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Hatha Sunahara
02-25-2006, 11:31 PM
Hello my fellow gpld aficionados, I am Hatha Sunahara. I have been reading this forum for a month or so now, paying atention mostly to the diversity of views about what is brewing in the world that is causing gold to become something highly demanded. I have detected many of the bits and pieces I have collected elsewhere. I get most of my information from the alternative press. I wanted to point out some information here that I haven't seen anyone post. I hope this expands some awareness. I also hope it encourages others to go out and find clues about what is coming.

My latest find is at this URL;

http://newropeans-magazine.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3463&Itemid=85

When I read this, it immediately triggered off a link to a blogger I have read before at this URL:

http://www.excognito.blogspot.com/

So I went there, and this guy picked it up before I did. Even wrote about it. This guy did a series on the Protocols of Zion where he inserted his commentary on the various proposals made in that document. What I was reading about the events of the last week of March, 2006 reminded me that in the Protocols the writer said they would take over the world --everything and everywhere in a single day. So I looked for that, and sure enough, it is in Protocols 6 and 7. These two protoclos appear to describe events that seem to be converging to take plade in the last week of this coming month--about one month from now.

And finally, all of this reminded me of something I had read about coming events described by a guy named William Cooper who wrote an underground novel called Behold A Pale Horse. That article was at this URL:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/syzmanski2006nwoagenda13feb06.shtml

This guy must have read the Protocols too because he describes a world that the writiers of the protocols described after their takeover.

I have read the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. I have not been diverted by the controversy about whether it is a fake or not, I have just been paying attention to its contents. My expectation, if everything is going according to plan, that we (aficionados of precious metals) are doing the right thing by moving out of cash. Precious metals, commodities, and real estate seem to be safe havens now. I have not yet deciphered the order of events that will lead up to the one day takeover of the world, but anyone who wants to could read the Protocols and try to piece together the order in which things will happen. Who know, doing such a thing could be a guide for how to save thine own arse.

I won't worry too much about what happens after the 'takeover'. Most of what is proposed in the Protocols is pretty sensible stuff. I think what is damning about it is the kind of elitism of the authors, and their disgust with the stupidity of the people who rule the world's governments. What they propose in this document seems smarter and fairer for more people than what currently exists. My sense is that what is on the other side of March 2006 will be an improvement over what exists now. I do expect that a Fascist regime will govern the entire planet. This will be anathema to people who value 'freedom' and they will resist. But the vast majority will follow the advice of the chief of the Gestapo of a large German city who said the philosophy of the Gestapo was that 'No harm comes to those who keep their mouths shut.' Eventually, I would expect that Fascism will not be necessary because people will feel comfortable with the rationality and the sense of justice of the rulers. I don't advocate this, I am merely extending what I have read in the Protocols to what I know about human nature. The Protocols seem like a good explanation of what is afoot.

Hatha Sunahara
:proud:

hoarder
02-25-2006, 11:55 PM
Welcome to GIM

I won't worry too much about what happens after the 'takeover'. Most of what is proposed in the Protocols is pretty sensible stuff. I think what is damning about it is the kind of elitism of the authors, and their disgust with the stupidity of the people who rule the world's governments. What they propose in this document seems smarter and fairer for more people than what currently exists.
The tactics and secrecy of those elites who are taking over as well as their cohesiveness with their blood bretheren demonstrates their contempt of their subjects (us). That should be a pretty good indication of how we will be treated.

lr777g62d
02-26-2006, 12:52 AM
I won't worry too much about what happens after the 'takeover'. Most of what is proposed in the Protocols is pretty sensible stuff. I think what is damning about it is the kind of elitism of the authors, and their disgust with the stupidity of the people who rule the world's governments. What they propose in this document seems smarter and fairer for more people than what currently exists. My sense is that what is on the other side of March 2006 will be an improvement over what exists now.

Hatha Sunahara
:proud:

Ah yes, the lure of the Inquisitor....


