What brought the towers down???

[rodin]

Rodin,

Are you serious?? Really...do you have any idea what you are saying???

You are telling me that ANYONE who doesn't believe that WTC7 was "demolished with prepositioned explosives" in incompetent!

Ron Paul doesn't believe WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Is he incompetent too?

If you can PROVE that WTC7 was demolished with "prepositioned explosives", and any competent person can understand this, why is there still, after 6 years, only a very small select minority that believes this?

Why haven't you written your Congressmen? Why isn't your local media reporting on this breakthrough revelation by "scientifically aware, competent" Mr. Rodin?

The truth is, you have PROOF of NOTHING.

You are speculating and you are wrong. To make it worse, you are saying that anybody who disagrees with your speculation, is INCOMPETENT.

I called Ron Paul for not addressing 911 form the get-go. Maybe it is a political decision. I am sure neither you nor he are incompetent.

But the evidence is clear and unequivocable

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=215250

[johngr]

RFK said nothing on the campaign trail about the JFK assassination though it is clear that he suspected that the lone gunman official story was a cover-up. He knew if he brought that up prematurely, it would have torpedoed his campaign. If the press had thrown it in his face, he would have done just like Dr. Paul has done and astutely denied that he believed anything other than what the Warren Commission found.

[slvrbugjim]

RFK said nothing on the campaign trail about the JFK assassination though it is clear that he suspected that the lone gunman official story was a cover-up. He knew if he brought that up prematurely, it would have torpedoed his campaign. If the press had thrown it in his face, he would have done just like Dr. Paul has done and astutely denied that he believed anything other than what the Warren Commission found.

exactly so, in fact RFK was obsessed with his brothers death being a conspiracy as was John Jr.

[rodin]

RFK said nothing on the campaign trail about the JFK assassination though it is clear that he suspected that the lone gunman official story was a cover-up. He knew if he brought that up prematurely, it would have torpedoed his campaign. If the press had thrown it in his face, he would have done just like Dr. Paul has done and astutely denied that he believed anything other than what the Warren Commission found.

A very good point. Thx for bringing it up.

[rodin]

Handguns encased in LAVA (yes LAVA) from the World Trade Center

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/9-11guns/

So the answer is - Micronukes of the sort used at Bali and descibed by Joe Vialls. I was suspicious but now there can be little doubt. The copius water washing (and possible weather modification to bring heavy rains following) to wash away tell-tale residue

http://www.vialls.com/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm

People just use your eyes to see through the lies

[Angra Mania]

Handguns encased in LAVA (yes LAVA) from the World Trade Center

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/9-11guns/

Why did they fail at blowing up WTC6 Rodin.

I await your reply.

[rodin]

More evidence micronukes used

http://codshit.blogspot.com/2002/11/bali-micro-nuke-army-officer-reported.html

[Juristic Person]

Handguns encased in LAVA (yes LAVA) from the World Trade Center

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/9-11guns/

So the answer is - Micronukes of the sort used at Bali and descibed by Joe Vialls. I was suspicious but now there can be little doubt. The copius water washing (and possible weather modification to bring heavy rains following) to wash away tell-tale residue

The gun is covered in concrete, therefore, MICRONUKES brought down the WTC!!

Oh - and then "they" used top-secret weather modification technology to make it rain and wash away all the evidence.

You guys really believe this stuff? Unbelieveable.

[rodin]

The gun is covered in concrete, therefore, MICRONUKES brought down the WTC!!

Oh - and then "they" used top-secret weather modification technology to make it rain and wash away all the evidence.

You guys really believe this stuff? Unbelieveable.

Not so unbelievable.

here's the model T unclassified SADM (what's that stand for JP?) from half a century ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Atomic_Demolition_Munition

here's weather mod

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLC,GGLC:1970-01,GGLC:en&q=weather+modification+inc

none of what I suggest is implausible, aucontraire, it fits the FACTS

I wonder what the official Tel Aviv explanation for handguns encased in concrete is going to be...

[stillprepping]

Not only does it NOT make it to FASTER than FREEFALL as your video claims, it doesn't even make it to FREEFALL velocity.
anyone looking at the collapse shown in this video who does *not* believe that building fell AT LEAST at free-fall speeds has got a few toys in the attic. its simply not worth getting into debates about *IF* it collapsed in a free fall .. this is utterly obvious and needs no discussion.

if the [recorded] fact that the collapse was announced on major media TWENTY MINUTES BEFORE the collapse actually ocurred doesnt give people a hint .. they're beyond help.

YouTube - 9/11 Truth: Why Won't The Media Show World Trade Center 7?

Another CD/CT Holy Grail bites the dust.
not.

