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mactheknf
12-26-2007, 07:43 AM
Anybody out there want to take the Christmas Challenge?

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showpost.php?p=889178&postcount=590

Sure.

The youtube video you provide proposed that WTC7 fell FASTER than FreeFall velocity.

The big problem is the resolution of WTC7, with higher resolution we can see the faster than freefall myth is just that, a myth.

From one of your fellow CD/CT web sites.

"The rightmost column gives the free-fall distances minus the facade displacements. The differences are within the estimated margin of error for the facade displacement measurements for all but the first and final frames. This shows that the facade of WTC 7 accelerated downward at very CLOSE TO THE RATE of free-fall in at least its first three seconds of descent."

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/anal...tc7/speed.html




Basically it was taken from the same camera angle, maybe the same vid.

Not perfect analysis but damn close with about a 3 ft error margin for elevation.

The results are;


WTC7

total sample frames - 8

collapse time - 4.0 seconds

displacement floors - 14.2

distance traveled - 170.4 ft.



FREE FALL SPEED

Collapse time required - 3.35 seconds

distance traveled - 179.6 ft.

additional distance required to travel in order to obtain free fall velocity +9.2




Not only does it NOT make it to FASTER than FREEFALL as your video claims, it doesn't even make it to FREEFALL velocity.


Another CD/CT Holy Grail bites the dust.

Kahlil Gibran
12-26-2007, 08:09 AM
Sure.

38382

:haha: Yeah...let's just buy the Official Story!

mactheknf
12-26-2007, 06:16 PM
It's from one of your favorite 911 CD theory sources, genius.

Hello, is there anyone home ?

Pax
12-26-2007, 06:18 PM
And they accuse us of not reading the links they provide. Ouch.

JoeLuvsSeabridge
12-26-2007, 11:41 PM
OMG, you guys are soooo hilarious. I totally agree with what you stand for but (come on??? LOL)



And they accuse us of not reading the links they provide. Ouch.

rodin
01-05-2008, 07:31 PM
And they accuse us of not reading the links they provide. Ouch.

Us????????????

rodin
01-05-2008, 07:32 PM
It's from one of your favorite 911 CD theory sources, genius.

Hello, is there anyone home ?

Actually I wasn't

Back from a fine hol in Scotland. Beer was consumed but no freefalling unlike WTC7. Don't worry you'll get yr reply once I settle back in here.

Christopher
01-07-2008, 08:33 PM
Former Communist Jew turned "right winger," Yale Law Graduate, with ties to the Mossad and the White House; Michael Medved, said on his radio show once that WTC 7 collapsed because it was splashed by Jet fuel from the impact of the planes when they hit the two towers.

He also said another time that we should nuke Russia.


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Christopher
01-07-2008, 08:41 PM
~Osama did it.~

Michael Chertoff


http://eyeball-series.org/chert/chert283.jpg

Christopher
01-07-2008, 08:43 PM
~Mooslims did it.~

Alan Dirtwitz

http://blog.mideastanalysis.org/wp-content/sz200_alan-dershowitz.jpg

Ben_Trovato
01-12-2008, 12:12 AM
The TV says 2 planes hit the towers, it must be true!:D

It really is brilliant how they control the media and how everyone trusts the media for their news sources. Whoever "they" is deserves more credit for not only pulling this off but creating the environment over the past 50 years where all people will do is talk about it on forums and take no action.

Sorry.. just a bit peeved they got away scot free.

Antonio
01-12-2008, 04:42 AM
My views on 911 are known here but here is my conspiracy theory.
THE TOWERS ARE STILL THERE! I`M FROM NYC AND I STILL PASS THEM EVERY DAY.STOP WATCHING TV!

Juristic Person
01-13-2008, 07:59 PM
The TV says 2 planes hit the towers, it must be true!:D

Do you think the planes did NOT hit the towers?

Awoke
01-13-2008, 10:57 PM
What brought the towers down?

The Trilateral commision, the BilderBergers and the CFR combined.

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Akula
01-13-2008, 11:00 PM
Interesting video here that demonstrates beyond any doubt that the videos of the south tower were manipulated for the sheep's pleasure....

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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rIC9K319J7A&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="355" width="425"></object>

Awoke
01-14-2008, 02:13 AM
Pretty awesome video. I've never heard of the Orb until now. Very suspicious...
Not that I wasn't sold on False flag from the start.

johngr
01-14-2008, 11:06 AM
Interesting video here that demonstrates beyond any doubt that the videos of the south tower were manipulated for the sheep's pleasure....

<object height="355" width="425">

<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rIC9K319J7A&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="355" width="425"></object>

Has anyone considered that they might have deliberately altered the videos, not to obscure what really happened (i. e. that a missle hit bldg 2 instead of a plane) but instead to create a red herring controversy, kind of like Silverstein's infamous and (seemingly deliberately) ambiguously incriminating statement on the PBS show? Maybe they took a plane out instead of putting one in.

rodin
01-14-2008, 11:30 AM
What brought the towers down???

Mafiya

rodin
01-14-2008, 11:45 AM
Interesting video here that demonstrates beyond any doubt that the videos of the south tower were manipulated for the sheep's pleasure....