Judge Thyself who was right- Thou or he who questioned Thee then? Remember the first question; its meaning, in other words, was this: "Thou wouldst go into the world, and art going with empty hands, with some promise of freedom which men in their simplicity and their natural unruliness cannot even understand, which they fear and dread- for nothing has ever been more insupportable for a man and a human society than freedom. But seest Thou these stones in this parched and barren wilderness? Turn them into bread, and mankind will run after Thee like a flock of sheep, grateful and obedient, though for ever trembling, lest Thou withdraw Thy hand and deny them Thy bread." But Thou wouldst not deprive man of freedom and didst reject the offer, thinking, what is that freedom worth if obedience is bought with bread? Thou didst reply that man lives not by bread alone. But dost Thou know that for the sake of that earthly bread the spirit of the earth will rise up against Thee and will strive with Thee and overcome Thee, and all will follow him, crying, "Who can compare with this beast? He has given us fire from heaven!" Dost Thou know that the ages will pass, and humanity will proclaim by the lips of their sages that there is no crime, and therefore no sin; there is only hunger? "Feed men, and then ask of them virtue!" that's what they'll write on the banner, which they will raise against Thee, and with which they will destroy Thy temple. Where Thy temple stood will rise a new building; the terrible tower of Babel will be built again, and though, like the one of old, it will not be finished, yet Thou mightest have prevented that new tower and have cut short the sufferings of men for a thousand years; for they will come back to us after a thousand years of agony with their tower.
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=16969&highlight=inquisitor

Hivemindgammahydra7
02-26-2006, 01:11 AM
Is it just me, or does "Hatha Sunahara" strike anybody else as a pseudonym for one of our recently departed, disgruntled former members?

lr777g62d
02-26-2006, 01:16 AM
Is it just me, or does "Hatha Sunahara" strike anybody else as a pseudonym for one of our recently departed, disgruntled former members?

I think he has the Midas touch. :cheerful:

Ponce Cuba
02-26-2006, 01:19 AM
Saalam Aleikum and welcome to GIM Sunahara, looks to me like you will fit right in.

Jasper
02-26-2006, 12:19 PM
What I was reading about the events of the last week of March, 2006 reminded me that in the Protocols the writer said they would take over the world --everything and everywhere in a single day. So I looked for that, and sure enough, it is in Protocols 6 and 7. These two protoclos appear to describe events that seem to be converging to take plade in the last week of this coming month--about one month from now.

Could this be how it will all go down "in a single day"? SCALAR TECTONIC WARFARE?

"Urgent warning of imminent cataclysm in Northwest United States

Posted on February 20, 2006

While Americans are kept distracted with manufactured news of an impending attack on Iran because of supposed nuclear violations and trivia about Dick Cheney shooting a hunting companion, a dedicated campaign of electronic scalar tectonic warfare is ongoing that will soon bring America to the brink of destruction.

Within months, and possibly weeks, the northwest coast of the United States will experience a tectonic and volcanic cataclysm quite unlike any other in recorded history. In the process, millions of people will be killed or injured. The American economy will be shaken to its very foundations, and in the process a draconian form of martial law will be declared that will make the cherished institute of constitutional democracy a thing of the past. . . .

. . . it is increasingly obvious that someone is trying to wreak havoc on the western coast of the United States of America, and they are doing it using three-axis scalar tectonic weapons, the only thing capable of creating such horrific acts. These weapons have astounding amounts of electronic power, some in excess of three terrawatts at a single station. When the longitudinal scalar waves from three scalar weapons combine at the selected target, the energy increases exponentially. When used at the resonant frequency of the target, the energy is increased exponentially once again, resulting in the power to create earthquakes and volcanic eruptions at will. It is being done openly as you read this, and if you are living in an area where these weapons are being focused, you have become [one] of their targets."

For the rest see: http://www.weatherwars.info/index.php?news_id=47

Take a look at the picture on that page. I saw similar ripples two weeks ago over another earthquake hotspot, though much more clearly defined, and I think they tend to disperse quickly since so far as I can gather only periodic short pulses are needed to build up the stress.

See also the latest:

Bots: Earth Changes Ahead -- Saturday Feb 25, 2006

"The imagery seems to deal with millions of people walking on millions of dead."

http://urbansurvival.com/simplebots.htm


:eek:

GREENSILVERHORN
02-26-2006, 01:45 PM
And all these guys in the Northern woods thought they were safe.

Northern latitudes will be shrouded in ash.

Halo, watch ya gonna do if you can't get any light on those solar panels.

Hypertiger
02-26-2006, 03:56 PM
So called Foreign held public debt is at 50% or 4 Trillion...

So the theory is that due to the dollar's loss of purchasing power the foreigners are going to sell their Treasuries...

What would that do?

