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02-13-2006, 05:41 PM
MARCH 23, 2005. Subscribers to my PREMIUM CONTENT know that my interviews posted there with Ellis Medavoy, retired propaganda mad genius for "the bad guys," are among the most explosive and revealing commentaries ever done on propaganda and PR.
I want to print a new interview with Ellis here on the free page, because it gives you a sense of what unique angles the man has on mind control. Mass mind control.
We also touch on the Terri Schiavo case.
Before we began, Ellis said, "You should know that I've been able to put all this together after reading your articles on STORY. Tell them that."
Q: You wanted to talk about mind control.
A: What else is there? It's what's happening.
Q: There's freedom, too.
A: Yeah, but to get there, you need to understand the other side of the coin. I want to take off from your recent articles on STORY. You've uncovered some very important information on how the mind works and how important STORY is in the scheme of things. We're always telling ourselves stories. Because of that, PR people can plug in and superimpose their own myths and tales---and then those false stories run right into our minds and we gobble them up and use them to decide what's real and what isn't. Everyone loves a good story that has drama and conflict and so on. PR uses that like crazy. PR is really an offshoot of organized religion. PR learned from religion, and learned from political tyrants who used organized religion to keep themselves in power. They all told stories.
Q: Major media are PR.
A: On all the important points, media are indistinguishable from PR. That's where I want to go. What happens when you read about a really hot event in the press, an event that has everyone up in arms?
Q: Like the Terri Schiavo case?
A: Yes. There are always facts that are kept out of it, right? Key facts that would change perception if they were included.
Q: Like the fact that Terri is conscious.
A: Right. If you enter that fact into the equation, the whole story changes. Everything changes. The bubble explodes.
Q: True.
A: Well, the people who are spinning this story want to tell it in a certain way, right? They want it to be about the right to live, the right to die, the expert doctors' opinions, the courts deliberating and so on. The tragedy for the family. They want it to be about the right of the federal government to interfere. Or not. All of that. But it's basically yet another step in a much larger agenda to get the public to believe in euthanasia. You could say it's another baby step in the direction of the Nazi agenda. Or more widely, the eugenics agenda. All that feeds into this story and the way it's being told. Right?
Q: Yeah.
A: But if the one fact you interjected---that Terri is conscious---became the major thing, the whopping big nasty thing that blew up in everyone's face, then what? Then the WAY THE STORY IS BEING TOLD would smash into a hundred pieces. The whole air would go out of that balloon. The story would suddenly be about something entirely different. So that one fact you mentioned has to be kept in the background. It has to be ruled out. If she's conscious, the whole diagnosis of Persistent Vegetative State [PVS] is wrong. And under no circumstances can she be killed. PVS is the legal basis on which she's being killed.
Q: I just posted a piece about this.
A: Okay. The point I want to make is, in every huge story that captures the public's attention through the press, there are ALWAYS key facts that are left out. Following me? And those key facts are left out and squashed for a purpose. Those facts would destroy the WAY THE STORY IS BEING TOLD. Right? I mean, people have to understand this. It's all about story, story that is being invented in a certain way and fed directly into the mind to achieve an aim. In order for that kind of mind control to happen, you have to omit key facts that would otherwise show the story is a fairy tale. The story is really a myth. It's a main principle of propaganda. Invent a story. People want stories. They're addicted to stories. PR IS story. Get that story fed into the mind. Tell it a certain way for a reason. Bury the key facts that would make the public doubt the way the story is being told.
Q: One story would be the Oklahoma bombing.
A: Yes. No way a truck with a bomb of any size could have caused the particular pattern of destruction that was laid on the Murrah Building on April 19, 1995. That's a fact. [See my book, Oklahoma Bombing: The Suppressed Truth, posted on PREMIUM CONTENT.] But if THAT simple fact about the truck bomb becomes wide public knowledge, the whole PR STORY about the bombing collapses. It does. It goes right down the drain. The AGENDA fails, too. The agenda, in part, was, DEVELOP GREAT SYMPATHY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. It was a government building. People were killed. Children were killed. The agenda needed a big story told in a certain way to accomplish its goal. If you get out there in a major way with HEY, THIS WAS A VERY SOPHISTICATED OPERATION DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE A TRUCK BOMB (THE COVER) AND IT WAS REALLY SPECIALISTS WHO PLANTED CHARGES ON THE INTERIOR COLUMNS...and so on, you're into QUITE ANOTHER STORY.