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That is the most interesting thing I have seen in 2008

I had the NPT people down as disinfo...

How could they do it with so many eye witnessess? I know it happened fast but...

Mebbe they plant witnesses, and everyone else thinks they missed it. But amateur footage must exist in quantity...

Big Hmmm....

Akula
01-14-2008, 12:00 PM
That is the most interesting thing I have seen in 2008

I had the NPT people down as disinfo...

How could they do it with so many eye witnessess? I know it happened fast but...

Mebbe they plant witnesses, and everyone else thinks they missed it. But amateur footage must exist in quantity...

Big Hmmm....

Yeah I agree. Now the maker of this video does not promote the NPT. However the questions have to be asked why and how are they manipulating the video of the planes hitting the towers.

Juristic Person
01-14-2008, 10:45 PM
Interesting video here that demonstrates beyond any doubt that the videos of the south tower were manipulated for the sheep's pleasure....

<object height="355" width="425">

<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rIC9K319J7A&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="355" width="425"></object>

This video is a joke.

The camera angles are completely different. Also, the two cameras are at different distances from the buildings. The first video was NOT taken from a stationary object higher than the WTC. It was taken from a LOWER position and angled upward.

All you have to do is compare the position of the horizon in the two video's to know this.

In video 1, you can't even see the horizon, whereas in video 2, you can.

This video was good for a laugh. Nothing more.

Blue_pill_envy
01-14-2008, 11:21 PM
If the nose knew, I'd know.......

YouTube - SEPTEMBER CLUES ..Part 1.


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Akula
01-15-2008, 12:27 AM
This video is a joke.

The camera angles are completely different. Also, the two cameras are at different distances from the buildings. The first video was NOT taken from a stationary object higher than the WTC. It was taken from a LOWER position and angled upward.

All you have to do is compare the position of the horizon in the two video's to know this.

In video 1, you can't even see the horizon, whereas in video 2, you can.

This video was good for a laugh. Nothing more.

You must be kidding right?

You are getting extremely desperate now. Everyone of your points was covered in the video. If the first camera was positioned lower than the top of the WTC how did it capture the rooftop? Was it magic? Where did the haze that obscured the horizon magically come from? :wink:

rodin
01-15-2008, 09:33 AM
Re THAT video

YouTube - WTC 2 crash - Live M*S*N*B*C shot (no audio)

http://www.contrarianthinker.com/NPT.htm

For once I agree with JP

Juristic Person
01-15-2008, 01:42 PM
You must be kidding right?

You are getting extremely desperate now. Everyone of your points was covered in the video. If the first camera was positioned lower than the top of the WTC how did it capture the rooftop? Was it magic?

I must be kidding!?? :haha:

Akula, YOU must be kidding!

If you step outside your front door and look up, you can't see the roof of your house.

But if you start backing away, eventually you will come a great enough distance from the house where you WILL be able to see the rooftop. Does this mean that you are at a position higher than the roof? NO!

But the video already covered this, right? :confused_ma:

Like I said, the video is a JOKE! :haha:

rodin
01-15-2008, 01:47 PM
I must be kidding!?? :haha:

Akula, YOU must be kidding!

If you step outside your front door and look up, you can't see the roof of your house.

But if you start backing away, eventually you will come a great enough distance from the house where you WILL be able to see the rooftop. Does this mean that you are at a position higher than the roof? NO!

But the video already covered this, right? :confused_ma:

Like I said, the video is a JOKE! :haha:

So is your explanation for how the towers were taken down.

Juristic Person
01-15-2008, 01:49 PM
So is your explanation for how the towers were taken down.

I'm glad you agree that the video presented by Akula is a joke.

rodin
01-15-2008, 02:00 PM
I'm glad you agree that the video presented by Akula is a joke.

I proved it was incorrect (whether joke, or something more sinister - a strawman) same as I, or any competent scientifically-aware person can prove WTC7 was demolished with prepositioned explosives which of course leads on to the fact that 911 was a false flag operation and the entire mainstream media is covering it up which of course leads one to investigate who controls the media and - guess what - same lot run the money system this site was set up to defend against.

Juristic Person
01-15-2008, 02:17 PM
....I, or any competent scientifically-aware person can prove WTC7 was demolished with prepositioned explosives...

Rodin,

Are you serious?? Really...do you have any idea what you are saying???

You are telling me that ANYONE who doesn't believe that WTC7 was "demolished with prepositioned explosives" in incompetent!

Ron Paul doesn't believe WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Is he incompetent too?

If you can PROVE that WTC7 was demolished with "prepositioned explosives", and any competent person can understand this, why is there still, after 6 years, only a very small select minority that believes this?

Why haven't you written your Congressmen? Why isn't your local media reporting on this breakthrough revelation by "scientifically aware, competent" Mr. Rodin?

The truth is, you have PROOF of NOTHING.

You are speculating and you are wrong. To make it worse, you are saying that anybody who disagrees with your speculation, is INCOMPETENT.

Jonas Parker
01-15-2008, 02:50 PM
I thought they came down when Rosie O'Donnel farted...