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gunner
08-07-2007, 10:57 PM
Anyone have any thoughts on this? Got the heads up from a good friend that the Dinar was a good way to play the currency markets. Considering the embassy that's being built and all the money being pumped into Iraq, this may be a decent time to invest.

http://betoniraq.com/

Astounding currency devaluation.
After years of trade sanctions, and rampant counterfeiting, the Iraqi Dinar has plummeted from its pre-Gulf War value of over USD$3, to mere fractions of one US cent. What was once the equivalent of more than $82,500, can now be purchased for less than $50. Can Iraq's economy achieve, in a free market, what it once achieved under a brutal dictatorship? We don't know yet. But we know she is not alone in her effort to do so.
Might a free Iraq thrive?
Above and beyond the vast oil reserve, agriculture, and highly educated population, there is now liberty in Iraq. We believe that where liberty is sown, prosperity blooms.

We understand that liberty is always challenged. It's challenged regularly in our own country. Why should a fledgling democracy, on the heels of a 30 year dictatorial rule, be immune?


We simply trust that the seed of freedom, implanted back in 2003 with the fall of Saddam's regime, has germinated in the hearts of the majority of the Iraqi people. We see this as a wondrous thing, with tremendous possibilities.

The free world is behind Iraq.
Thirty-eight nations have reduced the debts owed to them in an effort to bolster Iraq's economy. Billions of dollars are being invested by international firms to create Iraqi markets. 18 billion dollars has been given to Iraq by the US State Department to rebuild the nation's infrastructure. They are receiving aid monetarily, militarily or both, from most of the countries in the free world.

What if?
Let's say you decide to err on the side of Iraqi prosperity. You take advantage of the 100 year low value and buy 2 million Iraqi dinars. You look them over, admire them, and show them to some friends as a curiosity. The security features (javascript:popUp('security.htm')) alone will have them enthralled. Then you stick them in a closet and go about your life.

A few years from now, you see a program on A&E portraying the lives of average Iraqis. You see people drinking locally bottled, genuine Pepsi Cola; not the ersatz they'd been consuming for years. They are buying their cars from Baghdad Mitsubishi.

Their highly educated engineers, no longer waiting tables or driving cabs, are engineering. The world's 2nd largest oil reserve is producing more efficiently. Higher quality crops are being harvested, in larger numbers.

You discover that things are going well enough in Iraq to have raised the value of the the dinar to one US cent.

Your $2100 purchase would now be valued at $20,000.

This is no pipe dream.
This is a genuine possibility, with remarkable ramifications. Organizations like Operation Iraqi Children (http://www.operationiraqichildren.org/) working with the US military, are helping to shape a new generation of freedom loving Iraqis. It won't be long before these kids take their place in society. They will recall their childhood as a time when powerful Americans released them from the grip of a bloodthirsty madman, and gave them the tools and support to build a peaceful, prosperous society to call their own. The incredible successes of the last two Iraqi elections seem to clearly suggest that they want it, and will run with it.

Furthermore, the two pre-eminent causes of the collapse of the Saddam dinar have been removed from the equation. Trade sanctions have been lifted, and the currency's high tech security features have been thwarting counterfeiters.

So, who are we?
We are freedom loving Americans that believe a liberated, resource rich Iraq can become a force in the world economy. We believe the efforts of the coalition are noble, and will be effective.

We are not professional financial consultants or Wall Street gurus. We can't predict the future or offer any investment advice.

But we will bet on Iraq.http://betoniraq.com/images/arr.jpg (http://betoniraq.com/pricing.html)

Masonic Plot
08-07-2007, 11:05 PM
I am not a fan of the war so I really didnt want to invest my money in them, however, my brother bought everyone in the family 4 million dinars each several years back. They have already doubled in price since that time. It is possible they could reap big rewards, but it is also equally possible that the country could fall part into various civil war factions and the dinar becomes history. My brother's logic was "the US has way too much invested to let the country fail, somehow or another they will stablize it and the dinar will increase in value." I cant disagree with him. Currently the dinar is not being traded or recognized internationally, but you can buy them at most banks and on e bay and many sites offer them and I would imagine at some point they will be traded and recognized, for a small investment you can get a lot of them, so its low risk, high reward, hard to go wrong I think. He got ours for like 200 US DOLLARS for ONE MILLION Dinars, its now considerably more, but still very reasonable.

