Cancer help.

[Mantokir]

Evenin' all

I want to start by saying this isn't a pity plea. I'm not writing this mearly for attention. I simply don't want to be there at the end going "What else could I have done" So with that out of the way.

My brother was diagnosed with colon cancer a couple months back, he's currently in chemo treatments at the moment. I came here to ask if anyone knows of any off the wall/alternative treatments that have or have the potential to assist in getting rid of cancer. I read a page on here about DCA which is currently in trials but could take about 3 years before it's available to the common person. Frankly we don't have that long.

I'd appreciate any help anyone can give, while I continue on my search. Thanks

Mantokir

[rodin]

I had a friend (well more than) who was diagnosed Stage 4 lung. Tried alternative and failed. At least there was not the horrible chemo death.

Ling is a bitch because cancer is anaerobic (utilises fermentation) so reduced lung capacity compounds the problem. Its a logarithmic progression. Colon should be easier.

Getting oxygen into the blood seems key. Ozone therapy had good results. Alkaline therapy did not work except as palliative by reducing the lactic acid in cancerous cells (very painful)

Laetrile (apricot seeds) is the cure advocated by G Edward Griffin

If it were me I would go clean diet, detox, ozone therapy, laetrile plus maybe moderate Chemo (there are low dose targeted ways of getting to the cancer cells - I can't remember the details). Build up the immune system.

You should get lots more help from the GIM crowd. They are the best.

Colloidal silver - almost forgot.

[Mantokir]

First off, sorry about your loss.

I'm currently looking at a Cesium/DMSO treatment since it seems to be the best for Stage IV cancers, but I will keep what you said in mind once I talk to my parents about it. You wouldn't happen to have any sort of experience with this? Or anyone reading this for that matter...

As far as the silver... I have a new line of research to do. I'm off to the Colloidal Silver threads.

Mantokir

[momopanda]

Sorry for your situation. Always hate to get peoples hopes up too , but I'd say google "Johanna Budwig."
It is not for everyone. Not an easy regimen like taking some pills once a day, but her proponents claim a 90% success rate even in late stage cancers.

There used to be a pretty exstensive and supportive group about her work and diet that had many survivors on it at healingcancernaturally.com or another AH site, I forget which.
Good luck to you and your brother.

[Mantokir]

Momo

It's not so much getting my hopes up, coming from the military we had a prepare for the worst and hope for the best mentality, I just don't wanna be there going "what else could I have done." If I'm standing there and the end knowing I did everything in my power to help... then I'll be satisfied. It would still suck but at least I won't have that hanging over my head.

That Budwig name does sound familiar though, might have seen it in passing but I'll research it specifically. Thanks again you two.

Mantokir

[madhu]

Sorry to hear about ur brother.
first what is the extent of his disease? where has it metastastasized to?
Anderson cancer center in texas, Sloan kettering are some of the best centers.
Try getting a second opinion.
take care and good luck

[Mantokir]

Sorry to hear about ur brother.
first what is the extent of his disease? where has it metastastasized to?
Anderson cancer center in texas, Sloan kettering are some of the best centers.
Try getting a second opinion.
take care and good luck

Not sure on either of those questions. I'm gonna talk to my parents this week to answer any questions of that nature, and do the research now so I have a head start on it. The only thing I do know is he was given 6 months to a year which is where the Stage IV comes in at.

[momopanda]

I hear you. The healingcancernaturally.com site has lots about her work. And other alternatives methods. It's a great site.
If you decide to try the Budwig Protocol, and if you'd like a couple of her books Lemme know (I know I have these two: "Flax Oil As a True Aid Against Arthritis, Heart Infarction, Cancer and Other Diseases" (3rd Edition) & "The Oil Protein Diet Cookbook") The translations from German are less than ideal for some reason, and you can probably learn more about the protocol nowadays from websites and forums etc like the one I mentioned above. But I'll stick 'em in the mail if you like.

[rodin]

First off, sorry about your loss.

