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Large Sarge
02-25-2006, 08:47 AM
http://edit.store.yahoo.com/lib/realityzone/UFNduscandal.mht
DU SCANDAL EXPLODES
<!--Article source-->Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - FreeMarketNews.com
<!--Article--><!--article body--->The Preventive Psychiatry Newsletter has written to its subscribers telling them that the real reason the former Veterans Affairs Secretary, Anthony Principi, recently resigned was because he has been involved in a massive scandal covering up the fact that Gulf War Syndrome was caused by the use of depleted uranium, according to the SF Bay View.
In the article Arthur Bernklau, executive director of Veterans for Constitutional Law, reportedly wrote that “thousands of our military have suffered and died from, [and depleted uranium] has finally been identified as the cause of this sickness, eliminating the guessing. The terrible truth is now being revealed.” Bernklau went on to detail several alarming statistics. The historical disability rate amongst soldiers last century was about 5 percent, although it approached 10 percent during Vietnam. But due to the use of depleted uranium in the battlefield, 56 percent of the 580,400 solders that served in the first Gulf War were on Permanent Medical Disability by 2000. 11,000 Gulf War veterans are already dead. Now 518,739 Gulf War Veterans, almost all of them, are currently on medical disability.
Principi, under the order of the Bush Administration, had been allegedly covering up the disastrous results of using depleted uranium since 2000. However, with so many soldiers having serious health problems it has become impossible to keep secret.
staff reports - Free-Market News Network
crazychicken
02-25-2006, 09:33 AM
Interesting, horriffic, scandalous!
Large Sarge
02-25-2006, 10:07 AM
Interesting, horriffic, scandalous!
unsure if that is sarcasm or not,
But I think Stupid and tragic should work, especially considering the veterans today are getting more of a dose of DU than those of the first gulf
war, which means even more dead and disabled in a shorter period of time..
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>>Heads roll at Veterans Administration
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>>Mushrooming depleted uranium (DU) scandal blamed
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>>by Bob Nichols
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>>Project Censored Award Winner
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>>[]
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>>"Considering the tons of depleted uranium used by the U.S., the
>>Iraq war can truly be called a nuclear war.."
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>>Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter charged Monday that the reason
>>Veterans Affairs Secretary Anthony Principi stepped down earlier
>>this month was the growing scandal surrounding the use of uranium
>>munitions in the Iraq War.
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>>Writing in Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter No. 169, Arthur N.
>>Bernklau, executive director of Veterans for Constitutional Law in
>>New York, stated, ?The real reason for Mr. Principi?s departure was
>>really never given, however a special report published by eminent
>>scientist Leuren Moret naming depleted uranium as the definitive
>>cause of the ?Gulf War Syndrome? has fed a growing scandal about
>>the continued use of uranium munitions by the US Military.?
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>>Bernklau continued, ?This malady (from uranium munitions), that
>>thousands of our military have suffered and died from, has finally
>>been identified as the cause of this sickness, eliminating the
>>guessing. The terrible truth is now being revealed.?
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>>He added, ?Out of the 580,400 soldiers who served in GW1 (the first
>>Gulf War), of them, 11,000 are now dead! By the year 2000, there
>>were 325,000 on Permanent Medical Disability. This astounding
>>number of ?Disabled Vets? means that a decade later, 56% of those
>>soldiers who served have some form of permanent medical problems!?
>>The disability rate for the wars of the last century was 5 percent;
>>it was higher, 10 percent, in Viet Nam.
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>>?The VA Secretary (Principi) was aware of this fact as far back as
>>2000,? wrote Bernklau. ?He, and the Bush administration have been
>>hiding these facts, but now, thanks to Moret?s report, (it) ... is
>>far too big to hide or to cover up!?
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>>?Terry Jamison, Public Affairs Specialist, Office of the Deputy
>>Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, Department of Veterans
>>Affairs, at the VA Central Office, recently reported that ?Gulf Era
>>Veterans? now on medical disability, since 1991, number 518,739
>>Veterans,? said Berklau.