Q: What you're saying about PR stories and omitted key facts---we could go right down the line on major events. 9/11, AIDS, suppressed cancer cures, the war in Iraq, ADHD, pharmaceutical medicine. There are hundreds of these.
A: Exactly. And in each case the pattern is the same. Omit key facts SO A STORY CAN BE INVENTED AND FED DIRECTLY INTO THE MIND TO ACHIEVE AN AGENDA. With me so far?
Q: Yes.
A: Okay, now. As all these massive stories are invented and fed into the mind, the public has two basic reactions. The first reaction is to swallow the things whole. Mind control. Swallow the story, subliminally accept the agenda behind the story.
Q: What's the second reaction?
A: Doubt. A little bit of doubt around the edges. People get a slightly queasy feeling that something isn't right. This is not conscious, but at some level, lots and lots and lots of people are doubting the way the story is being presented and sold. They may not be able to identify the key facts that were left out, but on a feeling level, they are having a problem. Not maybe a huge problem, but a wiggle. A doubt. A question. A twitch. You sometimes see this reflected in polls that ask questions about confidence in media and confidence in government. When you ask the poll questions this way, you get huge percentages expressing doubt. People can't point to specifics, but they aren't really happy. They're weirded out. They sense these key facts in stories are being hidden from them. They sense that the PR story is wrong. And I want you to understand that I'm talking about the subconscious level here. That's important. Very important. At that level, which doesn't get expressed often, but is bottled up, something is going on. In fact, you can see most people responding to this bottled up situation that exists within themselves. Outwardly, they're very definite, too definite. They're taking sides on this issue and that issue, and they're oversimplifying everything---which is a sure sign that at some unconscious level they are confused and dissatisfied and pissed off and and in a muddle.
Q: Right. I know what you mean. Why is that important?
A: I'm getting to it. Hundreds and hundreds of these PR propaganda stories are entering the mind all the time, through the press. Through TV. Subconsciously, doubt and confusion are building up, because at that level, people know something is wrong. BUT PEOPLE FEEL THERE IS NO WAY TO EXPRESS THOSE SUBCONSCIOUS FEELINGS. It doesn't take a sophisticated Freudian analysis to realize this. It's PR 101. Fish are swimming below the surface of people's minds. That's all. And people don't really understand these fish, these feelings. They can't describe them. They pretend they aren't there---which makes the pressure build up even more. But there is no outlet for most people. How could there be? There is only ignorance and, underneath that, the doubt and the confusion and the anger and the rest of it. See? Now we come to the trump card. The million-dollar fact. The big one.
Q: Which is?
A: What do people do in a situation like this? No exit. No way out. No outlet to express those feelings. Pressure.
Q: Over time they become passive.
A: Bang. That's the big one. Most people just shut down. They see no other solution. The best thing to do is become passive. But there is one more thing. Review what I've been saying. WHAT ARE PEOPLE REALLY BECOMNG PASSIVE ABOUT? How does that mechanism work in practice? People are being fed these PR propaganda stories day after day after day. They recognize, on a subliminal level, that something is wrong. They're all bottled up. They opt for the only solution they can see themselves enacting: passivity. But what do they then become passive about? Do they just become passive about PR and propaganda? No. They can't really work with that. It's too specific. It doesn't, on a subconscious level, provide satisfaction to think, "I'm now going to be passive about propaganda." And most people still don't even recognize, in any significant way, that propaganda exists, is being intentionally shaped for them. That's too sophisticated. To recognize propaganda is probably going to shove you into ACTION. If you're going to become really PASSIVE, you want to pick something much more USEFUL to be passive about, because then you can sink into the mud. Way down there. You can really become a zero inside. Do you get this? A person who wants to surrender, give up, become passive, wants to be passive about something that is really going to shove him into a long sleep. That is the key. That is the sentence to engrave in stone. Even when we're on the verge of surrendering and throwing the towel in, we're smart enough to know we have to have some object we can pick out to be passive about. An object that is going to WORK, that is going to SEND US right down there into the bottom of the sea with the sleeping sand. And there is one thing. There is an object that fits perfectly with everything I've been spelling out. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Q: Yeah. I'm catching on.
A: BE PASSIVE ABOUT ALL STORIES. That's the magic key. If you can be passive and immune to ALL STORIES, you can become Passive. Because why? Because STORIES, MY FRIEND, AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT, ARE THE VERY LIFEBLOOD OF EXISTENCE. THEY'RE WHAT KEEP US GOING. You want to shut down and turn out all the lights? Become immune and passive to stories in general. Then you're there. You're a dead crab, a dead stone on the bottom of the ocean.