[stillprepping]

check out this italian video of #7, in particular the 2 massive explosions heard coming from #7 hours before its collapse.

remember, #7 - a STEEL BUILINDG - didnt experience anywhere NEAR the damage sustained by the other two towers, and yet emergency personnel began clearing the area early in the afternoon, telling people "its going to be brought down".



YouTube - "Seven is Exploding"

[bsdetector]

anyone looking at the collapse shown in this video who does *not* believe that building fell AT LEAST at free-fall speeds has got a few toys in the attic. its simply not worth getting into debates about *IF* it collapsed in a free fall .. this is utterly obvious and needs no discussion.

So anyone with a high speed camera cyborg eyeball with digital imaging would think it crazy ?

So what happened to your claim of FASTER THAN FREE FALL VELOCITY ???

if the [recorded] fact that the collapse was announced on major media TWENTY MINUTES BEFORE the collapse actually ocurred doesnt give people a hint .. they're beyond help.



Yeah and everyone knows the news reporters jumped the gun after being told by NYFD that WTC7 was coming down due to structural failure. A collapse zone was prepared by the NYFD/NYPD for the inevitable collapse.

So friggin' what ?

Your speculation is beyond help.

[GoldRocks]

Maybe the whole thing is just a gigantic insurance fraud with a great cover story. I remember seeing a show on tv a year or two ago, describing the towers construction, and a projected life span for them. If I remember correctly, the life span was almost up. Less than a decade away. Said something about having to demolish them because of support beams being stressed after that many years. Was expected to cost billions to do properly.

Makes ya wonder....


PS, too tired to read the whole 17 pages. If this was mentioned before then disregard.

[Mined Games]

Maybe the whole thing is just a gigantic insurance fraud with a great cover story. I remember seeing a show on tv a year or two ago, describing the towers construction, and a projected life span for them. If I remember correctly, the life span was almost up. Less than a decade away. Said something about having to demolish them because of support beams being stressed after that many years. Was expected to cost billions to do properly.

Makes ya wonder....


PS, too tired to read the whole 17 pages. If this was mentioned before then disregard.

Were you aware that Larry Silverstein bought the towers shortly before 9/11 and then proceeded to insure them against a terror attack? And then, lo and behold, he was able to collect double because the judges ruled there were two separate attacks. Insurance fraud played a central role in the story.

[Abouthadit]

Were you aware that Larry Silverstein bought the towers shortly before 9/11 and then proceeded to insure them against a terror attack? And then, lo and behold, he was able to collect double because the judges ruled there were two separate attacks. Insurance fraud played a central role in the story.

got links to confirm purchase date, ins co and amounts? Court case #?

[Juristic Person]

Were you aware that Larry Silverstein bought the towers shortly before 9/11 and then proceeded to insure them against a terror attack? And then, lo and behold, he was able to collect double because the judges ruled there were two separate attacks. Insurance fraud played a central role in the story.

1. Most major buildings in NYC were covered for terrorist attacks on or before 9/11.

2. If SIlverstein committed in insurance fraud, why didn't the insurance companies speak up? Are we to assume that Larry Silverstein paid off the Insurance compaines (with the money they gave him :confused_ma:) and paid off the judges, city officials and federal agents too?

The only place insurance fraud plays a role in the 9/11 story, is in the twoofer version.

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[Awoke]

I guess this must be an old thread, but all that poll indicates to me is that roughly 66% of the voting GIMmers are not retarded.

[grinningdog]

I guess this must be an old thread, but all that poll indicates to me is that roughly 66% of the voting GIMmers are not retarded.


I think you have that exactly backwards as shown by this post and most others.

[Malus]

:D

The only place insurance fraud plays a role in the 9/11 story, is in the twoofer version.

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I've followed and investigated both sides of this ongoing debate for years now. Gathering information and drawing my own conclusions. Going forward though, I need to ask you JP, does the government pay you by the hour or are you salaried? No seriously, people might listen to you more if you weren't so condescending. You're attitude and bullheadedness, not to mention the insults directed towards alternative theories shows a incredible lack of maturity. Why you feel a need to pound anyone that doesn't believe like you indicates a deep down irrational sense of inferiority. There's help available out there, you just need to ask. Also, enough of the "twoofer thing", it's so immature. :hahaha::sheep:

[Agamemnon]

:D

I've followed and investigated both sides of this ongoing debate for years now. Gathering information and drawing my own conclusions. Going forward though, I need to ask you JP, does the government pay you by the hour or are you salaried? No seriously, people might listen to you more if you weren't so condescending. You're attitude and bullheadedness, not to mention the insults directed towards alternative theories shows a incredible lack of maturity. Why you feel a need to pound anyone that doesn't believe like you indicates a deep down irrational sense of inferiority. There's help available out there, you just need to ask. Also, enough of the "twoofer thing", it's so immature. :hahaha::sheep:


And not one single reply to one single point of factual interest of the subject matter.