You can see here a recent history of how its value has increased:


TODAY:
1240 NID = 1 USD


PREVIOUS RATES
08/07/07 - 1240
08/06/07 - 1241
08/02/07 - 1242
08/01/07 - 1243
07/31/07 - 1244
07/30/07 - 1245
07/26/07 - 1246
07/25/07 - 1248
07/09/07 - 1249
06/28/07 - 1250
06/26/07 - 1251
06/25/07 - 1252
06/24/07 - 1253
06/21/07 - 1254
06/20/07 - 1255
06/19/07 - 1256
06/18/07 - 1257
06/13/07 - 1258
06/12/07 - 1259
06/05/07 - 1260
06/04/07 - 1259
05/30/07 - 1260
05/23/07 - 1259
05/16/07 - 1260
05/14/07 - 1261
05/09/07 - 1263
05/08/07 - 1264
05/07/07 - 1265
05/03/07 - 1267
05/02/07 - 1268
04/30/07 - 1269
04/23/07 - 1270
04/02/07 - 1272
03/28/07 - 1273
03/27/07 - 1274
03/26/07 - 1276
03/14/07 - 1277
03/12/07 - 1278
03/08/07 - 1279
03/07/07 - 1278
03/05/07 - 1279
02/28/07 - 1280
02/27/07 - 1281
02/21/07 - 1282
02/20/07 - 1283
02/15/07 - 1285
02/14/07 - 1286
02/06/07 - 1288
02/05/07 - 1289
02/01/07 - 1290
01/24/07 - 1292
01/22/07 - 1295
01/21/07 - 1298
01/18/07 - 1300
01/17/07 - 1305
01/16/07 - 1308
01/15/07 - 1310
01/10/07 - 1315
01/09/07 - 1318
01/08/07 - 1320
12/27/06 - 1325
12/26/06 - 1338
12/25/06 - 1345
12/24/06 - 1352
12/21/06 - 1360
12/20/06 - 1373
12/19/06 - 1380
12/18/06 - 1388
12/17/06 - 1400
12/14/06 - 1411
12/13/06 - 1414
12/12/06 - 1416
12/11/06 - 1419
12/10/06 - 1422
12/07/06 - 1424
12/06/06 - 1426
12/05/06 - 1429
12/04/06 - 1430
12/03/06 - 1433
11/29/06 - 1435
11/28/06 - 1437
11/27/06 - 1439
11/23/06 - 1441
11/22/06 - 1444
11/21/06 - 1446
11/20/06 - 1449
11/19/06 - 1452
11/16/06 - 1454
11/15/06 - 1455
11/14/06 - 1460
11/09/06 - 1465
11/08/06 - 1466
11/07/06 - 1468
10/29/06 - 1470
10/22/06 - 1473

A good forum and site to track the dinar is here:


http://www.investorsiraq.com/index.php?


If it ever gets to like ONE PENNY or 5 cents or a DIME, id have a nice amount of money with 4 million of them. If ever gets DOLLAR TO DOLLAR then Im filthy rich.

KASHMAN02
08-07-2007, 11:07 PM
I am not a fan of the war so I really didnt want to invest my money in them, however, my brother bought everyone in the family 4 million dinars each several years back. They have already doubled in price since that time. It is possible they could reap big rewards, but it is also equally possible that the country could fall part into various civil war factions and the dinar becomes history. My brother's logic was "the US has way too much invested to let the country fail, somehow or another they will stablize it and the dinar will increase in value." I cant disagree with him. Currently the dinar is not being traded or recognized internationally, but you can buy them at most banks and on e bay and many sites offer them and I would imagine at some point they will be traded and recognized, for a small investment you can get a lot of them, so its low risk, high reward, hard to go wrong I think. He got ours for like 200 US DOLLARS for ONE MILLION Dinars, its now considerably more, but still very reasonable.

They are also selling Dinars on Ebay.

momopanda
08-07-2007, 11:14 PM
I am not a fan of the war so I really didnt want to invest my money in them, however, my brother bought everyone in the family 4 million dinars each several years back. They have already doubled in price since that time. It is possible they could reap big rewards, but it is also equally possible that the country could fall part into various civil war factions and the dinar becomes history. My brother's logic was "the US has way too much invested to let the country fail, somehow or another they will stablize it and the dinar will increase in value." I cant disagree with him. Currently the dinar is not being traded or recognized internationally, but you can buy them at most banks and on e bay and many sites offer them and I would imagine at some point they will be traded and recognized, for a small investment you can get a lot of them, so its low risk, high reward, hard to go wrong I think. He got ours for like 200 US DOLLARS for ONE MILLION Dinars, its now considerably more, but still very reasonable.

A friend and I did the same thing in a small way about 2 years ago , almost sure it was a scam , but, though I haven't tracked it too carefully , it hasn't worked out too badly so far. they're pretty too (at least inasfar as fiat paper can be anyhow)

DogFarm
08-07-2007, 11:43 PM
I like the way my platinum coins look better.

As for betting on Iraq: my guess it gets carved up into 2 or 3 countries in a decade; each with its own currency and they trade oil for gold or euros or arms.

Or maybe it gets glassed over before then. Eitherway, I'm not buying the "investment" aspect of the dinar.

elroy
08-08-2007, 01:44 AM
You notice the article in the top post is published by www.betoniraq.com and they would love to sell you the Iraqi dinars at a huge markup.

Current exchange rate is 1 US Dollar = 1,260.83 Iraqi Dinar
1 Iraqi Dinar (IQD) = 0.0007931 US Dollar (USD)

At their price for 1 million dinar [$1060], they are making about $267

25% percent markup, what a gig!