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>>?The long-term effects have revealed that DU (uranium oxide) is a
>>virtual death sentence,? stated Berklau. ?Marion Fulk, a nuclear
>>physical chemist, who retired from the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear
>>Weapons Lab, and was also involved with the Manhattan Project,
>>interprets the new and rapid malignancies in the soldiers (from the
>>2003 Iraq War) as ?spectacular ? and a matter of concern!??
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>>When asked if the main purpose of using DU was for ?destroying
>>things and killing people,? Fulk was more specific: ?I would say it
>>is the perfect weapon for killing lots of people!?
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>>Principi could not be reached for comment prior to deadline.
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>>References
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>>1. Depleted uranium: ?Dirty bombs, dirty missiles, dirty bullets: A
>>death sentence here and abroad? by Leuren Moret,
>>http://www.sfbayview.com/081804/Depleteduranium081804..shtml.
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>>2. Veterans for Constitutional Law, 112 Jefferson Ave., Port
>>Jefferson NY 11777, Arthur N. Bernklau, executive director, (516)
>>474-4261, fax 516-474-1968.
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>>3. Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter. Email Gary Kohls,
>>gkohls@cpinternet.com (http://mail.indybear.com/src/compose.php?send_to=gkohls%40cpinternet.com), with ?Subscribe? in the subject line.
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>>Email Bob Nichols at bobnichols@cox.net (http://mail.indybear.com/src/compose.php?send_to=bobnichols%40cox.net).
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Ponce Cuba
02-25-2006, 11:39 AM
"When the truth comes into the light the lies will hide in the dark"... Ponce
Ok.....the truth about the uraniun bit came into the light so now what?
what will the government do for those GI's that are hurting? and for the families of those who are dead?
volzka
02-25-2006, 11:59 AM
Hey-
That's an easy one Ponce. Simple as 1,2,3.
1) Paper it over
2) Relace the lost inventory (you know, as in increase tax credit for new babies)
3) Pay for it with a new war.:banghead:
Volzka
Hypertiger
02-25-2006, 12:56 PM
This time around Massive quantities of DU was injected into Iraqi cities...
Millions of Iraqi's...
When the time comes the top will expose the USA...
You all have already annihilated yourselves...
I help employers...But I certainly don't believe that it is against some rule to bite the hand that feeds you...
All you drones don't have the guts to make the right choices...You will choose the easy way out...
The easy way is...To not do anything unless you are forced to...Actually it is the hard way but it is easy to mistake it for the easy way...
Sure when you feel secure you will claim how courageous you are but when it comes time to walk the walk...The charade ends.
But we were all fooled it's not our fault...
So there is some rule that basically allows people that choose to be irresponsible to escape the consequences of choosing to be irresponsible?
jerry
02-25-2006, 01:03 PM
So there is some rule that basically allows people that choose to be irresponsible to escape the consequences of choosing to be irresponsible?
That, through the use of the Christian Puritan Work Ethic, allowed us to become THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH.
Hypertiger
02-25-2006, 01:47 PM
At a time in the past...But you're all smoke and mirrors now...
Now everyone in what is called Western civilization are assholes Including me...But when it comes down to figuring out who are the Greatest assholes...It's the USA all the way...
That is not an opinion...It's not what I think...It's what I know...Of couse you don't think that...Or more accurately know it...
And you won't until you are forced to...When you're forced to suffer the consequences of your astounding ignorance when it can't be ignored any longer...
But until then you can blissfully continue the our shit don't stink charade that the top is currently allowing you to continue...
You all also foolishly believe in the top needs us so they have to protect us delusion...
As I said when your usefulness to the absolute capitalists is over...You will be liquidated...written off...
Y'all stink...It's time to wake up and prepare for the day that the stench can not be covered up with Febreze.