Just the usual, 'you're a government spy' or, your're a 'sheep' line.

Your cryptic level of maturity astounds me ...

[immanti]

:D

I've followed and investigated both sides of this ongoing debate for years now. Gathering information and drawing my own conclusions. Going forward though, I need to ask you JP, does the government pay you by the hour or are you salaried? No seriously, people might listen to you more if you weren't so condescending. You're attitude and bullheadedness, not to mention the insults directed towards alternative theories shows a incredible lack of maturity. Why you feel a need to pound anyone that doesn't believe like you indicates a deep down irrational sense of inferiority. There's help available out there, you just need to ask. Also, enough of the "twoofer thing", it's so immature.

Oh, the irony.

:haha:

[Veli Hopea]

Two questions:

1) How do they usually bring down such buildings?

2) What phenomenon, which in these three cases has been a popular explanation, had not brought down such building ever before?

[Buddha]

This has probably been discussed intensely, but since I am new to the discussion I'll ask. How did the buildings that were hit by planes collapse in their own footprints? Pancake theory?

If so, show me another example of a building such as that falling in its own foot print due to a "pancake" effect.

I have seen examples of buildings/sky scrapers being hit by planes but none fell, and definantly not straight down in it's own foot print.

[Awoke]

It's an obvious case of CD, Buddha. The agents are here to distract, belittle and attack anyone smart enough to see the obvious and not believe the lies.
Don't fall for it.
Any question you are considering asking has already been asked, and the agents have tried their best to discount and truth with teh use of government sponsored articles, quotes, writeup, studies, etc.

You're better off reading some older threads than trying to wade through hip-deep the bullshit that the shills spill around here.


Malus - Your post is bang-on.

[Juristic Person]

I've followed and investigated both sides of this ongoing debate for years now. Gathering information and drawing my own conclusions.

Yeah, sure.

So in other words, you've watch Loose Change, Loose Change "Revised Edition", and Loose Change "Ooops We Fvcked Up Again".

You didn't draw your own conclusions; you just bought into somebody elses.

Going forward though, I need to ask you JP, does the government pay you by the hour or are you salaried?

Contact the Special Access Program. :wink:

No seriously, people might listen to you more if you weren't so condescending.

I don't have an issue with people not listening to me. But what "people" do you think would listen to me more? Obviously you aren't one of them since you've already made up your mind. So who are you speaking for?

You're attitude and bullheadedness, not to mention the insults directed towards alternative theories shows a incredible lack of maturity.

Likewise, your name-calling and insults are a reflection of your own maturity level.

Why you feel a need to pound anyone that doesn't believe like you indicates a deep down irrational sense of inferiority. There's help available out there, you just need to ask.

Would you like to help me Malus? Really, I'm reaching out to you here. Please, solve my deep rooted problems. Please, Malus...


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[Mujahideen]

What brought the towers down???

Gravity

[Agamemnon]

This has probably been discussed intensely, but since I am new to the discussion I'll ask. How did the buildings that were hit by planes collapse in their own footprints? Pancake theory?

If so, show me another example of a building such as that falling in its own foot print due to a "pancake" effect.

I have seen examples of buildings/sky scrapers being hit by planes but none fell, and definantly not straight down in it's own foot print.


Here's a clue you missed ;

Not one buildinng on 9/11 fell "in its own footprint".

The effort of an original thought on the subject helps clarify the issue .... give it a try.

[learn2swim]

Here's a clue you missed ;

Not one buildinng on 9/11 fell "in its own footprint".

The effort of an original thought on the subject helps clarify the issue .... give it a try.

That's true, buildings don't have feet. They did vertically collapse in a fashion that's related to controlled demolitions.

[Agamemnon]

They did vertically collapse in a fashion that's related to controlled demolitions.


You mean collapse DOWN ?

As in towards the center gravitational point of the Earth ?

Or, are you going to squawk that same old parroted line about "faster than freefall"/"as fast as freefall"/"near free fall speed" ?

Or, are you going to point out all the "Squibs" that only show up AFTER the buildings begin to collapse ?


Or, are you going to put us to sleep by demonstrating your vast knowledge of the subject ... ?

[Buddha]

Here's a clue you missed ;

Not one buildinng on 9/11 fell "in its own footprint".

The effort of an original thought on the subject helps clarify the issue .... give it a try.

What a shill. Go take a bath, I hope your wife kills you while in it. :bath: