Parasites are not wanted here Kitco mods & others

[Thomas Jefferson]

TJ here...
i wonder how long I will be here???

Could not take the braindeads and Parasites at Kitco any longer or the loser Socialist mods...I gave them the boot...




Israel's central bank announced on the 20th it will buy over 12 bln usd over the next two years increasing its reserves and to "stabilise" the shitlick exchange rate.

Bank of Israel buying 25 mln usd each business day & gearing up??!!
Finance Minister Ronni Bar Recons this is important because USD has dropped
USD up to 3.445 shitlicks from 3.390 on Wednesday.

Israel CB bought US currency from slipping below a 10-year low against the shekel. figure at nearly 100 mln usd??
short term looks like, oil and gold will continue to correct from an extremely overbought condition. As they do, the moves will be hard and fast.

Since these two commodities are priced in dollars it puts them on the opposite side of dollars. Meaning that as oil and gold go up, the buck plummets. And as oil and gold correct downward, the dollar benefits.


Will the dollar will get a short term bounce within its longer term bearish downtrend.

Since oil's direction somewhat mirrors that of the EUR/USD, EUR/USD will pull back in the short term as oil does the same.

So the long term direction is not changing but boy are many going to get "forced out" of their positions in this volatile correction. That will only aid the dollar in the very near term.





Since these two commods are priced in dollars it puts them on the opposite side of dollars. Meaning that as oil and gold go up, the buck plummets. And as oil and gold correct downward, the dollar benefits.

The whole world has gotten way too bearish on the buck in the short run and it will catch most of the world by surprise. As they are on the wrong side of the trade in the correction, it will "scare" many out of their positions. Some will be "forced" out due to margin calls. This will all bring both oil and gold into a healthy pull back within their larger uptrends.
As this happens the dollar will get a short term bounce within its longer term bearish downtrend.
Since oil's direction somewhat mirrors that of the EUR/USD, EUR/USD will pull back in the short term as oil does the same.

So the long term direction is probably not changing but boy are many going to get "forced out" of their positions in this volatile correction. That will only aid the dollar in the very near term.

Cheneys little visit to the House of Saud to me was obviously a short term pressure talk to tell the King scum to give us a breather ...smoke and mirrors....I am guessing but I see oil going down very short term...remember these scum bags are in bed with each other and the sauds need US thugs and the other need oil both have guns to each others heads and growng numbers of their slaves that are waking up to the bullshit!!!

I guess ...also with the Fed handing out worthless paper first to their buddies to throw at the NY stock market ...this gives the big boys time to blind the sheep with a false flag rally and time for them to get out.....
do remember how a liguiity drain works thou (this is key to understanding the deflation)...but who cares ....supply and demand ..if I was a rich chinaman I would buy a piece of Aspen Realestate..but hey i love the mountains and beauty..maybe they dont??!!maybe they love breating in coal dust???!!!& drinking water with poop in it!!!

The US econ will rally but it will be owned by offshore buyers and the American middle class will be slaves...to the foreign owners (and only REAL wealth areas and nice liitle vistas.....while ""We the American people"" live in rat boxs ...the gap will explode ...more for few lessfor more...and the more taxed more hmmmmm
Time for Ben bulltrap bernake to do another fix on the CPI liks Greenspan did??!!If Mincemeat gets to expensive and lifts the index (which soc sec payouts are based on)Americans better get a taste for canned dogmeat(maybe that same cheap crap they tryyed feeding your dogs and cats with !!!).

Look this baby is going down,......

I wonder if we will see and govt (regs only) going into a infrastructure bull at some time??since the Corrupt scum bags and traitors at the fed cannot force the tolilet paper (which is not even double ply )through the banks front doors money hose Ben has started opening giveawys to anyone and everyone.....China's infrastructure is crap...so is the US but at least the chinese can flog peasants and have alot of Aussie mins stock piled,..the US has debt and no mineral stickpiles and fat baby boomers who cannot take a flogging ,& the younger ones like me are getting pissed (so if you are young get ready for the beat down)...this could be the next bullride...but financed & owned by whom.???..the answer lies with what these traitors are doing with the super new world order corridor in Texas....check out that bullshit deal...Americans are forced off their property so foreigners can get it for free..Americans then have to pay to ride on it with empty tanks....sounds like the economic hitmen have moved well and truely home!!!!!

How much crap will the American peolple take !!!!and this ALSO goes for the same crap that that will unfold in Austrailia NZ Europe......unless of course you can define a new global supply & demand money chain to suck up Asian competing made crap!!!!(and they all have high inflation & deminishing markets)wait for the rate wars...

Gold is going to go all the way into orbit....these political manips are death throws...