I'm currently looking at a Cesium/DMSO treatment since it seems to be the best for Stage IV cancers, but I will keep what you said in mind once I talk to my parents about it. You wouldn't happen to have any sort of experience with this? Or anyone reading this for that matter...

As far as the silver... I have a new line of research to do. I'm off to the Colloidal Silver threads.

Mantokir

Cs DMSO helps sypmtoms at first, but in my experience did not reverse the condition.

We tried Budvig diet too. Didn't do any harm.

I think Ozone therapy, detox, great diet w/ minerals & vits etc (non of this denatured supermarket sh*t), apricot kernels/Laetrile (mebbe IV ozone and laetrile), colloidal silver why not. Some electrotherapy looks interesting. TPTB will be out there with false flag alternative cancer cures, to protect their big pharma/population control agenda.

A simple and cheap and stand-alone (does not interefere with other) treatment might be GEIPE. Some swear by VIBE and RIFE machines and clones.

I would like to hear from people who have had 100% success with alt methods. Testimony rare as rocking horse sh1t.

[Mantokir]

I hear you. The healingcancernaturally.com site has lots about her work. And other alternatives methods. It's a great site.
If you decide to try the Budwig Protocol, and if you'd like a couple of her books Lemme know (I know I have these two: "Flax Oil As a True Aid Against Arthritis, Heart Infarction, Cancer and Other Diseases" (3rd Edition) & "The Oil Protein Diet Cookbook") The translations from German are less than ideal for some reason, and you can probably learn more about the protocol nowadays from websites and forums etc like the one I mentioned above. But I'll stick 'em in the mail if you like.

Well that offer was a lot more than I was looking for. :D I'll keep it in mind, but leave them on the bookshelf for now.

Mantokir

[Mantokir]

Cs DMSO helps sypmtoms at first, but in my experience did not reverse the condition.


Noted.. though even just getting rid of the symptoms would be good after seeing what he's going through.

Mantokir

Edit: Rodin, I'm also finding testimonies from different methods as well... there's a hell of a lot more out there than I previously believed. Yay for opened eyes....

[rodin]

Noted.. though even just getting rid of the symptoms would be good after seeing what he's going through.

Mantokir

See above for more info I edit that post

[Mantokir]

See above for more info I edit that post


Ditto :-) (Ten more characters so that I can post this)

[Glass]

These type of cancers generally get their power from a food source the sufferer is eating.

for example, breast cancer gains lots of energy from soy foods. If you are a women and you use soy as a milk replacement then breast cancer risk to you is very high if not a certainty

Sugar is another one, where simple sugars such as those in processed foods, pre-made meals, burgers, pretty much any food that is not made fresh, soda's etc can power very aggressive cancer

http://www.thedietchannel.com/Cancer-and-Diet-Does-Sugar-Feed-Cancer.htm

have a look for cancer feeding foods or cancer fuels that type of thing. I wish your brother all the best.

[californiajeff]

That's some good info glass.

I have also been reading some reports lately that some foms of cancer are caused by the consumption of pork products. I would recommend everyone cutting out all pork products from their diet. A lot of symptoms caused by pork consumption can disappear after completely cutting out pork from your diet and staying off of it.

[Mantokir]

I figure I should throw my 2 cents worth of research in from today. I started all this at around 11 ish this morning, and am still going. In that short time I've learned quite a bit. Just a few bullet points of what I've found.

- Cancer treatment is actually worse than the cancer itself.
- Chemo destroys the immune system (inhibiting the bodies ability to fight back)
- Chemo actually kills the bodies healthy cells.
- Chemo causes nausea which can lead to less desire to eat, causing malnutritiion or even kill the intestinal lining which keeps nutrients from being absorbed.