Ponce Cuba
02-25-2006, 01:52 PM
Hyper? you ar RIGHT, action speaks louder than words.
jerry
02-25-2006, 02:00 PM
At a time in the past...But you're all smoke and mirrors now...
Now everyone in what is called Western civilization are assholes Including me...But when it comes down to figuring out who are the Greatest assholes...It's the USA all the way...
That is not an opinion...It's not what I think...It's what I know...Of couse you don't think that...Or more accurately know it...
And you won't until you are forced to...When you're forced to suffer the consequences of your astounding ignorance when it can't be ignored any longer...
But until then you can blissfully continue the our shit don't stink charade that the top is currently allowing you to continue...
You all also foolishly believe in the top needs us so they have to protect us delusion...
As I said when your usefulness to the absolute capitalists is over...You will be liquidated...written off...
Y'all stink...It's time to wake up and prepare for the day that the stench can not be covered up with Febreze.
You are quite correct, sir.
However, you are ignoring the fact that this is part of a "normal" cycle.
The cycles of civilization all include such as we see presently.
Technology, human social interaction (division of labor) through the use of cooked food (and the resulting destruction of overall mental and physical health) leading to mercury poisoning leads to the development of civilization and this insane cycle.
goldfish
02-25-2006, 02:17 PM
Moret has already published a study calculating the deaths anticipated from DU in the Iraqi
population---approx 25 million. In other words, the entire population.
Why use DU?--
Why send so many National Guard and Reserves?
Donnie and friends are fond of privatized mercenary forces, generally foreign.
HT--The folks running the show are bigger fools than the sheep.
hoarder
02-25-2006, 03:23 PM
The folks running the show are bigger fools than the sheep.No, they just have different objectives. Once you recognise that you'll have to admit they're pretty clever.
Hypertiger
02-25-2006, 03:48 PM
No the goal is common the objective is the defeat of GOD and obtaining absolute power over all...
You are the folks running the show...The top just makes sure you continue to run it. you all appear to be well compensated by your employers for your good works...
Unfortunately the logical conclusion which you all find unreasonable is the defeat of all of you by GOD since it's impossible to defeat GOD...
I would not call that clever...I would call what you all do on a daily basis stupid...
But the majority of stupid people can easily vote themselves smart...
And since no one wants to be stupid it is an easy vote...
goldfish
02-25-2006, 03:50 PM
No, they just have different objectives. Once you recognise that you'll have to admit they're pretty clever.
And how would you define their objectives?
crazychicken
02-25-2006, 07:34 PM
My post, #2 in this thread, was in no way meant to be sarcastic. Not in the least.
I'm sorry it was perceived that way.
It is a tragedy, it is worse than that! Because our soldiers took the hit.
The same way WE took the hit with Agent Orange!
I apologize for any misunderstanding!!!
GREENSILVERHORN
02-25-2006, 08:40 PM
I too believe that TPTB have lost some of their wits.
Is there a division amongst them?
East and West
If so I believe the west has relegated itself to the fact that it can't have its way and will stop at nothing to make sure it goes down taking the rest of us with it.
Maybe then they can have it their way.
Exposure will only prompt forward any end game plans that have already been laid out.
Still plans are just plans and changes come all the time.
Prometheus
02-25-2006, 09:06 PM
You all have already annihilated yourselves...
Where are you from?
Not that I disagree we have/are destroying ourselves, I just like to put a general location with a poster.
sheila
02-26-2006, 11:45 AM
Where are you from?
Not that I disagree we have/are destroying ourselves, I just like to put a general location with a poster.
Canada (the BETTER America).