This is my first post here ...had a short one with Sagi who is well ahead of the pack...the truth of cheap nuclaer energy or the conjob of others will lead the way....the saudis are bluffing and scared ...unless they can figure a way to
use sand to run the worlds engine...

Can a few of my freinds at kitco paste my buy now make a ton comments here...
Cajus arium and the other arses are not welcome on this thread..and if i am not welcome here...too bad ...
I will then I will be off to Galts Gulch...

where I will sit back and watch the whole neocon Rock & Roth system head for civil war or the NAU ...either way Gold is going through the roof...
details get boring...
I do say this make sure you dont get sucker punched on false flag drops...the scum bags traitors at the CFR NEED gold to back their new system &.... if they are bought down which would be very very ugly....the new system will also need it...Gold will also never come down...

look at what that Arsehole Greenspan is doing in China and Saudi with his CFR whoring buddy Pullthrough ..telling them to dump USD....

I suggest another grreat book ....that is a must "The secret History of the American Empire"by Perkins...

someone from kitco told me they had done some sailing around Vietnam...I am looking at a swann 43....I would like to continue that converse....Look you can play the swings and poo yourself every time the fed etc try to save themselves & hide the nightmare or just buy Solid and get a life and stick it to them...at some stage I think they will up up the limits on solid buy ins and regulate but talk & manips will up and push the trading pool accounts ...they need and want the gold .....so to give them the finger buy as much solid as you can NOW and sit back and relax...when all of this plays itself out...they will have to convince the sheep to buy into a new monetry system .....gold has the history and the confidence to do it...BUT they need solid (or the black market will provide confidence)..and there just is not that much around...
Remember the USD is now backed with debt and shitty baskets of crap...
Not gold like as it used to be... it needs to be issued without debt attached...

Power and wealth and control orbit around energy .Paper is only a conjuit of exchange ...but when it is backed with crap
and there is too much of it ....it worthless.

Big bulltrap...who knows how long they can use their majic tricks..I suspect not very long...it all comes down to extorting foreign leaders now!!!i know this watch the treasury bond bids...
The bubble has to expand or be paid back & the powers at be are all in bed with each other .They all have crap on each other and they are scared & this has to go ALL the way to the wire unless We Step in and throw them out ....or they sell the dumb boomers with a bubble expansion and a continued supply & demand chain...Asia cannot swallow its own supply and has angry peasants that dont want go go back to their shacks ..they all have inflationary nightmares & a shrinking amount of buyers....so what will they do ...or what will we do....???

here go relax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbcn8z-gRBo&NR=1
TJ:wink:

[FunnyMoney]

...Cajus arium and the other arses are not welcome on thiis thread..and if i am not welcome here...too bad ...
I will then be off to Galts Gulch...

And sit back and watch the whole neocon Rock & Roth system head for civil war or the NAU ...either way Gold is going through the roof...

..Asiaswallow its own supply and has angry peasnts that dont want go go back to their shacs ..they all have inflationary nightmares & a shrinking ammount of buyers....so what will they do ...or what will we do....???
TJ:wink:

Welcome TJ, although not my place to really say that, as I'm just a guest here too.,

At the other forum, they had plenty of chances and blew them all, they are lost. If you cannot say you're sorry and drop your pride on an anonymous Internet forum, then where the H&^% can you!!

Indeed it is global now, and the supply demand fundamentals for everything from food to energy to PMs is going to change everything and has been.
Gasoline nears 4 dollars a gallon in Calif.
Silver had its biggest one day in 2 decades and nobody in the MSM even noticed.
Fiat is about as fake as it gets, so once we are allowed to find out who the big individual buyers of gold and platinum have been at any price, that is likely when the music will stop.

[Firenhole]

Welcome TJ...May I suggest looking over the site and seeing the different forums to post in, here is the Stock and TA forum, this article may be more suited for General Discussion. Again welcome aboard.

Firenhole

[____hoot____]

TJ, sounds like you have been out whiffin the chemtrails for too long; get on some oxygen bro

[Thomas Jefferson]

Welcome TJ...May I suggest looking over the site and seeing the different forums to post in, here is the Stock and TA forum, this article may be more suited for General Discussion. Again welcome aboard.

Firenhole

No!!
Everything I say is extremely important and effects the Gold market..you may suggest....after all I advocate freespeech .......but not socialists or traitors!!!

Pure reactioanry baby babble on whats happening to gold ..or what has happened does not cut it,....

perhaps ALL of that crap should move over to the poo forum...

I have a wide and in depth understanding of the monetry/geopolitical situation and the undercurrents of manipulations that "regulate "them.....

