View Full Version : What brought the towers down???
MorganTheGoat
08-19-2009, 04:28 PM
Structural creep and fastener failure can be a reality bitch sometimes.
Could you explain what a steel moment frame is?
Could you explain what a steel moment frame is?
Sure, When there is not enough room for the shear wall, an engineer or architect must design a special frame, called a moment frame to resist the horizontal forces.
That's this way <------>
Has nothing to do with structural creep and fastener failure due to fires.
And, in the case of WTC7, the addition of several tons of debris crashing through it.
Lets play it again for the dedicated moonbats !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HLDgjYuRHk
honu5050
08-19-2009, 04:36 PM
da paytreeit ACT brought it ALL down ! :yes: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
MorganTheGoat
08-19-2009, 04:44 PM
Sure, When there is not enough room for the shear wall, an engineer or architect must design a special frame, called a moment frame to resist the horizontal forces.
That's this way <------>
Has nothing to do with structural creep and fastener failure due to fires.
And, in the case of WTC7, the addition of several tons of debris crashing through it.
"<------>" LOL! Inertia and gyration lost in that graphic.
"<------>" LOL! Inertia and gyration lost in that graphic.
Could you explain what a structural creep due to heat is?
MorganTheGoat
08-19-2009, 04:59 PM
It is steel passing through its' deformation stage towards its' yield point. I have the US steel manual if you want me to post a graph.
It is steel passing through its' deformation stage towards its' yield point. I have the US steel manual if you want me to post a graph.
Can if you want - documentation about WTC7 proves beyond a doubt that the building was suffering structural creep hours prior to collapse.
They knew it was coming down.
Wow, a firefighter just knew it was coming down, where did he get his structural engineering degree? K-Mart?
LOL, you seem to be about the third Halophyte replacement.
documentation about WTC7 proves beyond a doubt that the building was suffering structural creep hours prior to collapse.
What documentation? Is there an NIST report yet?
Ragnarok
08-19-2009, 08:07 PM
This just in fyi fwiw...
http://www.newschief.com/article/20090812/NEWS/908125031/1014/OPINION?Title=Cause-of-destruction-of-WTC-discovered
R.
Wow, a firefighter just knew it was coming down, where did he get his structural engineering degree? K-Mart?
What documentation? Is there an NIST report yet?
LOL, you seem to be the 169th reincarnation of selective memory loss.
Try reading the fire dept transcripts / communications of that day.
(you might think after eight years they could learn to research something without someone holding their hand ... )
Malus
08-19-2009, 11:15 PM
LOL, you seem to be the 169th reincarnation of selective memory loss.
Try reading the fire dept transcripts / communications of that day.
(you might think after eight years they could learn to research something without someone holding their hand ... )
You'd think after eight years, you'd find something better to do, troll.
PatColo
08-19-2009, 11:29 PM
Firefighters For 9/11 Truth (http://firefightersfor911truth.org/)
"An Appeal to Firefighters, Present and Past
Fellow Firefighters, A great tragedy befell our community on September 11, 2001, an unprecedented 343 deaths in the line of duty. As horrible as that toll is, if there were a rational explanation for it, we could accept it and mourn. We all understood the risk we accepted when we took the oath of office, that chance might cut short our lives when we placed ourselves in harm’s way in the public’s service. This is what we are paid for and it is our honor. However, in short, the official explanation of the events of that day are not only insufficient, they are fantastic and cannot bear rational examination. " more (http://firefightersfor911truth.org)...
NYC Firefighters say 9/11 WTC collapse seemed like controlled demolition (30 seconds):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2032865563019209801
honu5050
08-20-2009, 01:43 AM
a degree via K MART .....who'ed a tought. the pieces are coming together. :smile:
MorganTheGoat
08-20-2009, 07:08 AM
Has nothing to do with structural creep and fastener failure due to fires.
Just for the record. Do you want to explain that in reference to a moment frame? (Maybe in the context of remote connections away from the localized deformation around trusses #1 and #2.)
Just for the record. Are you a paid shill for Richard Gage ?
BTW, here's the original fire fighters' web site http://www.firehouse.com/ without all the 911 lies ...