Jasper
03-01-2006, 06:39 AM
http://www.rense.com/general69/deathstar.htm
The Queen's Death Star
Depleted Uranium Measured in British Atmosphere
from Battlefields in the Middle East
By Leuren Moret
2-26-6
The Sunday Times Online, February 19, 2006, reported on a shocking scientific study authored by British scientists Dr. Chris Busby and Saoirse Morgan: "Did the use of Uranium weapons in Gulf War 2 result in contamination of Europe? Evidence from the measurements of the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE), Aldermaston, Berkshire, UK". The highest levels of depleted uranium ever measured in the atmosphere in Britain, were transported on air currents from the Middle East and Central Asia; of special significance were those from the Tora Bora bombing in Afghanistan in 2001, and the "Shock & Awe" bombing during Gulf War II in Iraq in 2003. Out of concern for the public, the official British government air monitoring facility, known as the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE), at Aldermaston was established years ago, to measure radioactive emissions from British nuclear power plants and atomic weapons facilities.
The British government facility (AWE) was taken over 3 years ago by Halliburton, which refused at first to release air monitoring data, as required by law, to Dr. Busby. An international expert on low level radiation, Busby serves as an official advisor on several British government committees, and co-authored an independent report on low level radiation with 45 scientists, the European Committee on Radiation Risk (ECRR), for the European Parliament. He was able to get Aldermaston air monitoring data from Halliburton /AWE by filing a Freedom of Information request using a new British law which became effective January 1, 2005; but the data for 2003 was missing. He obtained the 2003 data from the Defence Procurement Agency.
The fact that the air monitoring data was circulated by Halliburton/AWE to the Defence Procurement Agency, implies that it was considered to be relevant, and that Dr. Busby was stonewalled because Halliburton/AWE clearly recognized that it was a serious enough matter to justify a government interpretation of the results, and official decisions had to be made about what the data would show and its political implications for the military. In a similar circumstance, in 1992, Major Doug Rokke, the Director of the U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Cleanup Project after Gulf War I, was ordered by a U.S. Army General officer to write a no-bid contract "Depleted Uranium, Contaminated Equipment, and Facilities Recovery Plan Outline" for the procedures for cleaning up Kuwait, including depleted uranium, for Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR), a subsidiary of Halliburton. The contract/proposal was passed through Madeleine Albright, the Secretary of State, to the Emirate of Kuwait, who considered the terms and then hired KBR for the cleanup.
Aldermaston is one of many nuclear facilities throughout Europe that regularly monitor atmospheric radiation levels, transported by atmospheric sand and dust storms, or air currents, from radiation sources in North Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia. After the "Shock and Awe" campaign in Iraq in 2003, very fine particles of depleted uranium were captured with larger sand and dust particles in filters in Britain. These particles traveled in 7-9 days from Iraqi battlefields as far as 2400 miles away. The radiation measured in the atmosphere quadrupled within a few weeks after the beginning of the 2003 campaign, and at one of the 5 monitoring locations, the levels twice required an official alert to the British Environment Agency.
In addition to depleted uranium data gathered in previous studies on Kosovo and Bosnia by Dr. Busby, the Aldermaston air monitoring data provided a continuous record of depleted uranium levels in Britain from the other recent wars. Extensive video news footage of the 2003 Iraq war, including Fallujah in 2004, provided irrefutable documented evidence that the US has unethically and illegally used depleted uranium munitions on cities and other civilian populations. These military actions are in direct violation of not only the international conventions, but also violate US military law because the US is a signatory to The Hague and Geneva Conventions and the 1925 Geneva Gas Protocol. Depleted uranium weaponry meets the definition of a Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) in two out of three categories under US Code TITLE 50, CHAPTER 40 Sec. 2302. After action mandates have also been violated such as US Army Regulation AR 700-48 and TB 9-1300-278 which requires treatment of radiation poisoning for all casualties, including enemy soldiers and civilians, and remediation. Dr. Busby's request for this data through Halliburton from AWE, and subsequently provided by the Defence Procurement Agency, was necessary to establish verification of Iraq's 2003 depleted uranium levels in the atmosphere. These facts demonstrate why Halliburton (AWE) refused to release the 2003 data to him, and it obviously establishes that weaponized depleted uranium is an indiscriminate weapon being distributed all over the world in a very short period of time, immediately after its use.