If you or any others think this is a purely "logical" game or numbers operation,
You are misinformed and need to pull your head out....
Even though in the end Rationale will rule ....unless we dont have a revolution....and kick these turn coats out...

I have a brain and prepared to use it as a weapon and anyone that gets in my way or the Constitution better put up shut up...

But Thanks for the invite....like I say...the IQ ratings have gone down all around...& intelligence is rarely applauded anymore because most morons cannot spot it if it hits them in the side of the head .They cant even grasp the fundamental foundations of everyday common sense.

To Remain ahead of the pack in this Bull you need to understand who, why, when and what pulls the strings and the reactions of the masses....
And hint hint !!!!!how a liquidity trap works.....
Of course the other end is political retension of power & that can only expand and remain intact with a new landscape of supply and demand...and a new political fondation ...

So your request is a very very uneducated one...I ask you to step back and re think your premises or state yours.

Thanks
TJ:wink:

[Thomas Jefferson]

TJ, sounds like you have been out whiffin the chemtrails for too long; get on some oxygen bro

State your business or retreat to your socialist foxhole.

Translation....Show us the money..if you are so enlightened.
pretender..why so coy Sir?? or should I say BRO!!!you arent another dumbed down kiwi are you or Maori??
If so go attract your own "bros"on your own thread!!

TJ:wink:

[____hoot____]

Sir you are obviously on some agression induceing drug or influence and trying to pick a fight, for your own reasons or those of your masters; it matters not. I was only offerring a friendly jestful excuse for your condition[that we are all suffering under now], and a remedy. If you have no sense of humor, I will have nothing more to do with you.

[FunnyMoney]

State your business or retreat to your socialist foxhole.
...


I think that if there was any doubt before, that there should be none now: we are in the midst of a war and very few around the globe even recongnize it.

Read TJ's footer, and figure it out.
The Asians, Indian's and the uneducated in the better part of the developing world don't have a clue.
Those here who think they can run and hide are mistaken.
And Democracy is 2 coyotes and a sheep voting on what's for dinner, so those who throw that word around here at GIM need to go back and study some history.

Gold going to 5 digits will not mean you have won, GIMers may become very rich, but at what expense. And with a loss of freedom worldwide, what will happen to your children?
The founding Fathers had the answers, but few now study them.

Victory will not be measured by what Fiat price gold finally reaches, but by how many middle class peoples have protected their savings and wealth in it.

[Thomas Jefferson]

Sir you are obviously on some agression induceing drug or influence and trying to pick a fight, for your own reasons or those of your masters; it matters not. I was only offerring a friendly jestful excuse for your condition[that we are all suffering under now], and a remedy. If you have no sense of humor, I will have nothing more to do with you.

I do have a sense of humor..
1.You came onto this thread very quickly and offered nothing of value
Reread your line it reads as coming from a sheeple.
Whats makes you justify yourself as being wanted,,,,,And if you fire bullets with no laugh line attached dont expect a pat on the back from me .I wasnt expecting a relationship...you get defensive very quickily...

Add some solid info..then abuse the crap out of me ...i love empty arrows...

Maybe you have not had a conversation with someone who has a brain in a while and i will forgive your mistake.....once....

Thankyou for the wecome & here go watch some bill hicks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrgwZsGC9A&feature=related (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrgwZsGC9A&feature=related)


TJ:wink:

[Thomas Jefferson]

I think that if there was any doubt before, that there should be none now: we are in the midst of a war and very few around the globe even recongnize it.

Read TJ's footer, and figure it out.
The Asians, Indian's and the uneducated in the better part of the developing world don't have a clue.
Those here who think they can run and hide are mistaken.
And Democracy is 2 coyotes and a sheep voting on what's for dinner, so those who throw that word around here at GIM need to go back and study some history.

Gold going to 5 digits will not mean you have won, GIMers may become very rich, but at what expense. And with a loss of freedom worldwide, what will happen to your children?
The founding Fathers had the answers, but few now study them.

Victory will not be measured by what Fiat price gold finally reaches, but by how many middle class peoples have protected their savings and wealth in it.

Thankyou Funny money .I can see you are awake..
Please add to the brain pool at any time ,And you are 100% correct...
what do you think about my comment on the infrastructure bull??

Thanks
TJ:wink:

[mooshcook]

aiieeeyaiyai...................

[FunnyMoney]

...
what do you think about my comment on the infrastructure bull??