Q: After all, people are being fed these PR propaganda press stories all the time. So if they're building up pressure and anger and fear and confusion about THAT, they have a very handy target right there.
A: Precisely. "I just hate these damn stories. Stories are what get me into a state where I feel weird. The hell with stories."
Q: All stories.
A: All stories. And with that, they've cut themselves off from the energy and the lifeblood that makes life worth living. Which is the definition of passivity.
Q: And the final kicker is? I see it. I'll let you tell it.
A: After that point, after they've crossed that hellish line, THEY CAN'T TELL STORIES OF THEIR OWN ANYMORE.
Q: And THAT is the final effect stemming from all these stories coming into them from the press---all that PR and propaganda.
A: Yeah. And as you've been pointing out in your articles, stories told by us create our lives. We're living out the stories we've told ourselves. You want a new life, tell a new story. Stories are the engines we use to invent new lives. Stories create civilizations.
Q: Are you saying that the overall impact of media is the SOLE reason people decide, ultimately, to reject all stories and tell no new stories?
A: No, but it sure as hell helps. And at the highest levels of power and control---by which I mean the people who direct the real course of history---and I'm not just talking about Earth history---there is the knowledge that, if you can get people to stop telling new and great stories, you have them. They're yours. Knowing that, you can develop plans toward achieving that end. You can tip the scales. You can work ops that are very concealed, that have smaller and more obvious objectives. But all the while, you're working toward this one thing: get people to stop telling themselves new and great stories. That's the final secret of ALL control. Why? Because it's aimed at the core of what we are all about. This is what I would call UNIVERSAL MIND CONTROL.
end of interview
This interview forms yet one more piece of background for my upcoming PARANORMAL WRITING PROJECT. The workshop is nearly completely designed, and quite soon I'll be posting the details. More than you know, I thank you for your support. The research leading to this interview, and leading to my recent articles on STORY, the paranormal, the space-time continuum, and imagination, has been a long time coming. Forty years have passed since I first picked up a book by Wilhelm Reich in New York and thought to myself, "Things are REALLY not what they seem." Forty-three years have passed since the day I did my first painting in the kitchen of an apartment around the corner from the Guggenheim Museum in New York, and realized that things could be quite, quite amazing, if I invented and just kept on inventing. If you want to take a further step in terms of assistance, signing up as a subscriber to PREMIUM CONTENT would help a great, great deal.
JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com (http://www.nomorefakenews.com)
I want to print a new interview with Ellis here on the free page, because it gives you a sense of what unique angles the man has on mind control. Mass mind control.
We also touch on the Terri Schiavo case.
Before we began, Ellis said, "You should know that I've been able to put all this together after reading your articles on STORY. Tell them that."
Q: You wanted to talk about mind control.
A: What else is there? It's what's happening.
Q: There's freedom, too.
A: Yeah, but to get there, you need to understand the other side of the coin. I want to take off from your recent articles on STORY. You've uncovered some very important information on how the mind works and how important STORY is in the scheme of things. We're always telling ourselves stories. Because of that, PR people can plug in and superimpose their own myths and tales---and then those false stories run right into our minds and we gobble them up and use them to decide what's real and what isn't. Everyone loves a good story that has drama and conflict and so on. PR uses that like crazy. PR is really an offshoot of organized religion. PR learned from religion, and learned from political tyrants who used organized religion to keep themselves in power. They all told stories.
Q: Major media are PR.
A: On all the important points, media are indistinguishable from PR. That's where I want to go. What happens when you read about a really hot event in the press, an event that has everyone up in arms?
Q: Like the Terri Schiavo case?
A: Yes. There are always facts that are kept out of it, right? Key facts that would change perception if they were included.
Q: Like the fact that Terri is conscious.
A: Right. If you enter that fact into the equation, the whole story changes. Everything changes. The bubble explodes.
Q: True.
A: Well, the people who are spinning this story want to tell it in a certain way, right? They want it to be about the right to live, the right to die, the expert doctors' opinions, the courts deliberating and so on. The tragedy for the family. They want it to be about the right of the federal government to interfere. Or not. All of that. But it's basically yet another step in a much larger agenda to get the public to believe in euthanasia. You could say it's another baby step in the direction of the Nazi agenda. Or more widely, the eugenics agenda. All that feeds into this story and the way it's being told. Right?
Q: Yeah.
