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agdufus
12-27-2004, 02:21 PM
I bought the SILVERGEN, after using the 27 volt battery method, and used the CS in my nebulizer for 4 days. By the second day my inhaler use was cut in half and early morning nature calls no longer require ALBUTERAL to get back to sleep. The price of one ADVAIRE perscription will buy the nebulizer.
NEBULIZERS are built to use thru the mouth but try inhaling thru the nose also.
I would guess that the common vaporizer could also be used.
If you believe CHEMTRAILS are affecting your health, this might reverse the damage.

gpond
01-26-2005, 09:02 PM
I assume you are really being serious, and I will be also.

I have a nebulizer, although I do not need to use it lately. Do you simply pour the CS in where the medicine should go? Silly question, I guess. I am diagnosed with some asthma to go with my other breathing problems from long-term smoking damage. Does the CS foul the nebulizer in any way you can see? Do you know the PPM (parts per million?) of the CS that you are using? You do find a residue left in the "medicine cup" when you are finished, right? But you don't see any residue fouling the nebulizer in other places? Sounds like a very interesting idea, but don't want to ruin my nebulizer. For example one of my humidifiers shows a kind of yellow residue after 6-9 months of CS being added. It should easily clean off. I just wouldn't want to ruin a nebulizer that I might need later.

Best wishes for the improvement of your breathing! I am better now, but have been in bad shape as you are now describing. I know what it is like to not be able to catch your breath! Wishing you constant improvement!

mayhem
05-29-2006, 01:31 PM
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I assume you are really being serious, and I will be also.

I have a nebulizer, although I do not need to use it lately. Do you simply pour the CS in where the medicine should go? Silly question, I guess. I am diagnosed with some asthma to go with my other breathing problems from long-term smoking damage. Does the CS foul the nebulizer in any way you can see? Do you know the PPM (parts per million?) of the CS that you are using? You do find a residue left in the "medicine cup" when you are finished, right? But you don't see any residue fouling the nebulizer in other places? Sounds like a very interesting idea, but don't want to ruin my nebulizer. For example one of my humidifiers shows a kind of yellow residue after 6-9 months of CS being added. It should easily clean off. I just wouldn't want to ruin a nebulizer that I might need later.

Best wishes for the improvement of your breathing! I am better now, but have been in bad shape as you are now describing. I know what it is like to not be able to catch your breath! Wishing you constant improvement!

I bought a hand held nebulizer on ebay for 20 FRN's last nite just to give this idea a shot. Heck if it fouls up to bad to quick I'm only out 20 frn's.

For years I did insurance damage repair before the whole "Mold is bad for you" thing. So the lungs may still have some residual spores hanging around. Most MD's have no clue on how to clear out the lungs except with super anti body drugs that do as much damage as good.

So I guess the question is, has anyone done this? And if so what were the negatives?

m

bjgnome
05-29-2006, 02:02 PM
Also for asthma consider flax oil

Eating vegetables

Vitamin C


Most of all... learn how to breathe properly. Asthma is a stress related illness. Proper breathing allows you to get control of the autonomic nervous system, which is involved in stress related illness.

Proper breathing is effective for the treatment of: anxiety, depression, hypertension, muscular tension & back pain, panic disorders, asthma, insomnia and digestive disorders among quite a few other things. Breathing is arguably one of the most effective medicines out there across a wide array of illness, it is free and simple and has no negative side effects when done properly. Why aren't more people breathing? No profit motive.

I'd be curious to hear further reports on the use of CS as your experiments with the nebulizer progress. Also curious what the mechanism might be. It may indicate that the asthma (inflamation in the lungs) is being caused by a sub-clinical infection of some sort.

mayhem
06-04-2006, 12:02 AM
Also for asthma consider flax oil

Eating vegetables

Vitamin C


Most of all... learn how to breathe properly. Asthma is a stress related illness. Proper breathing allows you to get control of the autonomic nervous system, which is involved in stress related illness.

Proper breathing is effective for the treatment of: anxiety, depression, hypertension, muscular tension & back pain, panic disorders, asthma, insomnia and digestive disorders among quite a few other things. Breathing is arguably one of the most effective medicines out there across a wide array of illness, it is free and simple and has no negative side effects when done properly. Why aren't more people breathing? No profit motive.

I'd be curious to hear further reports on the use of CS as your experiments with the nebulizer progress. Also curious what the mechanism might be. It may indicate that the asthma (inflamation in the lungs) is being caused by a sub-clinical infection of some sort.

I got the nebulizer from FedX this morning (Sat). So I'll fire it up some time early week.

As far as the vitamins/nutriments go I do take them. But breathing properly? I would be very interested in knowing more about that.

m

bjgnome
06-04-2006, 01:36 PM
As for breathing properly, that would be really easy to teach in person, but typing the answer makes it a little more difficult.

One of the basic principles is that most people, asthmatics included, breathe too rapidly and shallowly. Simply slowing down and deepening the breath makes a difference.

The alveoli of the lungs are most permeable to gasses when they are expanded, because the walls get thinner in a sense. If the breath is shallow, gas transfer (O2 in CO2 out) is much less efficient. In addition, most 2/3 of the oxygen absorbtion capacity in the lungs is in the bottom 1/3 of the lungs. Belly breathing, as babies do, is much more efficient than chest breathing, but few adults use their diaphragm properly.

Some of the oldest texts in the world refer to yogic practices of breath regulation. There you have a tradition of study of the breath that has been going on for millenia. One of your best channels to learn breathing is to attend a pranayama class. Pranayama is the yoga of breath.

Another route to take would be desktop biofeedback. There are two systems I know of. One is produced by HeartMath.

The other one, which I am more familiar with, is called the Journey to Wild Divine... it is a fantasy videogame of sorts, supported by biofeedback hardware. A set of sensors plug into a PC via USB port. The sensors go on your fingers. They measure electroconductivity of the skin and heart rate variability, which are both basic measures of arousal or relaxation of your autonomic nervous system. Through the process of the game, Wild Divine instructs in breathing techniques, which are used to regulate the nervous system. The skills of self-regulation are then necessary in order to overcome certain challenges within the game. After an hour or two plugged into this game, you will discover that it is quite easily to regulate your physiological (and mental/emotional) state through the use of the breath. Run a search for Wild Divine and you will find the software/hardware package widely available.

The connection to asthma is somewhat complex, though a simple way of looking at it is that stress triggers asthma, and proper breathing reduces stress. It is also true that most asthma sufferers have dysfunctional breathing patterns, which can be identified and changed through awareness and practice.

I would NEVER suggest that someone who has experienced severe asthma throw away their corticosteroids. They can and do save lives. But I do believe that alternatives represent a potential cure, while steroids merely treat symptoms.

Anty Ep
06-07-2006, 04:12 PM
I dont have asthma but I hear "ephedrine" is just the ticket for that, heh heh!:bandit:

bjgnome
06-07-2006, 04:25 PM
ephedrine & corticosteroids are working on the same basic principle -stimulate!

The epehedra plant grows all over the high desert, known as mormon tea. It'll give you a nice buzz and clear your lungs, but long term it will deplete your kidneys and adrenals, as I understand it. Most people's adrenals are in enough trouble in our frenetic society.

Short term, I can vouch for the effectiveness of ephedra in suppressing an allergy attack.

lonestarsilver
06-07-2006, 04:43 PM
If you get one of those machines that vaporizes essential oils, some eucalyptus oil can help shortness of breath. I also recommend consulting a Chinese herbalist/acupuncturist in your area. Of course, consult a professional before discontinuing any medications.

Jennifer
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mayhem
06-10-2006, 05:35 PM
As for breathing properly, that would be really easy to teach in person, but typing the answer makes it a little more difficult.

Just got back here. Thanks for the info, I will check it out closely.

I also recommend consulting a Chinese herbalist/acupuncturist in your area. Of course, consult a professional before discontinuing any medications.

Jennifer
My neighbor was just talking to me about a acupuncturist that he goes to and I asked if he ever mentioned asthma to him. He said that he never asked him but will this week when he goes again.

Thanks all for the info, much appreciated.

m