China's infrastructure is crap...so is the US but at least the chinese can flog peasants and have alot of Aussie mins stock piled,..the US has debt and no mineral stickpiles and fat baby boomers who cannot take a flogging ,& the younger ones like me are getting pissed (so if you are young get ready for the beat down)...this could be the next bullride...but financed & owned by whom.???..the answer lies with what these traitors are doing with the super new world order corridor in Texas....check out that bullshit deal...Americans are forced off their property so foreigners can get it for free..Americans then have to pay to ride on it with empty tanks....sounds like the economic hitmen have moved well and truely home!!!!!


Selling of infrastructure projects, like toll roads and so forth to private parties is the likely course of action, I agree. It happens all over the developing world currently and soon to a USA region near you.

Get off their grid and block and boycot the entrance ramps is about all we will be left with.

____________________

Victory will not be measured by what Fiat price gold finally reaches, but by how many middle class peoples have protected their savings and wealth in it.

[Canadian-guerilla]

Everything I say is extremely important


i think you and your know-it-all attitude may be the first to be on my ignore list

[rodin]

TJ I hope you don't mind a word of advice from another guest... I dig where you are coming from re the matrix as quite a few do here. But chill with the aggression towards other posters. I would hate to see a useful ally banned for ad hominems.

Your views and insights will be valued by many here. Welcome.

[Thomas Jefferson]

TJ I hope you don't mind a word of advice from another guest... I dig where you are coming from re the matrix as quite a few do here. But chill with the aggression towards other posters. I would hate to see a useful ally banned for ad hominems.

Your views and insights will be valued by many here. Welcome.

Rodin,cipherhighwind i will name a few others we need to discuss things on a private forum..

Thankyou
TJ:wink:
Canadian geese fly home and stay home...with the flightless kiwi bird.
oil will flow freely for 2-6 weeks .
The shadows of power quietly exit after each pump of Air.
but the injection cannot stay in the system.
pools are for mad dogs and englishmen.fill the pool but get paid in fiat.
I keep my metal to the pedal.mins and regs will be the next hat trick.
what looks the greatset to short is the target of the PPT.
covering shorts with the selling of golden bars is short term and the assets
have to dry up.The sheep are running with the wolves who are dressed as bulls but really bears.
whats really left on the asset books tells you who are the allies of the PPT.

TJ:wink:

here enjoy while you buy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Yp1lD4Ohg

[Firenhole]

TJ here...
i wonder how long I will be here???

Could not take the braindeads and Parasites at Kitco any longer or the loser Socialist mods...I gave them the boot...




Israel's central bank announced on the 20th it will buy over 12 bln usd over the next two years increasing its reserves and to "stabilise" the shitlick exchange rate.

Bank of Israel buying 25 mln usd each business day & gearing up??!!
Finance Minister Ronni Bar Recons this is important because USD has dropped
USD up to 3.445 shitlicks from 3.390 on Wednesday.

Israel CB bought US currency from slipping below a 10-year low against the shekel. figure at nearly 100 mln usd??
short term looks like, oil and gold will continue to correct from an extremely overbought condition. As they do, the moves will be hard and fast.

Since these two commodities are priced in dollars it puts them on the opposite side of dollars. Meaning that as oil and gold go up, the buck plummets. And as oil and gold correct downward, the dollar benefits.


Will the dollar will get a short term bounce within its longer term bearish downtrend.

Since oil's direction somewhat mirrors that of the EUR/USD, EUR/USD will pull back in the short term as oil does the same.

So the long term direction is not changing but boy are many going to get "forced out" of their positions in this volatile correction. That will only aid the dollar in the very near term.





Since these two commods are priced in dollars it puts them on the opposite side of dollars. Meaning that as oil and gold go up, the buck plummets. And as oil and gold correct downward, the dollar benefits.

The whole world has gotten way too bearish on the buck in the short run and it will catch most of the world by surprise. As they are on the wrong side of the trade in the correction, it will "scare" many out of their positions. Some will be "forced" out due to margin calls. This will all bring both oil and gold into a healthy pull back within their larger uptrends.
As this happens the dollar will get a short term bounce within its longer term bearish downtrend.
Since oil's direction somewhat mirrors that of the EUR/USD, EUR/USD will pull back in the short term as oil does the same.

So the long term direction is probably not changing but boy are many going to get "forced out" of their positions in this volatile correction. That will only aid the dollar in the very near term.

Cheneys little visit to the House of Saud to me was obviously a short term pressure talk to tell the King scum to give us a breather ...smoke and mirrors....I am guessing but I see oil going down very short term...remember these scum bags are in bed with each other and the sauds need US thugs and the other need oil both have guns to each others heads and growng numbers of their slaves that are waking up to the bullshit!!!