A: But if the one fact you interjected---that Terri is conscious---became the major thing, the whopping big nasty thing that blew up in everyone's face, then what? Then the WAY THE STORY IS BEING TOLD would smash into a hundred pieces. The whole air would go out of that balloon. The story would suddenly be about something entirely different. So that one fact you mentioned has to be kept in the background. It has to be ruled out. If she's conscious, the whole diagnosis of Persistent Vegetative State [PVS] is wrong. And under no circumstances can she be killed. PVS is the legal basis on which she's being killed.
Q: I just posted a piece about this.
A: Okay. The point I want to make is, in every huge story that captures the public's attention through the press, there are ALWAYS key facts that are left out. Following me? And those key facts are left out and squashed for a purpose. Those facts would destroy the WAY THE STORY IS BEING TOLD. Right? I mean, people have to understand this. It's all about story, story that is being invented in a certain way and fed directly into the mind to achieve an aim. In order for that kind of mind control to happen, you have to omit key facts that would otherwise show the story is a fairy tale. The story is really a myth. It's a main principle of propaganda. Invent a story. People want stories. They're addicted to stories. PR IS story. Get that story fed into the mind. Tell it a certain way for a reason. Bury the key facts that would make the public doubt the way the story is being told.
Q: One story would be the Oklahoma bombing.
A: Yes. No way a truck with a bomb of any size could have caused the particular pattern of destruction that was laid on the Murrah Building on April 19, 1995. That's a fact. [See my book, Oklahoma Bombing: The Suppressed Truth, posted on PREMIUM CONTENT.] But if THAT simple fact about the truck bomb becomes wide public knowledge, the whole PR STORY about the bombing collapses. It does. It goes right down the drain. The AGENDA fails, too. The agenda, in part, was, DEVELOP GREAT SYMPATHY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. It was a government building. People were killed. Children were killed. The agenda needed a big story told in a certain way to accomplish its goal. If you get out there in a major way with HEY, THIS WAS A VERY SOPHISTICATED OPERATION DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE A TRUCK BOMB (THE COVER) AND IT WAS REALLY SPECIALISTS WHO PLANTED CHARGES ON THE INTERIOR COLUMNS...and so on, you're into QUITE ANOTHER STORY.
Q: What you're saying about PR stories and omitted key facts---we could go right down the line on major events. 9/11, AIDS, suppressed cancer cures, the war in Iraq, ADHD, pharmaceutical medicine. There are hundreds of these.
A: Exactly. And in each case the pattern is the same. Omit key facts SO A STORY CAN BE INVENTED AND FED DIRECTLY INTO THE MIND TO ACHIEVE AN AGENDA. With me so far?
Q: Yes.
A: Okay, now. As all these massive stories are invented and fed into the mind, the public has two basic reactions. The first reaction is to swallow the things whole. Mind control. Swallow the story, subliminally accept the agenda behind the story.
Q: What's the second reaction?
A: Doubt. A little bit of doubt around the edges. People get a slightly queasy feeling that something isn't right. This is not conscious, but at some level, lots and lots and lots of people are doubting the way the story is being presented and sold. They may not be able to identify the key facts that were left out, but on a feeling level, they are having a problem. Not maybe a huge problem, but a wiggle. A doubt. A question. A twitch. You sometimes see this reflected in polls that ask questions about confidence in media and confidence in government. When you ask the poll questions this way, you get huge percentages expressing doubt. People can't point to specifics, but they aren't really happy. They're weirded out. They sense these key facts in stories are being hidden from them. They sense that the PR story is wrong. And I want you to understand that I'm talking about the subconscious level here. That's important. Very important. At that level, which doesn't get expressed often, but is bottled up, something is going on. In fact, you can see most people responding to this bottled up situation that exists within themselves. Outwardly, they're very definite, too definite. They're taking sides on this issue and that issue, and they're oversimplifying everything---which is a sure sign that at some unconscious level they are confused and dissatisfied and pissed off and and in a muddle.
Q: Right. I know what you mean. Why is that important?
A: I'm getting to it. Hundreds and hundreds of these PR propaganda stories are entering the mind all the time, through the press. Through TV. Subconsciously, doubt and confusion are building up, because at that level, people know something is wrong. BUT PEOPLE FEEL THERE IS NO WAY TO EXPRESS THOSE SUBCONSCIOUS FEELINGS. It doesn't take a sophisticated Freudian analysis to realize this. It's PR 101. Fish are swimming below the surface of people's minds. That's all. And people don't really understand these fish, these feelings. They can't describe them. They pretend they aren't there---which makes the pressure build up even more. But there is no outlet for most people. How could there be? There is only ignorance and, underneath that, the doubt and the confusion and the anger and the rest of it. See? Now we come to the trump card. The million-dollar fact. The big one.