The recent documentary film BEYOND TREASON details the horrific effects of depleted uranium exposure on American troops and Iraqi civilians in the Gulf region in 1991; not to speak of those civilians continuing to live in permanently contaminated and thus uninhabitable regions. Global increases since 1991 of melanoma, infant mortality, and frog die-offs can only be explained by an environmental contaminant. Alarming global increases in diabetes, with high correlation to depleted uranium wars in Iraq, Bosnia/Kosovo, and Afghanistan, demonstrate that diabetes is a sensitive indicator and a rapid response to internal depleted uranium exposure. Americans in 2003 reported visiting Iraqi relatives in Baghdad who were suffering from an epidemic of diabetes. After returning to the US following 2-3 weeks in Iraq, they discovered within a few months that they too had diabetes. Japanese human shields and journalists who worked in Iraq during the 2003 war are sick and now have symptoms typical of depleted uranium exposure.
Likewise, after the US Navy, several years ago, moved depleted uranium bombing and gunnery ranges from Vieques Island in Puerto Rico to Australia, health effects there are already being reported. The documentary film BLOWIN' IN THE WIND, has an interview with a family with two normal teenage daughters, living near the bombing range where depleted uranium weaponry is now being used. The parents showed photos of their baby born recently with severe birth defects. The baby looked like Iraqi deformed babies, and like many of the Iraqi babies, died 5 days after birth.
Other than anonymous British government officials denying that Iraq was the source of the depleted uranium measured at Aldermaston by AWE, and some unnamed 'establishment scientists' blaming it on local sources or natural uranium in the Iraq environment, there is no one, as of this writing, willing to lend their name or office to refuting this damning evidence reported by Dr. Busby. All of the anonymous statements used by the media thus far are contradicted by the factual evidence found in the filters, which was all transported from the same region. The natural abundance of uranium in the crust of the earth is 2.4 parts per million, which would not become concentrated to the high levels measured in Britain during a long journey from the Middle East. These particles traveling over thousands of miles would dilute the concentration rather than increase it. There are no known natural uranium deposits in Iraq which make it impossible for these anonymous claims to have scientific credibility. Unnamed government sources blamed local sources in Britain such as nuclear power plants; however that would also leave evidence of fission products in the filters which were not in evidence. The lowest levels measured at monitoring stations around Aldermaston were at the facility, which means it could not be a possible source. Atomic weapons facilities would be more likely to produce plutonium contamination, also not reported as a co-contaminant at Aldermaston. In other words, all factual evidence considered, the question must be asked, what were the Medias anonymous experts and government officials basing their claims on?
Dr. Keith Baverstock exposed a World Health Organization (WHO) cover-up on depleted uranium in an Aljazeera article, "Washington's Secret Nuclear War" posted on September 14, 2004. It was the most popular article ever posted on the Aljazeera English language website . Baverstock leaked an official WHO report that he wrote, to the media several years ago after the WHO refused to publish it. He warned in the report about the mobility of, and environmental contamination from, tiny depleted uranium particles formed from US munitions. Busby's ECRR report challenged the International Committee on Radiation Protection (ICRP) standards for radiation risk, and reported that the mutagenic effects of radiation determined by Chernobyl studies are actually 1000 times higher than the ICRP risk model predicts. The ECRR report also establishes that the ICRP risk model, based on external exposure of Hiroshima and Nagasaki victims, and the ECRR risk model, based on internal exposure, are mutually exclusive models. In other words, the ICRP risk model based on external exposure cannot be used to estimate internal exposure risk. The report also states that a separate study is needed for depleted uranium exposure risks, because it may be far more toxic than nuclear weapons or nuclear power plant exposures. In July of 2005, the National Academy of Sciences reported in their new BEIR VII report on low level radiation, that there is "no safe level of exposure". The report also finally admitted that very low levels are more harmful per unit of radiation than higher levels of exposure, also known as the "supralinear" effect.
This is extremely alarming information on low level radiation risk, since the AWE data from Aldermaston confirms that rapid global transport of depleted uranium dust is occurring. Dr. Katsuma Yagasaki, a Japanese physicist at the University of the Ryukyus in Okinawa, has estimated that the atomicity equivalent of at least 400,000 Nagasaki bombs has been released into the global atmosphere since 1991, from the use of depleted uranium munitions. It is completely mixed in the atmosphere in one year. The "smog of war" from Gulf War I was found in glaciers and ice sheets globally a year later. Even more alarming is the non-specific catalytic or enzyme effect from internal exposures to nanoparticles of depleted uranium. Soldiers on depleted uranium battlefields have reported that, after noticing a metallic taste in their mouths, within 24-48 hours of exposure they became sick with Gulf War syndrome symptoms.
Who is profiting from this global uranium nightmare? Dr. Jay Gould revealed in his book THE ENEMY WITHIN, that the British Royal family privately owns investments in uranium holdings worth over $6 billion through Rio Tinto Mines. The mining company was formed for the British Royal family in the late 1950's by Roland Walter "Tiny" Rowland, the Queen's buccaneer. Born in 1917 through illegitimate German parentage, and before changing his name, Roland Walter Fuhrhop was a passionate member of the Nazi youth movement by 1933, and a classmate described him as "...an ardent supporter of Hitler and an arrogant, nasty piece of work to boot." His meteoric rise and protection by intel agencies and the British Crown are an indication of what an asset he has been for decades to the Queen, as Africa's most powerful Western businessman. Africa and Australia are two of the main sources of uranium in the world. The Rothschilds control uranium supplies and prices globally, and one serves as the Queen's business manager. Filmmaker David Bradbury made BLOWIN' IN THE WIND to expose depleted uranium bombing and gunnery range activities contaminating pristine areas of eastern Australia, and to expose plans to extract over $36 billion in uranium from mines in the interior over the next 6 years. Halliburton has finished construction of a 1000 mile railway from the mining area to a port on the north coast of Australia to transport the ore. The Queen's favorite American buccaneers, Cheney, Halliburton, and the Bush family, are tied to her through uranium mining and the shared use of illegal depleted uranium munitions in the Middle East, Central Asia and Kosovo/Bosnia. The major roles that such diverse individuals and groups as the Carlyle Group, George Herbert Walker Bush, former Carlyle CEO Frank Calucci, the University of California managed nuclear weapons labs at Los Alamos and Livermore, and US and international pension fund investments have played in proliferating depleted uranium weapons is not well known or in most instances even recognized, inside or outside the country.
God Save The Queen from the guilt of her complicity in turning Planet Earth into a 'Death Star'.
Jasper
03-01-2006, 06:45 AM
http://www.afghandufund.org/
http://www.ihcenter.org/groups/afghandufund.html
Ldopa
03-01-2006, 08:09 AM
Those figure are pretty astounding/awful.
Does anyone have any idea of the numbers of deformed children being born to parents who serve there? Or do the effects just happen to those who were actually on the ground?
You know, I really wish I could see factual data on the web, not just rehashes of one person saying this saying that, quoting a guy name Brinkley, Terry Jameson, etc., etc. Where is the documentation that supposedly Terry Jameson of the VA released? Mort has compiled a "list of know illnesses". Where is the raw data? Reports of this data have gone back as far as 2004, so the web says. One of those known illnesses is muscle pain. Another, reduced IQ.
I have been developing for the web since 1993. When I don't see clear, documented evidence, but see what is supposed to look like formal press releases, I have serious suspicions about credibility and overblown conclusions. It's done to generate cash.
You do know that web traffic is a serious moneymaker. This website (although forums are notoriously low on the money making totem pole), could very easily make $800/month with non-obtrusive PPC, affiliate, and paid advertising. Webmasters, if you have not provided Kitco with your advertising rates, I suggest you do so. Your link pop is quite strong.