I guess ...also with the Fed handing out worthless paper first to their buddies to throw at the NY stock market ...this gives the big boys time to blind the sheep with a false flag rally and time for them to get out.....
do remember how a liguiity drain works thou (this is key to understanding the deflation)...but who cares ....supply and demand ..if I was a rich chinaman I would buy a piece of Aspen Realestate..but hey i love the mountains and beauty..maybe they dont??!!maybe they love breating in coal dust???!!!& drinking water with poop in it!!!

The US econ will rally but it will be owned by offshore buyers and the American middle class will be slaves...to the foreign owners (and only REAL wealth areas and nice liitle vistas.....while ""We the American people"" live in rat boxs ...the gap will explode ...more for few lessfor more...and the more taxed more hmmmmm
Time for Ben bulltrap bernake to do another fix on the CPI liks Greenspan did??!!If Mincemeat gets to expensive and lifts the index (which soc sec payouts are based on)Americans better get a taste for canned dogmeat(maybe that same cheap crap they tryyed feeding your dogs and cats with !!!).

Look this baby is going down,......

I wonder if we will see and govt (regs only) going into a infrastructure bull at some time??since the Corrupt scum bags and traitors at the fed cannot force the tolilet paper (which is not even double ply )through the banks front doors money hose Ben has started opening giveawys to anyone and everyone.....China's infrastructure is crap...so is the US but at least the chinese can flog peasants and have alot of Aussie mins stock piled,..the US has debt and no mineral stickpiles and fat baby boomers who cannot take a flogging ,& the younger ones like me are getting pissed (so if you are young get ready for the beat down)...this could be the next bullride...but financed & owned by whom.???..the answer lies with what these traitors are doing with the super new world order corridor in Texas....check out that bullshit deal...Americans are forced off their property so foreigners can get it for free..Americans then have to pay to ride on it with empty tanks....sounds like the economic hitmen have moved well and truely home!!!!!

How much crap will the American peolple take !!!!and this ALSO goes for the same crap that that will unfold in Austrailia NZ Europe......unless of course you can define a new global supply & demand money chain to suck up Asian competing made crap!!!!(and they all have high inflation & deminishing markets)wait for the rate wars...

Gold is going to go all the way into orbit....these political manips are death throws...

This is my first post here ...had a short one with Sagi who is well ahead of the pack...the truth of cheap nuclaer energy or the conjob of others will lead the way....the saudis are bluffing and scared ...unless they can figure a way to
use sand to run the worlds engine...

Can a few of my freinds at kitco paste my buy now make a ton comments here...
Cajus arium and the other arses are not welcome on this thread..and if i am not welcome here...too bad ...
I will then I will be off to Galts Gulch...

where I will sit back and watch the whole neocon Rock & Roth system head for civil war or the NAU ...either way Gold is going through the roof...
details get boring...
I do say this make sure you dont get sucker punched on false flag drops...the scum bags traitors at the CFR NEED gold to back their new system &.... if they are bought down which would be very very ugly....the new system will also need it...Gold will also never come down...

look at what that Arsehole Greenspan is doing in China and Saudi with his CFR whoring buddy Pullthrough ..telling them to dump USD....

I suggest another grreat book ....that is a must "The secret History of the American Empire"by Perkins...

someone from kitco told me they had done some sailing around Vietnam...I am looking at a swann 43....I would like to continue that converse....Look you can play the swings and poo yourself every time the fed etc try to save themselves & hide the nightmare or just buy Solid and get a life and stick it to them...at some stage I think they will up up the limits on solid buy ins and regulate but talk & manips will up and push the trading pool accounts ...they need and want the gold .....so to give them the finger buy as much solid as you can NOW and sit back and relax...when all of this plays itself out...they will have to convince the sheep to buy into a new monetry system .....gold has the history and the confidence to do it...BUT they need solid (or the black market will provide confidence)..and there just is not that much around...
Remember the USD is now backed with debt and shitty baskets of crap...
Not gold like as it used to be... it needs to be issued without debt attached...

Power and wealth and control orbit around energy .Paper is only a conjuit of exchange ...but when it is backed with crap
and there is too much of it ....it worthless.

Big bulltrap...who knows how long they can use their majic tricks..I suspect not very long...it all comes down to extorting foreign leaders now!!!i know this watch the treasury bond bids...
The bubble has to expand or be paid back & the powers at be are all in bed with each other .They all have crap on each other and they are scared & this has to go ALL the way to the wire unless We Step in and throw them out ....or they sell the dumb boomers with a bubble expansion and a continued supply & demand chain...Asia cannot swallow its own supply and has angry peasants that dont want go go back to their shacks ..they all have inflationary nightmares & a shrinking amount of buyers....so what will they do ...or what will we do....???

here go relax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbcn8z-gRBo&NR=1 (http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbcn8z-gRBo&NR=1)
TJ:wink:


Actually you coward you were BANNED...they gave you the boot you loser!



