities?"
Eccles: "We created it."
Patman: "Out of what?"
Eccles: "Out of the right to issue credit money." (i.e.Out of the right to create it. Do you see the insanity of it all? You and I must work hard for every dollar of ?? that we earn, while the banksters havethe legal right to create money! RWS).
ØThe modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. - Major L.B.Angus

ØBanking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin.....Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and, with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again.....Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear (he was said to be the second richest man in Britain) and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in.....But, if you want to continue to be the slave of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers continue to create money and control credit. - Sir Josiah Stamp, President of the Bank of England

ØI had never thought the Federal Reserve Bank System would prove such a failure. The country is in a state of irretrievable bankruptcy. - Senator Carter Glass, June 7, 1938

ØThe Federal Reserve (privately owned banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. - Senator Louis T. McFadden (for 22 years Chairman of the U.S. Banking and currency Commission)

ØIf two parties, instead of being a bank and an individual, were an individual and an individual, they could not inflate the circulating medium by a loan transaction, for the simple reason that the lender could not lend what he didn't have, as banks can do.....Only commercial banks and trust companies can lend money that they manufacture by lending it. - Professor Irving Fisher, YaleUniversity, in his book "100% Money"

ØThe people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own government. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power. - Abraham Linco
ØEvery effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its power but the truth is, the Fed has usurped the government. It controls everything here and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will. - Congressman Louis T. McFadden, 1933, Chairman, Banking and Currency Committee

ØThe bold effort the present bank had made to control government (Second National Bank of the U.S.), the distress it has wantonly produced...are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it.
President Andrew Jackson

ØThe entire banking movement, at all crucial stages, was centralized in the hands of a few men who for years were linked, ideologically and personally, with one another. - Gabriel Kolko

ØPermit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws. - Mayer Anselm Rothschild of the Rothschild banking family.

ØIf all the bank loans were paid up, no one would have a bank depo­sit, and there would not be a dol­lar of cur­rency or coin in cir­cu­la­tion. This is a stag­ger­ing thought. We are com­pletely depen­dent on the com­mer­cial banks for our money. Someone has to bor­row every dol­lar we have in cir­cu­la­tion, cash or cre­dit. If the banks create ample syn­the­tic money, we are pro­s­per­ous; if not, we starve. We are abso­lutely with­out a per­manent mone­tary sys­tem. When one gets a com­plete grasp upon the pic­ture, the tra­gic absur­dity of our hope­less posi­tion is almost in­cred­ible - but there it is. It (the bank­ing prob­lem) is the most im­por­tant sub­ject in­tel­li­gent per­sons can in­ves­ti­gate and reflect upon. It is so im­por­tant that our pre­sent civi­li­za­tion may col­lapse un­less it is widely under­stood and the defects reme­died very soon. - Robert H. Hem­phill, Cre­dit Mana­ger of the Federal Reserve Bank of At­lanta

[tomexxtra]

I wanted to vote for James Monroe.
During his presidency we had the era of good feeling.
No problems and the country was prosperous.
The Monroe Doctrine was enforced.
You don't come into my backyard and I won't go into yours.
If we had this today we wouldn't be in such a bad mess.
With Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, China, Mexican boarder etc........

[californiajeff]

Thomas Jefferson no doubt!

[Large Sarge]

Thomas Jefferson was probably the wisest and most principled founding father, James Madison gets honorable mention, as does Andrew Jackson

Jefferson was a deep thinker.

I guess I should add one item, After the revolutionary war, Washington was essentially handed all the powers of state, making him a defacto king.

He declined them, allowing our country to be born

that goes along with his story about chopping down the cherry tree

[Ulysses]

Yeah, no LBJ, no Clinton...
(kidding)

No surprise, I voted Thomas Jefferson.

[Murphy's Law]

I wanted to vote for James Monroe.
During his presidency we had the era of good feeling.
No problems and the country was prosperous.
The Monroe Doctrine was enforced.
You don't come into my backyard and I won't go into yours.
If we had this today we wouldn't be in such a bad mess.
With Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, China, Mexican boarder etc........

The Monroe Doctrine was more like hands off the new world, it's mine!:rant:
When will they ever learn?:banghead:

[Dymaxion42]

I have no opinion as to the best president, but I do think that Jefferson is overrated. I get the impression that he was a pretty serious weasel during the Washington and Adams administrations.

Dymaxion

[GoldWampum]

Pat Paulson

[momopanda]

William Henry Harrison.
Old Tippecanoe served just 30 days as president (dying of pneumonia cause he didn't have the sense to wear a coat in the cold pouring rain during his 2 hour inauguration speech), and thus presumably had the least chance to F*** everything up. We need more like him.:D

[jrog100]

I didn't see George Bush on there so I had to vote for TJ.

[mozkill]

Every single president we have had has let the federal reserve steal from the people. How can you consider even one of them the greatest president? George Washington was the first to break the consitution in regards to printing money, and its been a downhill train ever since. They are all bastards of our motherland.

[eyeofliberty]

Every single president we have had has let the federal reserve steal from the people. How can you consider even one of them the greatest president? George Washington was the first to break the consitution in regards to printing money, and its been a downhill train ever since. They are all bastards of our motherland.

Uh, the Federal Reserve didn't come along until 1913, during Woodrow Wilson's administration. But truly, all presidents have at least one thing or another for which they could be called to the carpet for, even Jefferson. Heck, every president in the last 100 years could have been impeached for SOMETHING blatantly unconstitutional.

[glmknife]

No TREASONEERS on this poll

Please leave the MORON off as he is not the president, never was, never could be.

Someday soon Ossamas cave will be found in Texas

[mozkill]

Uh, the Federal Reserve didn't come along until 1913

i never said anything about the federal reserve. i said every president since washington, in regards to printing money, has broke the constitution... and therefore there were no great presidents.

[eyeofliberty]

Every single president we have had has let the federal reserve steal from the people. How can you consider even one of them the greatest president? George Washington was the first to break the consitution in regards to printing money, and its been a downhill train ever since. They are all bastards of our motherland.

i never said anything about the federal reserve. i said every president since washington, in regards to printing money, has broke the constitution... and therefore there were no great presidents.

Huh?

As for great presidents or not, I would tend to agree with you. Each one, as president, did something unconstitutional. They were better MEN, than they were PRESIDENTS. I have a lot of respect for Jefferson, very little of which has to do with him as a president, despite this being my poll. To me, Jefferson's presidency is one of the least remarkable things about him.