It would increase the supply of Treasuries in the market...Causing interest rates to rise significantly which would then make it very hard for US consumers to request the manufacture of more money by commercial banks which would cause the growth rate of the money supply to collapse...Imports into the USA from the foreign zones to become less affordable and the Dollar would strengthen for a brief period until of course the foreigners were hit by the debt deflationary shockwave they caused in the USA by selling the bonds and their economies began to collapse...

The other scenario is where instead of exchanging the short term treasuries for new ones the Bond holders demand cash which would cause a further weakening of the dollar once spent and earn no quarterly interest like the Bonds did...The dollar would collapse the US consumer would slow their consumption of foreign imports and the foreign zones economies would then begin collapsing once the debt deflationary shockwave they caused in the USA hit them...

The oil priced in Euros is being spun like it's a decision that Iraq made of course just before they were invaded and that Iran is currently entertaining...

It's all a soap opera to enthrall the drone spectators...The purpose is to paint the picture that the US is an evil imperialist nation on it's last legs resorting to brute force in order to keep the rest of the world in line...

When in fact the USA is just a client state of the European owners/employers of the 312 year old Global food powered make work enterprise...based in England, Switzerland, and The Vatican...With the so called Central bank of central banks the Bank for international settlements which financed the construction of reality within the system since 1933 located in Basel...

The USA is just the Brawn...The brains of the operation are in Europe.

Playing the USA/Israel against Iran...While pretending to be helpless bewildered pascifists caught in the middle...

Bugle
02-26-2006, 06:23 PM
And all these guys in the Northern woods thought they were safe.

Northern latitudes will be shrouded in ash.

Halo, watch ya gonna do if you can't get any light on those solar panels.



This is of course the extreeme end of the lunatic fringe area of conspiracy theory.

Almost every other scenero including bird flu and concentration camps for the christians are much more likely.

Entertaining ?

Yes, but so is the front page of the National Enquirer when stuck in line at the grocery store.


With all the real dangers and problems out there this is laughable.
Assuming this could be possible.
Why destroy all the infrastructure when starvation through an EMP device, Oil shock, or economic armageddon would leave it nearly intact.



Us guys in the northwoods are not fools enough to think that any of the real possible events on the horizon will leave us safe.

We will just have more time to see it coming.
Leaving more time to entertain the idea of a change in plans for escape.

Even if there were no economic catastropic possibilities looming out there I would choose to live where I am.

Living in a city, even visiting a large city makes me feel like I am a capitive in some sort of zoo.
We are all in captivity it just doesn't feel as constricting to me when I can see for miles and miles and can't see any evidence of human habitation. No power lines, no roads.

On the other hand there are those contrails even here.

Ponce
My little one mule town only has one stop sign. No cell phone service, no bank, no car wash..........................yes we have dirty trucks but we don't care.


Quaking in my boots

Sincerely
AAFR (african american female redneck)

GoldWampum
02-26-2006, 06:31 PM
Sincerely
AAFR (african american female redneck)

Now there's one for the books. :beer:

Personally I think you have the right idea, as does Ponce, Duck and a few others. At least there is an exercise yard in the prison.:cooler:

hoarder
02-26-2006, 06:34 PM
I think this is one of those cyber-transformations. Like Jerry becoming Shiela.

Bugle used to be a Basque.

Ponce Cuba
02-26-2006, 06:37 PM
Bugle? we have three stop signs but I am six miles away from them.

Heyyyyyyyy mine is a one mule town, yours sound like a one racoon town.

By the way this town is growing by leaps and bounds, I am glad to be far from town.

Au_Ag
02-26-2006, 06:50 PM
I think this is one of those cyber-transformations. Like Jerry becoming Shiela.

Bugle used to be a Basque.

Is it just me, or does "Hatha Sunahara" strike anybody else as a pseudonym for one of our recently departed, disgruntled former members?

Odd first post - odds are that this is a nym-shifter.

GKhan probably has the tools to say with more accuracy. Most people don't know what it takes to be truly anonymous.

Regards

Ken

Bugle
02-26-2006, 07:08 PM
I think this is one of those cyber-transformations. Like Jerry becoming Shiela.

Bugle used to be a Basque.



Half Basque from my mothers side.

Bugle
02-26-2006, 07:11 PM
Ok I'm a halfbasque african american female redneck. (HBAAFR)

Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

Ponce Cuba
02-26-2006, 07:41 PM
Odd first post - odds are that this is a nym-shifter.

GKhan probably has the tools to say with more accuracy. Most people don't know what it takes to be truly anonymous.