Firenhole

[Thomas Jefferson]

Actually you coward you were BANNED...they gave you the boot you looser!



Firenhole

Actually you just cannot get enough of me ...i thought you were going to ignore me?????
I told them they were all parasites and losers and i told them to stick it ,Krank did as well...
please copy and paste my last post you LIAR....with the time and also post that i REQUESTED TO BE BANNED from their site & come back Learn ....or
get off my thread you Robot. NOW!!
Go somewhere that is Good like Kitco!!!
Go find your Soul...

Now bye bye little one
I dont like squashing defenseless babies
TJ:D

[Firenhole]

you must of got more crack! You now are on ignore.

[Thomas Jefferson]

So Ben has commited 60% of the $709 billion in treasury securities to liquidity.
And has opened the door to more.
Ammo is drying up. for overnights & freebees for his handlers.

OK they could cut the bench rate to zero....Quant easing..blah blah.
hmmmm

This stinks of a liquidity trap to me ..I smell blood on the Wall and on the
Street....

Look Ben may have to shove that stuff into our letter boxs in the form of
double ply to force me to take it....I would like mine with GWs face on it and D Rocks as well.... that way I get some pleasure out of using it....

when short term interest is close to zero ...neg % curr swaps for neg debt well....the tail is eating the head...its over you have "liquidity moving no where...unless you can put the bullet to the head of a foreign power to buy the crap.hmmmm & that may be time to short that currency as this smart liquidity seeks furtile grounds...either gold swissys or agr.hmmmmm

treasuries are the indicator of confidence or foreign pressure to get sellout or owned leaders to buy the fiats....but this squeezes their own curr to run for the hills ...unless regulated..... so less regulated may be the best bet on both sides of this play...............as long as they have given the finger to the neocons or are...hint....neutral..& cannot be coerced.

Look for the liquidity in foreign oil and military bully buddies and the PPT and the hitmen are not far behind.....
push the poo in and the good stuff looks for Air...

What are Ben and Bush going to do next???place a exit guard it every bank checking for flight out???
Who knows ?nothing is out of the question for these traitors while the public still are OK about getting fleeced.

Will they allow the USD to become the next carry?
I wonder if Ben surfs shaddow stats or is believing his own lies??I doubt it he knows exactly whats up..and the sweat is pouring.

Bens favourite song apparently is "I'm the man that broke the bank at monte carlo"or filled it full of poo....but who cares paper for real wealth and the big boys are getting stronger by the day...Bens the patsay and maybe he knows maybe he doesn't....once you join the club...the only way out is a pair of cement galoshes...
Or maybe resigning along with shutting the doors of the fed.and bowing out...

but that will not happen....or will it???? that will require a ton of confidence and a very scared sheeple..looking out at the bleak streets and the finger from foreign debt buyers....when coercement dries up....the game is up....and that includes takers for treasury bonds...

shed the poop ...show us its got value and we will buy..
or print print print ,prop up the crap with devalued currancy everytime you do it...and then allow your buds to take over the pile rewarding them with more of our devalued savings for buy ups of real worth,flick the poop to fanny and freddy & the dumbed down public can deal with it with inflation and higher tax and Borrowing interst rates.Create bigger and bigger monopolies that then stem competition and screw us more....

Got to say I am sick of this criminal activity that is going on in broard day light.




I would like to talk about this......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"This week the Fed tried to reverse the plunge in asset prices by flooding the banking system with $200 billion of credit. Banks were allowed to turn their bad mortgage loans and other loans over to the Federal Reserve at par value (rather at just 20% "mark to market" prices). The Fed’s cover story is that this infusion will enable the banks to resume lending to "get the economy moving again." But the banks are using the money to bet against the dollar. They are borrowing from the Fed at a low interest rate, and buying foreign euro-denominated bonds yielding a higher interest rate–and in the process, making a currency gain as the euro rises against dollar-denominated assets. The Fed thus is subsidizing capital flight, exacerbating inflation by making the price of imports (headed by oil and other raw materials) more expensive. These commodities are not more expensive to European buyers, but only to buyers paying in depreciated dollars.""

The banksters are "buying foreign euro-denominated bonds" during an economic crisis in America? Whoa. Now there’s an interesting take on patriotism

Buy as much gold as you get your hands on.and NOT pool.
TJ:wink:
These scum bag Traitors we have to get them out.The Rockefellers Rothchilds & all the Cenrtal Bankers are Killing us and Our Country And our Great Constitutional Repablic..they are Traitors and parasites.

