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S&W
03-13-2005, 03:09 AM
I've recently decided to start using CS instead of turning to conventional antibiotics. I think CS can work when used in the proper form. The problem is what proper form and how can I be assured my product is good CS?

Does anyone have a good reference to create good CS generator? Or a good referral to buy one that is honestly not overpriced?

Recently, I was reading of the benefits of true Colloidal Silver compared to Ionic Silver. From my understanding, most home generators make a strong mix of Ionic Silver rather than silver particles that is true colloidal. What is your experience with this information--true, false, maybe sometimes?

When making CS, why must you use distilled water and 99.99 silver?

I read the article in this forum that referred to a CS making reference on Lightwatcher.com and it confused me to tell ya truth. Everyone seems to have their own ideas as to what is best, whether it be how to make it or how to buy it.

For a 5 gallon container, I found one company's product (MesoSilver) claiming to have the smallest and most silver particles (80% particles, 20% ions). But their 5 gallon jug is close to $700 with shipping---that's $1.09 an ounce!!! Ouch!!!! When taking 3 tablespoons a day when fighting something off, it goes really quick. I can finish a 16 ounce bottle off in a week easy just when I'm taking it. Usually, I have my whole family take it when one person is ill with the idea of keeping the healthy from getting what one family member has. In that case it goes 5 times as fast!!!

I've got to find the best and most economical means to make my own CS if possible. I really can't see spending $1,400 a year on CS that I don't know the quality of.

Also, have any of you home brewers ever sent your mix off to a lab to be analyzed? That would be interesting to see results from as well.

One last thing, have any of you homebrewers attempted to make other metal solutions such as colloidal gold, copper, palladium, or platinum?

Thanks and take care.....

Infidel
03-13-2005, 03:18 AM
Colloidal silver has properties that those other metals dont. Silver oxidizes easily. Oxidization is a process by which a chemical compound reacts with others releasing energy in the process, this energy kills bacteria in the case for colloidal silver.

Those other "noble" metals are called that, and are a store of value for the reason that they are non reactive, and not volatile in any way. So while you could produce colloidal compounds of it they would do zilch. Copper is toxic in large quantities, buy a copper bracelet if you want to benefit from it, like golfers do, although I do not know what that does.

In South Africa, before the end of apartheid there was a champaigne manufacturer that sold champaigne in Chrystal bottles with flakes of gold in the drink.

Large Sarge
03-13-2005, 11:50 AM
Does anyone have a good reference to create good CS generator? Or a good referral to buy one that is honestly not overpriced? .....

www.sotainstruments.com (http://www.sotainstruments.com)

I have used most of their products, excellent company.....(no affiliation with them, just a satisfied customer)


Recently, I was reading of the benefits of true Colloidal Silver compared to Ionic Silver. From my understanding, most home generators make a strong mix of Ionic Silver rather than silver particles that is true colloidal. What is your experience with this information--true, false, maybe sometimes?

When making CS, why must you use distilled water and 99.99 silver?
.....

A colloid is a true suspension, your blood is a colloid...... it will stay suspended without a charge.... (much harder to make)

an ionic solution is something dissolved into solution with the use of electricity.... it will stay dissolved, and somewhat suspended while charged....


I read the article in this forum that referred to a CS making reference on Lightwatcher.com and it confused me to tell ya truth. Everyone seems to have their own ideas as to what is best, whether it be how to make it or how to buy it.


I have not read that article, so I cannot comment on it....


For a 5 gallon container, I found one company's product (MesoSilver) claiming to have the smallest and most silver particles (80% particles, 20% ions). But their 5 gallon jug is close to $700 with shipping---that's $1.09 an ounce!!! Ouch!!!! When taking 3 tablespoons a day when fighting something off, it goes really quick. I can finish a 16 ounce bottle off in a week easy just when I'm taking it. Usually, I have my whole family take it when one person is ill with the idea of keeping the healthy from getting what one family member has. In that case it goes 5 times as fast!!!

I've got to find the best and most economical means to make my own CS if possible. I really can't see spending $1,400 a year on CS that I don't know the quality of.

Also, have any of you home brewers ever sent your mix off to a lab to be analyzed? That would be interesting to see results from as well.

One last thing, have any of you homebrewers attempted to make other metal solutions such as colloidal gold, copper, palladium, or platinum?

Thanks and take care.....