TroyZ
08-08-2007, 08:07 AM
If I were to invest in dinars, I'd rather invest into these dinars (http://www.islamicmint.com/islamicdinar/index.html).

paynes1
08-08-2007, 06:32 PM
They are also selling Dinars on Ebay.


Aviod the dealers and buy your dinars thru Chase Bank. Chase has been selling them for over 6 months now.

paynes1
08-08-2007, 06:35 PM
I am not a fan of the war so I really didnt want to invest my money in them, however, my brother bought everyone in the family 4 million dinars each several years back. They have already doubled in price since that time. It is possible they could reap big rewards, but it is also equally possible that the country could fall part into various civil war factions and the dinar becomes history. My brother's logic was "the US has way too much invested to let the country fail, somehow or another they will stablize it and the dinar will increase in value." I cant disagree with him. Currently the dinar is not being traded or recognized internationally, but you can buy them at most banks and on e bay and many sites offer them and I would imagine at some point they will be traded and recognized, for a small investment you can get a lot of them, so its low risk, high reward, hard to go wrong I think. He got ours for like 200 US DOLLARS for ONE MILLION Dinars, its now considerably more, but still very reasonable.

You can see here a recent history of how its value has increased:


TODAY:
1240 NID = 1 USD


PREVIOUS RATES
08/07/07 - 1240
08/06/07 - 1241
08/02/07 - 1242
08/01/07 - 1243
07/31/07 - 1244
07/30/07 - 1245
07/26/07 - 1246
07/25/07 - 1248
07/09/07 - 1249
06/28/07 - 1250
06/26/07 - 1251
06/25/07 - 1252
06/24/07 - 1253
06/21/07 - 1254
06/20/07 - 1255
06/19/07 - 1256
06/18/07 - 1257
06/13/07 - 1258
06/12/07 - 1259
06/05/07 - 1260
06/04/07 - 1259
05/30/07 - 1260
05/23/07 - 1259
05/16/07 - 1260
05/14/07 - 1261
05/09/07 - 1263
05/08/07 - 1264
05/07/07 - 1265
05/03/07 - 1267
05/02/07 - 1268
04/30/07 - 1269
04/23/07 - 1270
04/02/07 - 1272
03/28/07 - 1273
03/27/07 - 1274
03/26/07 - 1276
03/14/07 - 1277
03/12/07 - 1278
03/08/07 - 1279
03/07/07 - 1278
03/05/07 - 1279
02/28/07 - 1280
02/27/07 - 1281
02/21/07 - 1282
02/20/07 - 1283
02/15/07 - 1285
02/14/07 - 1286
02/06/07 - 1288
02/05/07 - 1289
02/01/07 - 1290
01/24/07 - 1292
01/22/07 - 1295
01/21/07 - 1298
01/18/07 - 1300
01/17/07 - 1305
01/16/07 - 1308
01/15/07 - 1310
01/10/07 - 1315
01/09/07 - 1318
01/08/07 - 1320
12/27/06 - 1325
12/26/06 - 1338
12/25/06 - 1345
12/24/06 - 1352
12/21/06 - 1360
12/20/06 - 1373
12/19/06 - 1380
12/18/06 - 1388
12/17/06 - 1400
12/14/06 - 1411
12/13/06 - 1414
12/12/06 - 1416
12/11/06 - 1419
12/10/06 - 1422
12/07/06 - 1424
12/06/06 - 1426
12/05/06 - 1429
12/04/06 - 1430
12/03/06 - 1433
11/29/06 - 1435
11/28/06 - 1437
11/27/06 - 1439
11/23/06 - 1441
11/22/06 - 1444
11/21/06 - 1446
11/20/06 - 1449
11/19/06 - 1452
11/16/06 - 1454
11/15/06 - 1455
11/14/06 - 1460
11/09/06 - 1465
11/08/06 - 1466
11/07/06 - 1468
10/29/06 - 1470
10/22/06 - 1473

A good forum and site to track the dinar is here:


http://www.investorsiraq.com/index.php?


If it ever gets to like ONE PENNY or 5 cents or a DIME, id have a nice amount of money with 4 million of them. If ever gets DOLLAR TO DOLLAR then Im filthy rich.

This is a very good site to track the dinar as I am a member of both here and there.

DogFarm
08-08-2007, 07:02 PM
If I were to invest in dinars, I'd rather invest into these dinars (http://www.islamicmint.com/islamicdinar/index.html).

Oh yeah. Now you are talking. :applause_

They don't say in "Allah [praise be his name!] we trust" or anything do they?

Coltwind
08-09-2007, 09:16 AM
The Iraqi Dinar valves that have been posted are bogus values what ever the source. They have not doubled in value. Any web link that has an interest in selling them are providing you with a bogus numbers. You can't cash them in any money exchange around the world. No bank will buy them from you at posted values. I believe you can deposit Iraqi dinar in a Gulf bank in the middle east. What good is it going to do you there. leave the Iraqi Dinar alone and don't waste your time waiting and hoping for nothing.:thumpdown