The Elite who Own & Run Everything in this Country are selling it out from under us.
There is no battle over NAFTA,
Thats A Dame Charade...Just Like the Elections are a charade.
AND TOMMORROW THEY ARE SELLING YOUR LIFE OUT FROM
UNDER YOU...
AND DONT YOU EVER FORGET IT EITHER.!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Fl9ZVJ7B8

Of course do your own due diligence.
Live Think & grow a pair.

[UberNoob]

Hiiiiilarious

[Twisted Avatar]

Well dam..... how the hell you just gonna come to site and start sniping at everybody?


Before one is to engage in war......KNOW THE ENEMY....or the battle is lost before it has begun.... sun tzu


You have offened a few people that I personally know to be well grounded folk and I dont take kindly to a "unknown" marching into this forum disrespecting my sisters and brothers you will catch more hell faster than you can put the flames out.


My foolish advice: It would best that you "start over" we dont take well to monday morning quaterbacks. This is a great forum with lots to offer but that is based upon WHAT YOU GIVE IN EXCHANGE.


Take it for what it's worth

T

[Thomas Jefferson]

Please offer any rationale that would support a new global chain of supply and demand
that will fill the diminishing demand from the US.

Thanks
TJ
If you have nothing to offer please do not offer it...if you do not agree just
debate me or offer rationale.
Baby talk & attacks are for the clueless.
if you are looking for something of quality & goodness go to Kitco..where intelligence & socialist
compliance is condoned & applauded...
The mods will keep you safe ....
I dont want to appeal to "everyone"--only those with brains.
By the way I am a smoker and condone abortions.
And in Heaven we all smoke..thats why its Heaven!!
And Jimy Hendrix plays like hes on Fire.

[Thomas Jefferson]

Well dam..... how the hell you just gonna come to site and start sniping at everybody?


Before one is to engage in war......KNOW THE ENEMY....or the battle is lost before it has begun.... sun tzu


You have offened a few people that I personally know to be well grounded folk and I dont take kindly to a "unknown" marching into this forum disrespecting my sisters and brothers you will catch more hell faster than you can put the flames out.


My foolish advice: It would best that you "start over" we dont take well to monday morning quaterbacks. This is a great forum with lots to offer but that is based upon WHAT YOU GIVE IN EXCHANGE.


Take it for what it's worth

T

twisted ava you are Totally incorrect .
Cannada guerilla told me i was a no- all.i did not respond..
fire hole called asked me to post elsewhere..i said no....then he/she came back called me a loser and liar about me getting banned..infact I asked him to supply that evidence.
i have not heard from fire hole since because he is a liar !!!
hoot is in love with me & all the others...but i am easy
SO GET IT RIGHT !!!!THESE PEOPLE ATTACHED ME NOT ME THEM.!!!!
they attached me for nothing and should all grow up..I suspect that will not happen
without a lobotomy.



nothing
put up or shut up..
The Baby forums are open 24/7
When Free speech is fully restored boy you are going to have to employ
a theoropist full time.
I dont believe in being condescending like you ...
I will not treat you like idiots
do you want to be tickled ?or do you want to think...
you are making yourself quite obvious.
please Sir ,do not be Coy.... show me the money.
TJ:smokin:

[Thomas Jefferson]

To understand why the Fed has torn up the rule book, take a look at the latest Security and Exchange Commission filing by Bear Stearns. It contains a short table listing the broker's holding of derivatives contracts as of November 30 2007.

Bear Stearns had total positions of $13.4 trillion. This is greater than the US national income, or equal to a quarter of world GDP - at least in "notional" terms. The contracts were described as "swaps", "swaptions", "caps", "collars" and "floors". This heady edifice of new-fangled instruments was built on an asset base of $80bn at best.

On the other side of these contracts are banks, brokers, and hedge funds, linked in destiny by a nexus of interlocking claims. This is counterparty spaghetti. To make matters worse, Lehman Brothers, UBS, and Citigroup were all wobbling on the back foot as the hurricane hit.

"Twenty years ago the Fed would have let Bear Stearns go bust. "Now it is too interlinked to fail."






But JP Morgan is already up to its neck in this soup, with $77 trillion of contracts. It will now have $90 trillion on its books, a sixth of the global market.

Risk is being concentrated further. There are echoes of the old reinsurance chains at Lloyd's, but on a vaster scale.

The most neuralgic niche is the $45 trillion market for credit default swaps (CDS). These CDS swaps are a way of betting on the credit quality of companies without having to buy the underlying bonds, which are less liquid. They have long been the bête noire of New York Fed chief Timothy Geithner, alarmed that 10 banks make up 89 per cent of the contracts


For now the meltdown panic has subsided. Yet the hottest document flying around the City last week was a paper by Barclays Capital probing what might happen in a counterparty default.