$700 bucks for colloidal silver is a lot....
I would buy silver with it....
:)

I have not tried making any of the other metals, Copper has benefits, as does Gold.....

I am unsuure on what benefits you could get from platinum or palladium.....
I do not think i have ever seen them referenced with medicine/nutrition.....

if you are really interested in alternative health stuff, look up ozone also....

start drinking ozonated water everyday.....

once you purchase the ozone maker (roughly $150.00-$200.00 per unit)
it only costs you ice, water, and a few volts of electricity to use it.....

my first ozone maker lasted over 5 years.....
originally cost me $185.00
so about $35.00 a year....

OZONE IS AMAZING!

IMO it beats Colloidal silver hands down!
no toxic side effects, easier administration, cheaper, better benefits....

but using both is a good idea.....

if you have specific ailment you are trying to treat.....,you can P.M. me.....
and I am not a doctor, but I have a lot of experience in this area.....
happy to offer some advice.......

S&W
03-13-2005, 06:05 PM
Zhukher: How about $75 in dimes and $175 in halves? My city/zip is Schertz 78154. If you want to tell me how much the UPS shipping will be I would like to pay via PayPal credit card. Sound good to you? What do you mean you're 100% invested--that you don't own anyother metal? Now is probably a good time to sell and I'm somewhat hesitate to buy but what the heck!

LargeSarge: What does Ozone do in a nutshell?

I'm interested in making my own silver--it's probably a good idea just to make my own a and save the $cash? But I'm concerned that the home-grown stuff is mostly ionic. Ionic from what I read on several source sites is not utilized by the body as much becuase it combines with chloride in your digestive track and is trapped in the kidneys until ammonia sets it free. Ammonia is usually only produced in enough quantity when a person is ill. If thats true, than it should be ok to take when you're ill and treating the sickness. But when well, from what I read, the chloride/silver ion combination is trapped in the kidneys and can lead to kidney stones. Have you ever read this info as well?

S&W
03-13-2005, 06:22 PM
LargeSarge:
This link:
http://www.lwpub.com/CS.html

Is the link the forum entry I referred to above resolved at. It discusses how to make a home version. It suggests that AC silver makers are better due to the alternating voltage and it also states that decreasing the voltage over a long period is better due to several reasons. I don't know, there's so much different home-grown Internet crap about CS I don't know what to believe anymore. One bad thing about the web is that any crack-pot can fabricate info and call it fact so easy.

So ozone makes oxygenated water? That sounds interesting. Have you ever looked at www.oxygenamerica.com (http://www.oxygenamerica.com/) ? This doctor, so he proclaims anyway, wrote a book on every way known to oxygenate the body to prevent and treat disease. I haven't read the book yet but would like to see a summary of the ways to do so. Please someone post them if you know or have it available where you can cut/paste to this discussion topic. Thanks!

Large Sarge
03-14-2005, 05:48 AM
here is a previous thread on Ozone....

http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=18813&highlight=ozone

its benefits are to numerous for me to list...

I have 2-3 full glasses of ozonated water first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach....
then I do Yoga while the ozone is flowing through me....

it helps to get oxygen to all my joints and such, when I am stretching....

Its great stuff.....

and as a side note, tesla is recognized as the first person to make an ozone generator.....

Large Sarge
03-14-2005, 05:54 AM
LargeSarge:
This link:
http://www.lwpub.com/CS.html

Is the link the forum entry I referred to above resolved at. It discusses how to make a home version. It suggests that AC silver makers are better due to the alternating voltage and it also states that decreasing the voltage over a long period is better due to several reasons. I don't know, there's so much different home-grown Internet crap about CS I don't know what to believe anymore. One bad thing about the web is that any crack-pot can fabricate info and call it fact so easy.

So ozone makes oxygenated water? That sounds interesting. Have you ever looked at www.oxygenamerica.com (http://www.oxygenamerica.com/) ? This doctor, so he proclaims anyway, wrote a book on every way known to oxygenate the body to prevent and treat disease. I haven't read the book yet but would like to see a summary of the ways to do so. Please someone post them if you know or have it available where you can cut/paste to this discussion topic. Thanks!

your first link is new to me, and I found it quite good....

I have seen oxygen america before.... its so so IMO

Read the thread on ozone, I think you will realize that it is easier to make, cheaper, less side effects, and more benefits to your health (ie. Ozone helps regulate your Blood pressure, ever hear of C.S. doing that?)