Regards

Ken

Back in 1997 I paid a detective $500.00 in order for him to find out anything that he could about me, it usually cost only $125.00,

He came back to me three weeks later and said to me " who are you" hahahahahaha where others have at least a seven pages report he only had half a page on me.

I knew that that would be the case but I wanted evidence...... with cash and the proper ID you can do wonders and that's why the government wants to get rid of the fiat and replace it with a debit card and give us all a "constant" ID number......I don't know why, we already have the SS number.

GoldWampum
02-26-2006, 07:52 PM
Ok I'm a halfbasque african american female redneck. (HBAAFR)

Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

Ahhh see, now that is much more common, eh? Everybody knows at least one of those.:haha:

chewy
02-26-2006, 09:52 PM
The future is converging? Darn! I hate when that happens. :confused:

Hatha Sunahara
02-27-2006, 12:52 AM
I find the reactions to this post interesting. It tells me that if anyone read the Protocols, they didn't sink in--or weren't understood. If you are interested in reading them, herer are a couple of URLs where you can do so:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

http://www.aztlan.net/protocols.htm

Not a difficult thing to Google this.

I should point out that the people who are accused or writing it (the Jews) or whoever did actually write it if they didn't--knew a lot about the creation of money, and the manipulation of markets, and about political power. They also knew a lot about how to influence people by controlling the media. These protocols first appeared in 1905--one hundred years ago. And yes, it does appear to be the absolute far end of the lunatic fringe conspiracy theory of an intergenerational plan to take over the world. But, just because the mainstream thinking dismisses it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's the obverse of the proposition that 'just because a million people believe a lie, doesn't make it the truth.'. Just because a few people believe this, doesn't make it a lie.

What we are looking at are clues about what is happening. What we have all been trained to do--by our education in public schools, by the mainstream news media, and by our popular culture is to conform and obey. So we dismiss things that are out of the ordinary, or that differ from 'conventional wisdom' without even examining them.

I can only urge you to read the Protocols. I've known about them for decades, but I didn't read them until about six months ago. I was astonished about the contents. About what it says. About the attitudes. See if reading this document doesn't cause a few things to fall into place. For example, how could they take over the world in one day? Does the spectre of a 'global financial collapse' suggest a very quick change in institutional control of the world? The only way to take over the world that quickly is if you control the creation of money, or if you control the people who create it. And it's much easier if there is one world wide dominant currency that everyone accepts such as the dollar. The entire plan is in the Protocols. I don't know where else you can go to find a written plan to take over the world. Didn't someone once say that the best place to hide something is in plain view? Well, folks, here it is. Read it. Think about it. If you don't like, find a way to subvert it. I'm just the messenger. I'm pointing this out becaue it made me think. It really is interesting to see what it is doing to you folks.

And I am not a former member of this forum. I registered for the first time a little over a month ago because I find the discourse here interesting. What I think most of you guys need to do is learn to 'temporarily remove yourself from your culture' when you are analyzing things. I think it was Einstein who said something to the effect that 'A reverence for authority is the strongest enemy of the truth.'

I personally think that the highest authority is the truth--and anything else that smacks of authority is a lie.

And finally, if you think this is all BS about everything converging into a 'hinge of history' in the last week of next month, then go ahead an laugh and do nothing. I think the reason most people would visit a gold forum is for the same reason you would buy gold--as a safe haven in uncertain times. Isn't there some virtue in trying to understand history that is happening in front of our eyes by finding out the truth about it?

Hatha Sunahara
:proud:

Jasper
02-27-2006, 04:36 AM
This is of course the extreeme end of the lunatic fringe area of conspiracy theory.

Quaking in my boots

Sincerely
AAFR (african american female redneck)

You appear to be suffering from a rather common ailment. It's what I call the omniscience of the uninformed. Sadly it's usually incurable. My post was backed up with solid scientific data. Your posted opinion, since it is backed up by nothing, is worthless.

It amounts to nothing more than the tired old I don't think so non-argument of those who, although having nothing to say, actually believe they have said something with their flippant denials.

Jasper
02-27-2006, 04:46 AM
Those who may be interested will find some intelligent responses to the information I posted at a new thread which has just been started here:

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=29941

Jasper
02-27-2006, 05:16 AM
"Urgent warning of imminent cataclysm in Northwest United States

Posted on February 20, 2006

For the rest see: http://www.weatherwars.info/index.php?news_id=47



This page has since been pulled.

Strange. . .