-The seemingly best way to treat cancer is to build up your immune system. (Which explains why I don't currently have this same form of cancer)
- Eat plenty of food with cancer fighting nutrients (Whoda thunk it)


For testimonies that I've found (These are the must reads even if you have no interest in this topic)
- Abraham Cherrix (Big Pharma tried to FORCE him by court order to take Chemo) http://www.abrahamsjourney.com/
- Chad Jessop (Similar to above)
- Billy Best (ran away from home to avoid Chemo)

I'm sure I've still got a lot to learn, but damn this is amazing.... consider me a converted sheeple.

Mantokir

And Glass, I've noticed that while doing all this research that stuff like soda and whatnot are included in those foods, and because my brother is going through this my parents have taken a not so strict path towards his foods. So now I gotta edumacate them. :-)

[KASHMAN02]

Latest Research


According to the research of Dr Enderlein, our bodies can only be healed of any chronic illness when our blood is at a normal, slightly alkaline pH.

What exactly does pH mean? pH is the short form for potential hydrogen. The pH of any solution is the measure of its hydrogen-ion concentration. The higher the pH reading, the more alkaline and oxygen rich the fluid is. The lower the pH reading, the more acidic and oxygen deprived the fluid is. The pH ranges from 0 to 14, with 7.0 being neutral. Indicator above 7.0 is alkaline and below 7.0 is considered acidic.

Our blood pH has a very narrow range of around 7.35 to 7.45. If our body's pH deviates from this range, we will be sick or have symptoms of falling sick. If our blood pH falls below 6.8 or above 7.8, our body cells will stop functioning and death will occur.

A normal healthy body will have an almost equal blood pH of acidity and alkalinity. The most ideal pH balance is 7.4 , which means that it is slightly more alkaline than acid. Only when the pH level is balance that our bodies can then effectively assimilate vitamins, minerals and food supplements. As such, our body pH's determines everything.

An acid pH body is more prone to illness. In an acidic environment, red blood cells cannot repel and stick together like a stack of coins, forming what is called rouleau formation. This formation limits the amount of oxygen carrying capacity because red blood cells sandwiched between the two ends are compressed against each other and therefore unable to carry oxygen. Reduced oxygen leads fatigue, lack of energy, and weakness, just to mention a few symptoms. Furthermore, cancer cells strives in an oxygen deprived environment (anaerobic) much better than in an oxygen rich environment.
The importance of maintaining optimum pH is therefore a critical factor in balancing proper internal terrain to deter cancer, infection, and a host of inflammatory disease. The majority of these conditions worsen in an acidic environment. They do not do well in an acidic environment.


What then happens when the body is too acidic? An acidic balance will:

1. Decrease the body's ability to absorb minerals and other nutrients

2. Decrease energy production in the cells

3. Decrease the body's ability to repair damaged cells

4. Decrease the body's ability to detoxify heavy metals

5. Enable tumor cells to thrive

6. Make the body more susceptible to fatigue and illness.

Some people who have high acidity levels tend to exhibit these symptoms such as: anxiety, diarrhea, dilated pupils, extroverted behavior, fatigue in early morning, headaches, hyperactivity, hyper sexuality, insomnia, nervousness, rapid heartbeat, restless legs, shortness of breath, strong appetite, high blood pressure, warm dry hands and feet.

Most of the time, the body becomes acidic due to a diet rich in acids, emotional stress, toxic overload, and/or immune reactions or any process that deprives the cells of oxygen and other nutrients. When this happens, the body will try to compensate for acidic pH by using alkaline minerals such as calcium. As a result, calcium is removed from the bones, causing osteoporosis.

Acidosis, which is an extended time in the acid pH state, can result in rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, lupus, tuberculosis, osteoporosis, high blood pressure and most cancers.

Two main factors leading to cancer are an acidic pH and a lack of oxygen. As such, are we able to manipulate these two factors so as to prevent and control cancer?

Everyone knows that cancer needs an acidic and low oxygen environment to survive and flourish. Research has proven that terminal cancer patients have an acidity level of 1,000 times more than normal healthy people. The vast majority of terminal cancer patients have a very acidic pH. Why is this so?

