D.R. Griffin, J. Fetzer, M. Reynolds on C2C with Noory tonight

[PatColo]

For the uninitiated, these are all prominent 911 Truthers.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/02/23.html
Expert on conspiracy theories, James Fetzer, will review recent hypotheses of what really happened on 9-11, based on physical evidence. He'll be joined by David Ray Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor in the second hour, and Morgan Reynolds, former chief economist for the Labor Dept., in the third hour.

Also listen to the C2C 911 roundtable from last year
http://www.911blogger.com/2005/06/recording-of-last-nights-coast-to.html

And last night's Mike Malloy show with D.R. Griffin (MP3 52 mins)
http://www.911blogger.com/files/audio/GriffinOnMikeMalloyShow_20060222.mp3

[gpond]

Thanks Pat!

Say I have a question for you.

I enjoy trying to learn the truth about what happened on 9/11 and the truth, generally, about how the world really works.

But I find myself cringing in what might pass for "mock horror" whenever I hear someone talking about "The 9/11 Truth Movement." I read Sander Hicks' book The Big Wedding and he was using that phrase a lot. I think it bugs me because it sounds like someone wants to lasso or "institutionalize" the truth. I am more confortable with an informal "community" of researchers or like-minded individuals, but the idea of a "movement" sort of makes my toes curl.

Do you have the same reaction? Maybe it's just me, but it really gets me.

[gpond]

It seems like the term "The 9/11 Truth Movement" creates an attractive handle or meme that can be used by the media and by others to uncategorically smear everyone and anyone who questions the official story. A lot like the meme "Conspiracy Theory" is used to smear folks with today. Or the meme "Anarchists" that are supposedly causing all the trouble at the WTO meetings.

In fact, I believe I am already seeing the term "The 9/11 Truth Movement" used in this fashion.

The media can say: The 9/11 Truth Movement believes that secret rays from the spiders from Mars blew a hole in the pentagon.

Then when someone raises their hand to speak, the media can say: ah.. Dr. Jones from "The 9/11 Truth Movement", a discredited cult :eek: , has something to say.

The 9/11 Truth Movement freaks me out.

[AMforPM]

I saw a video of Griffin speaking and it prompted me to get his book. A truly decent fellow, and so reasonable about the whole process. I'll see if I can find a link to that talk.

[AMforPM]

Most have probably seen these. The Madison talk was the one that introduced me to Griffin. Great talk.

http://911busters.com/911_new_video_productions/index.html

[gpond]

Nice talk by Griffin. Thanks.

I notice about 36:30 into the broadcast he addresses the "massive 46 columns" in the WTC buildings. One of my favorite parts. A little earlier he talks about WTC7 - one of the most mysterious happenings on that day.

[PatColo]

gpond, I can´t say I´ve had the same concerns.

911-CTists would give me pause, but 911-Truth, any press is good press, as long as they combine those two words.

There is a handful of poser/disinfo´ists in the 911-Truth crowd trying to gum up the works with poison pills, but off hand I don´t see them having made any meaningful impact... again any new folks they bring on board eventually wake once they´ve explored the rabbit hole a bit.

Then there are those shilling for the gummit´s Official 911 CT. The C2C 911 roundtable I pointed to above, with D.R. Griffin and Alex Jones on the truth side; and Peter Lance & some some other schmoe I don´t recall on the disinfo/shill side, was instructive. The 2 shills didn´t even promote the gummit OCT any more, they tried to preserve their credibility by admitting that great mistakes were made blah blah, they set off alot of transparent smoke bombs, tried to come across like they´re really working to bring the truth out... but even that half baked schtick withered in the face of the facts which Jones and Griffin brought to bear in presenting the awful MIHOP truth of 911.

Then we have shills here and elsewhere, evidently behind the disinfo artist curve entirely, still promoting the gummit´s OCT of 911 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0393326713/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/002-1837194-1364039?%5Fencoding=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155), LOL.

[PatColo]

heres the MP3 on the above C2C show. I didnt hear it last night, am d/ling this mP3 now, all I know now is, its 19.2 MBs.

http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio/911/Jim%20Fetzer%20et%20al%20-%20Scholars%20for%209-11%20Truth%20-%20Coast%20to%20Coast%20-%20Feb%2023%202006.mp3

Heres the guests website, http://st911.org

[PatColo]

Okay I´ve listened to this beast now (MP3 above), it's 1 hr 51 mins, very tightly edited, no commercials or bumper muzak. VG... however Fetzer dominates the show, FBOFW. He brings alot of passion, but my concern about him has always been, he's too trapped in the fake left right paradigm.

I see 911 as a stunt by "our rulers", TPTB, with both parties in the WWF charade (Washington Wrestling Federation) complicit... from the 911 coverup to the patriot act to the fake voting blackboxes to the warrenterra hoax based wars.

Every now and then Fetzer says the right things about non-partisanship but next thing you know he's babbling about the evil monkeyboy administration again, as though dumping them will make a whit of difference to the NWO roadmap. Thankfully, DR Griffin is "independent", and Morgan Reynolds is repub... which was noted at one point.

Give it a listen though, on balance it's another great leap forward for 911-truth. Between DRG on Malloy's national show Wed night, then 3 hours of http://st911.org principals on C2C last night, it's good times.