... instead of the CONspiracy suckers 911 make believe firefighter shill site PatColo advertised. (Can't wait for the next shill site like http://www.Plumbersfor911truth.com .... )
http://www.SanitationWorkersfor911truth.com
http://www.WindowWashers911.com
http://www.FastFoodWorkersFor911.com
and last but not least (a member, I'm sure, he is)
http://www.UnemployedI.T.s-911Truth.Com
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slugbucket
08-20-2009, 08:02 PM
If someone did bring down the towers with a controlled demolition, did they want it to be viewed and recorded by film? I'm guessing Manhattan must have about the highest concentration of cameras and video in the world, from amateur to professional. Plus it was a bright sunny day. Then there was a significant delay from when the first plane hit until the tower went down. Plenty of time for everyone to get set up.
If they wanted it preserved on film, why did they make it look like a controlled demolition?
Has anyone done a study on how many man-hours it would take to set the explosives?
slug
stormholloway
08-20-2009, 08:11 PM
^^^Well there's plenty of incriminating footage.... so.... if someone were going to be indicted for domestic terrorism for rigging the WTC with bombs it would have already happened.
It would take at least several days to rig WTC7 with explosives. There were bombs in these buildings prior to 9/11.
There were bombs in these buildings prior to 9/11.
Don't you just love those blanket statement reverberated "truther" claims without a shred of anything to back it up !
Lets all nod our heads in 911 CD zoombie clone agreement ....
:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Juristic Person
08-23-2009, 10:19 PM
^^^Well there's plenty of incriminating footage.... so.... if someone were going to be indicted for domestic terrorism for rigging the WTC with bombs it would have already happened.
Since there is "plenty of incriminating footage" - can you show us who did it?
Who should be indicted for "rigging the WTC with bombs"?
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Ragnarok
08-24-2009, 02:26 AM
....maybe WTC7 was the/a planned demo all along, and WTC1 and 2 happened "serendipitously" by chance at about the same time, yet were unrelated? And no, I wouldn't care to elaborate... :Surrender:
R.
stormholloway
08-24-2009, 06:34 AM
Since there is "plenty of incriminating footage" - can you show us who did it?
Who should be indicted for "rigging the WTC with bombs"?
Incrimination does not necessarily mean that one can link specific persons to the crime. It can simply mean there is proof of said crime. If you're going to get semantic with me at least get it right.
Incrimination does not necessarily mean that one can link specific persons to the crime. It can simply mean there is proof of said crime.
We are still waiting for your "proof".
honu5050
08-26-2009, 04:22 PM
180 proof . there it is there ! :wink:
joe_momma
08-26-2009, 04:42 PM
GRAVITY!:4_1_72:
180 proof . there it is there ! :wink:
The ticker says, 187 "proof" now ... GIM tinfoil stock, up to .0187%.
gunDriller
08-30-2009, 02:50 PM
glad to see this thread is still going.
honu5050
09-04-2009, 08:14 PM
glad to see this thread is still going. dident goldfinger attempt to do lasix of some sort on ol' 007 ? :RockOn:
honu5050
09-05-2009, 05:24 AM
Don't you just love those blanket statement reverberated "truther" claims without a shred of anything to back it up !
Lets all nod our heads in 911 CD zoombie clone agreement ....
:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: o.k. i'll back up the FACT in 1993 there was a bomb placed in a wtc tower ...one eye blind ....and a 7/7 killer sent to ol' momar. :wazzup_sg:stupido2:
pat pat
09-06-2009, 10:08 AM
its pretty obvious they were all brought down by explosives (nano thermite identified already)
the amount of energy required to remove all the structure underneath, and allow freefall speeds, and in its own footprint collapse, is immense.
Imagine you throw a steel bucket full of burning kerosene (airplane) on and old oak tree (WTC tower), and after a few hours of burning sporadically, the tree does not fall over, no it just implodes inside itself, leaving dust...no stump left
now thats a neat trick boys and girls.
anyone who is still spouting the official story, is paid to be here or needs to get their flouride levels checked, besides making you stupid, flouride is a rat poison.
please call the poison control center ASAP
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