Q: Which is?
A: What do people do in a situation like this? No exit. No way out. No outlet to express those feelings. Pressure.
Q: Over time they become passive.
A: Bang. That's the big one. Most people just shut down. They see no other solution. The best thing to do is become passive. But there is one more thing. Review what I've been saying. WHAT ARE PEOPLE REALLY BECOMNG PASSIVE ABOUT? How does that mechanism work in practice? People are being fed these PR propaganda stories day after day after day. They recognize, on a subliminal level, that something is wrong. They're all bottled up. They opt for the only solution they can see themselves enacting: passivity. But what do they then become passive about? Do they just become passive about PR and propaganda? No. They can't really work with that. It's too specific. It doesn't, on a subconscious level, provide satisfaction to think, "I'm now going to be passive about propaganda." And most people still don't even recognize, in any significant way, that propaganda exists, is being intentionally shaped for them. That's too sophisticated. To recognize propaganda is probably going to shove you into ACTION. If you're going to become really PASSIVE, you want to pick something much more USEFUL to be passive about, because then you can sink into the mud. Way down there. You can really become a zero inside. Do you get this? A person who wants to surrender, give up, become passive, wants to be passive about something that is really going to shove him into a long sleep. That is the key. That is the sentence to engrave in stone. Even when we're on the verge of surrendering and throwing the towel in, we're smart enough to know we have to have some object we can pick out to be passive about. An object that is going to WORK, that is going to SEND US right down there into the bottom of the sea with the sleeping sand. And there is one thing. There is an object that fits perfectly with everything I've been spelling out. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Q: Yeah. I'm catching on.
A: BE PASSIVE ABOUT ALL STORIES. That's the magic key. If you can be passive and immune to ALL STORIES, you can become Passive. Because why? Because STORIES, MY FRIEND, AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT, ARE THE VERY LIFEBLOOD OF EXISTENCE. THEY'RE WHAT KEEP US GOING. You want to shut down and turn out all the lights? Become immune and passive to stories in general. Then you're there. You're a dead crab, a dead stone on the bottom of the ocean.
Q: After all, people are being fed these PR propaganda press stories all the time. So if they're building up pressure and anger and fear and confusion about THAT, they have a very handy target right there.
A: Precisely. "I just hate these damn stories. Stories are what get me into a state where I feel weird. The hell with stories."
Q: All stories.
A: All stories. And with that, they've cut themselves off from the energy and the lifeblood that makes life worth living. Which is the definition of passivity.
Q: And the final kicker is? I see it. I'll let you tell it.
A: After that point, after they've crossed that hellish line, THEY CAN'T TELL STORIES OF THEIR OWN ANYMORE.
Q: And THAT is the final effect stemming from all these stories coming into them from the press---all that PR and propaganda.
A: Yeah. And as you've been pointing out in your articles, stories told by us create our lives. We're living out the stories we've told ourselves. You want a new life, tell a new story. Stories are the engines we use to invent new lives. Stories create civilizations.
Q: Are you saying that the overall impact of media is the SOLE reason people decide, ultimately, to reject all stories and tell no new stories?
A: No, but it sure as hell helps. And at the highest levels of power and control---by which I mean the people who direct the real course of history---and I'm not just talking about Earth history---there is the knowledge that, if you can get people to stop telling new and great stories, you have them. They're yours. Knowing that, you can develop plans toward achieving that end. You can tip the scales. You can work ops that are very concealed, that have smaller and more obvious objectives. But all the while, you're working toward this one thing: get people to stop telling themselves new and great stories. That's the final secret of ALL control. Why? Because it's aimed at the core of what we are all about. This is what I would call UNIVERSAL MIND CONTROL.
end of interview
This interview forms yet one more piece of background for my upcoming PARANORMAL WRITING PROJECT. The workshop is nearly completely designed, and quite soon I'll be posting the details. More than you know, I thank you for your support. The research leading to this interview, and leading to my recent articles on STORY, the paranormal, the space-time continuum, and imagination, has been a long time coming. Forty years have passed since I first picked up a book by Wilhelm Reich in New York and thought to myself, "Things are REALLY not what they seem." Forty-three years have passed since the day I did my first painting in the kitchen of an apartment around the corner from the Guggenheim Museum in New York, and realized that things could be quite, quite amazing, if I invented and just kept on inventing. If you want to take a further step in terms of assistance, signing up as a subscriber to PREMIUM CONTENT would help a great, great deal.
JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com (http://www.nomorefakenews.com)