It is not for bedtime reading. Direct losses from a CDS breakdown alone could be $80bn, but the potential risks are much greater.

In theory, the contracts are matching. One sides loses, the other gains, operating through a neutral counterparty (ie Bear Stearns). But if the system seizes up, the mechanism is not neutral at all. It becomes viciously one-sided.

"Upon the default of the counterparty, [traded] derivatives would be immediately repriced, with spreads widening dramatically," said the Barclays report

Hmmmmm
TJ:wink:

[Thomas Jefferson]

Nick Carey
Reuters
March 24, 2008

CLEVELAND (Reuters) - As hundreds of thousands of American home owners fall behind on their mortgage payments, more people are turning to short-term loans with sky-high interest rates just to get by.

While hard figures are hard to come by, evidence from nonprofit credit and mortgage counselors suggests that the number of people using these so-called “pay day loans” is growing as the U.S. housing crisis deepens, a negative sign for economic recovery.

“We’re hearing from around the country that many folks are buried deep in pay day loan debts as well as struggling with their mortgage payments,” said Uriah King, a policy associate at the Center for Responsible Lending (CRL).

A pay day loan is typically for a few hundred dollars, with a term of two weeks, and an interest rate as high as 800 percent. The average borrower ends up paying back $793 for a $325 loan, according to the Center.

The Center also estimates pay day lenders issued more than $28 billion in loans in 2005, the latest available figures.

And the middle Class of America getting eatin from the
top and the bottom.
This society is Mentally ill.....!!!!!!!!!!
Get mad get Real mad...these Traitors in the White House need to be Strung up...
And the Central Bankers Flogged.....Rockefeller and the Roths and the Elites are scum!!!


TJ:smokin:

[Camp Bassfish]

What an a-hole.:thumpdown

[Silver Uno]

All the world needs now is another Ayn Rand troglodyte. Jellooo! it does not matter what system runs the govt it is the boobs that run it! Who ever gots the gold rules. No matter what is in control the sheep will always get sheared. If everyone becomes a wolf everyone will starve or become cannibals. Don't get yer panties in a knot if the sheep start to take care of themselves.:rant:

[Canadian-guerilla]

To understand why the Fed has torn up the rule book, take a look at the latest Security and Exchange Commission filing by Bear Stearns. It contains a short table listing the broker's holding of derivatives contracts as of November 30 2007.

Bear Stearns had total positions of $13.4 trillion. This is greater than the US national income, or equal to a quarter of world GDP - at least in "notional" terms. The contracts were described as "swaps", "swaptions", "caps", "collars" and "floors". This heady edifice of new-fangled instruments was built on an asset base of $80bn at best.

On the other side of these contracts are banks, brokers, and hedge funds, linked in destiny by a nexus of interlocking claims. This is counterparty spaghetti. To make matters worse, Lehman Brothers, UBS, and Citigroup were all wobbling on the back foot as the hurricane hit.

"Twenty years ago the Fed would have let Bear Stearns go bust. "Now it is too interlinked to fail."






But JP Morgan is already up to its neck in this soup, with $77 trillion of contracts. It will now have $90 trillion on its books, a sixth of the global market.

Risk is being concentrated further. There are echoes of the old reinsurance chains at Lloyd's, but on a vaster scale.

The most neuralgic niche is the $45 trillion market for credit default swaps (CDS). These CDS swaps are a way of betting on the credit quality of companies without having to buy the underlying bonds, which are less liquid. They have long been the bête noire of New York Fed chief Timothy Geithner, alarmed that 10 banks make up 89 per cent of the contracts


For now the meltdown panic has subsided. Yet the hottest document flying around the City last week was a paper by Barclays Capital probing what might happen in a counterparty default.

It is not for bedtime reading. Direct losses from a CDS breakdown alone could be $80bn, but the potential risks are much greater.

In theory, the contracts are matching. One sides loses, the other gains, operating through a neutral counterparty (ie Bear Stearns). But if the system seizes up, the mechanism is not neutral at all. It becomes viciously one-sided.

"Upon the default of the counterparty, [traded] derivatives would be immediately repriced, with spreads widening dramatically," said the Barclays report

Hmmmmm
TJ:wink:


regarding your post # 24

did you write that yourself or cut and paste ?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/03/23/ccfed123.xml

[Smaug]

Some basic communciation skills would go a long way to getting your message across. Self-aggrandizing will not help your cause. Even if you are knowledgable, who will listen?

[4dabopper]

“Abandon all hope ye who enter here.” – Dante Alighieri, The Inferno, Canto III, ca 1300 AD.