The reason is simple. Without oxygen, glucose undergoing fermentation becomes lactic acid. This causes the pH of the cell to drop to 7.0. In more advance cancer cases, the pH level falls further to 6.5. Sometimes, the level can even fall to 6.0 and 5.7 or lower. The basic truth is that our bodies simply cannot fight diseases if our pH is not properly balanced.

The normal human cell is slightly alkaline and has an abundance of molecular oxygen. The cancer cell is acidic and cannot survive in an oxygen rich environment. As such, we can conclude that pH balance is very important to one's health, especially for the cancer patient.

The pH indicators are an exponent number of 10. A small difference in pH will translate to a big difference in the number of oxygen or OH-ions. A difference of 1 in a pH value means ten times the difference in the number of OH-ions. A difference of 2 means one hundred times the difference in the n

umber of OH-ions. In other words, a blood with a pH value of 7.45 contains 64.9% more oxygen than blood with a pH value of 7.30

That being said , cancer can't live in an akaline blood type, adjust the diet and the cancer will die, the heart will heal, been there and did it.

[Mantokir]

Kash, that's great... nice and concise and says what I've been looking at for the past few hours. One of the main treatment methods seems to be getting oxygen actually INTO the cancer cells or creating a pH of 8.0 or higher inside the cells but maintaining a health pH outside.

Mantokir

[2_point]

a story of MMS

1) http://goldtent.com/wp_gold/2007/11/16/to-our-health/
2) http://goldtent.com/wp_gold/2007/12/22/brrrmystr-247-am-cancer-update/
3) http://goldtent.com/wp_gold/2007/12/22/brrrmystr-cancer-update/

Chlorine DiOxide

No Miracle, Just Wonderful Chemistry
http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/09/09/no-miracle-just-wonderful-chemistry/

http://miraclemineral.org/index.php

http://www.subtleenergytherapy.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=34

http://www.globallight.net/Mms_86.html

http://www.globallight.net/Sodium-Chlorite-Solution.html

Good Luck !!

[Glass]

- Cancer treatment is actually worse than the cancer itself.
- Chemo destroys the immune system (inhibiting the bodies ability to fight back)
- Chemo actually kills the bodies healthy cells.
- Chemo causes nausea which can lead to less desire to eat, causing malnutritiion or even kill the intestinal lining which keeps nutrients from being absorbed.


-The seemingly best way to treat cancer is to build up your immune system. (Which explains why I don't currently have this same form of cancer)
- Eat plenty of food with cancer fighting nutrients (Whoda thunk it)



whole lotta truth there Mantokir. I am developing a cruel suspicion about cancer and the resultant chemo treatment. I suspect that some sicko invented chemo to stretch out the agony misery element of cancer.

californiajeff you are so right but it is not just pork, its most if not all processed meats. In the "olden days" pork/ham and other proccessed meats were cured using brine - salty water basically.

"Nowa days" meats including pork, ham, bacon, bolonga, salami's, pepperoni's.... all of these processed meats are cured using sodium nitrate. An ingredient that is considered a carcinogen.

BUT..... it doesn't stop there, even your nice juicy red steak on display at the butcher or supermarket is sprayed with sodium nitrate because it makes the meat nice and pink looking. Very appealing to meat eaters. Ever pulled open a two+ steak pack and seen the color of the meat under the top slice?

Any one work in an abattoir like to tell us what color meat really is when its fresh cut? From my memory and its not so good... never been a fan of pig meat but ham/bacon traditionally cured is a kind of very very light brown/grey color.

[Mantokir]

2_point

Thank you for those, I'm reading em now, and do you have any experience with MMS?

Glass

two numbers for ya....

Alternative methods = less than 1000 dollars

Chemo on average = 350,000 dollars.

That's what it comes down too, and it turns out that chemo seemingly does nothing but kill the patient anyway.

As for the steak, it's a weird brownish color... very unappatizing.

and morning all.

Mantokir