The web is turning into a garbage pile and a lot of you are eating from it. This particular DU scandal may have a great deal of merit, but I have yet to see anything substantial. I could not find anything - let me know if you find something. Major newspapers love bashing Bush and exposing the truth. Why don't they write/post this information?
Sorry, I'm ranting this morning, but it ticks me off that I cannot find detail to back up some of this stuff. The internet herds sheep too.
hoarder
03-01-2006, 10:44 AM
Major newspapers love bashing Bush and exposing the truth. Why don't they write/post this information?
I'm not supporting/defending rense.com, but 99% of the world's mass media is owned by about 7 men. Internet sources come from thousands of different diverse sources. Either way, you still have to analyze the information. Just because a major network or newspaper makes a claim or suggestion doesn't mean it has been subjected to any kind of objective proof. Media is POWER.
I'll tell you something you don't understand:
The mass media is pro-Bush.
The supposedly "left wing media" pretends to oppose Bush, yet they withhold so much damning information. It's easy to pretend to be in opposition to something or someone when you aren't. All you have to do is point very selective scrutiny at them.
If you oppose corruption, you expose it. If you don't expose it, you don't really oppose it.
Just like when Clinton sold military secrets to China, the supposedly "right wing media" (FOX) pointed intense scrutiny at the Monica Lewinsky irrelevant nonsense to distract us from what was important.
There is no such thing as left or right wing media, only Jewsmedia.
Large Sarge
03-01-2006, 11:03 AM
[quote=Dude]You know, I really wish I could see factual data on the web, not just rehashes of one person saying this saying that, quoting a guy name Bernklau, Terry Jamieson, ect., ect. Where is the documentation that supposedly Terry Jamieson of the VA released? Moret has compiled a "list of know illnesses". Where is the raw data? Reports of this data have gone back as far as 2004, so the web says. One of those known illnesses is muscle pain. Another, reduced IQ.[quote]
Are you saying you doubt the veracity of of the health effects of DU?
you could take a look at the rising cancer rates of S.W. Asia, seems like I heard they are growing at triple digit rates...
the level of deformed kids being born to G.W. vets is also on the rise,
and the number of disabilities issued to G.W Vets should tell you something, the Govt does not like giving out those things at all, a visit to the V.A. hospital is taking your life in your own hands.... has its own dangers and risks...
I am afraid the DU problem is real.
Jasper
03-01-2006, 11:46 AM
The web is turning into a garbage pile and a lot of you are eating from it. This particular DU scandal may have a great deal of merit, but I have yet to see anything substancial. I could not find anything - let me know if you find something.
Looks to me as if you are the one who has been feeding on garbage. Couldn't find anything? It took me a few seconds to find these:
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1. GULF WAR SYNDROME BIRTH DEFECTS IN IRAQ CHILDREN BABIES EXTREME ...
"EXTREME BIRTH DEFORMITIES. "Unborn children of the region [are] being asked to ... "Aerosol DU (Depleted Uranium) exposures to soldiers on the battlefield ..."
www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html
2. DEPLETED URANIUM BURNING: AN ETERNAL MEDICAL DISASTER Issues on ...
"Nato and Depleted Uranium Hazard : The unbelievable truthfull story ... Soaring birth deformities and child cancer rates in Iraq By James Cogan WSWS 10 May ..."
www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/ud_main.html
3. Soaring birth deformities and child cancer rates in Iraq
"Dr Nawar Ali, a medical researcher into birth deformities at Baghdad University, ... The statistics point to the long-term consequences of depleted uranium ..."
www.wsws.org/articles/2005/may2005/iraq-m10.shtml
4. Iraqi cancers, birth defects blamed on US depleted uranium
"Depleted uranium, known as DU, is a highly dense metal that is the ... with photos of deformed infants -- examples, he says, of the surge in birth defects ..."
seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/95178_du12.shtml
5. US forces' use of depleted uranium weapons is 'illegal' - [Sunday ...
"BRITISH and American coalition forces are using depleted uranium (DU) shells in ... of birth deformities and cancer in Iraq' following the first Gulf war. ..."
www.sundayherald.com/32522
6. Depleted Uranium and Anglo-American Infanticide in the Wake of the ...
"... of horrendous birth deformities that are being experienced in Iraq. ... "Aerosol DU (Depleted Uranium) exposures to soldiers on the battlefield could be ..."
www.tetrahedron.org/articles/gulf_war_syndrome/uranium_infanticide.html
7. The Truth Seeker - Soaring birth deformities and child cancer ...
"Depleted Uranium has been likened to the Biblical 'wormwood'. ... Dr Nawar Ali, a medical researcher into birth deformities at Baghdad University, ..."
www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3086
8. Crimes -- Committed In All Our Names
"Extreme Birth Deformities From Depleted Uranium. Baby with birth deformaties. Iraqi baby, a victim of DU (Depleted Uranium, abgereichertes Uran, ..."
johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id155.html
9. Crimes -- Committed In All Our Names
"Soaring birth deformities and child cancer rates in Iraq. ... The statistics point to the long-term consequences of depleted uranium contamination. ..."
johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id225.html
10. Project Censored Media democracy in action
"NDU is more radioactive than depleted uranium (DU), which itself is charged with ... in birth deformities and cancers wherever NDU and DU had been used. ..."
www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/4.html
11. Depleted Uranium!
"The United States is guilty of using depleted uranium, innocent children suffer! WARNING: Photos below are horrifying! EXTREME BIRTH DEFORMITIES ..."
www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/depleted_uranium.htm
12. MDs Suggest Depleted Uranium Behind Increase in Iraqi Deformities ...
"MDs Suggest Depleted Uranium Behind Increase in Iraqi Deformities ... DU might be behind a similar spike in birth deformities that followed the 1991 war. ..."
newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/1755
13. Weekly Christian Updates On The New World Order - It's In The News.
"... Reveals Terrible Truth About Depleted Uranium · EXTREME BIRTH DEFORMITIES ... BLINDING SANDSTORMS: HOW DEPLETED URANIUM KILLS AN ENTIRE POPULATION ..."
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14. Use of "Depleted" Uranium Munitions
"Depleted uranium
Looks to me as if you are the one who has been feeding on garbage. Couldn't find anything? It took me a few seconds to find these:
Ya, I found those links of articles linked, duplicated, reduplicated, relinked, linked again, copied, pasted, crappy sites, linked, relinked - designed to make them money and not provide anything but more links, copies, etc. That's garbage, Jaser. I won't eat it.
hoarder
03-01-2006, 11:58 AM
That's garbage, Jaser. I won't eat it.Anything that challenges my long held beliefs/values is garbage. The talking heads on the boob tube would never deceive me.
Large Sarge
03-01-2006, 11:58 AM
Ya, I found those links of articles linked, duplicated, reduplicated, relinked, linked again, copied, pasted, crappy sites, linked, relinked - designed to make them money and not provide anything but more links, copies, etc. That's garbage, Jaser. I won't eat it.
How about visiting the 11,000 + gravesites of troops dead from DU poisoning from GW 1?
Would that suffice?
actually, i think you should get some ample evidence in the next few months.
See a lot of our troops are on tour number 2 in the radioactive waste dump called Iraq, and since we have used a LOT more DU this time around, simple logic tells you anyone doing 2 tours in a more contaminated environment is going to be a lot sicker...
twice the time, plus twice the toxin level...
I expect some of them will be dropping dead as soon as they get home....
Jasper
03-01-2006, 12:03 PM
Anything that challenges my long held beliefs/values is garbage. The talking heads on the boob tube would never deceive me.
Yup. After all, the MSM is BIG BIZNESS and we all know that BIG BIZ has only our best interests at heart.
And BTW, I keep all my savings in FRNs. Everyone knows that owning PMs is unpatriotic.
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