View Full Version : Where is Ron Paul?
gypsybiker45
09-21-2008, 07:40 PM
I see all this s**t with this bailout, and wonder, "Where is Ron Paul?" isnt he a congressman? Isnt his job to opose on the FLOOR of the house this kind of thing?:banghead:..thoughts?....
G-khan
09-21-2008, 07:42 PM
I see all this s**t with this bailout, and wonder, "Where is Ron Paul?" isnt he a congressman? Isnt his job to opose on the FLOOR of the house this kind of thing?:banghead:..thoughts?....
This is happening behind closed doors and I doubt Ron Paul was invited!
grinningdog
09-21-2008, 07:44 PM
Ron Paul is like every other national political figure looking out for himself. If he stands up against this he knows he will not be reelected.
Golden Eagle
09-21-2008, 07:46 PM
RP has led the horse to water...
Homebrewer
09-21-2008, 07:46 PM
This is happening behind closed doors and I doubt Ron Paul was invited!I could be wrong but I thought he was the ranking member of the house banking committee. You can bet he`s opposing this measure, not that it will do any good.
gypsybiker45
09-21-2008, 07:54 PM
This is happening behind closed doors and I doubt Ron Paul was invited!
Doesnt matter, he knows the score, he can tie up the floor as long as he can still speak.they need congressional approval for this, and if someone would do this, it would draw attention, no excuses any longer, this is our kids future.
phideaux
09-21-2008, 07:58 PM
Where is Ron Paul?
The fools in Congress sure aren't going to listen to him, so why waste his time, Instead he has been all over cable TV voicing his opposition to the bailout directly to the American people. Most of the Sheeple won't listen either, but Ron Paul is trying.:applause_:applause_
RP is one man, and he's up against the group of men and woman who want to do nothing of productive value but leach off of the American Taxpayer.
They're so used to just sitting around voting on useless meaningless legislation that if something comes up that they don't know what it is, they'll just rubber stamp it.
Our elected representatives are whores and thieves, nothing more, you can't expect one man to change the moral compass of those who lavish depravity.
He is but one man among those who wish to just collect a bloated paycheck. They won't bite the hand that feeds them.
Merlin
09-21-2008, 08:03 PM
Ron Paul is like every other national political figure looking out for himself. If he stands up against this he knows he will not be reelected.
That may well be. But I've seen him interviewed on TV saying that this whole problem originated with irresponsible lending, rigging interest rates artificially, and creating US$s out of thin air. He said that problems caused by the Fed printing money are unlikely to be solved by the Fed printing even more money for bailouts, that the government needs to get out of the way and let markets resolve the problems, and that in the end the bailouts will only make things worse when markets inevitably have their way.
I don't know how much more clearly you'd like to have him articulate his position; but Ron Paul has not been in hiding. I saw him on CNN at 6:00 in the morning and on Anderson Cooper 360 at 9:00 at night. The mainstream media has actually given him time to express his opposition to the bailout. And he's not the only one. I'm not hopeful though. I think that, at the end of the day, old boy cronyism among bankster buddies and Congress critters will win the day for the forces of evil.
gypsybiker45
09-21-2008, 08:09 PM
I Agree i seen him on Glenn Beck, and heard about him on the other news shows, but, to me,"They wont listen anyway" is not an answer, i mean what good is a congress if they dont act on their authorities?
G-khan
09-21-2008, 08:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfUKZOHtRs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI4tVPXlQsM
sirgonzo420
09-21-2008, 08:46 PM
Ron Paul is like every other national political figure looking out for himself. If he stands up against this he knows he will not be reelected.
Grinningdog = Full of shit.
Look at Ron Paul's voting record...
Can you tell me ONE other congressman who has a constitutional voting record?
grinningdog
09-21-2008, 08:51 PM
Grinningdog = Full of shit.
Look at Ron Paul's voting record...
Can you tell me ONE other congressman who has a constitutional voting record?
I am full of shit , how about your comment on this then.
http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2007/07/ron-pauls-personal-pork-projects.html
Merlin
09-21-2008, 08:56 PM
...what good is a congress if they dont act on their authorities?
Oh, but they do act on their authorities. It's just that they get their marching orders from moneyed lobbyists, not from the voters, not from we the people.
G-khan
09-21-2008, 09:05 PM
I am full of shit , how about your comment on this then.
http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2007/07/ron-pauls-personal-pork-projects.html
He puts in those request (earmarks) each year and then votes against it. It does get passed by the other members. He explained that at least he might as well get some of their tax money back for them and not let it be spent in Washington.
Ron Paul is a good hard working man and it seems you are trying to find out he is like most of the rest of them. Maybe you don't like him telling the truth about the buck and Fed?
specsaregood
09-21-2008, 09:13 PM
I am full of shit , how about your comment on this then.
http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2007/07/ron-pauls-personal-pork-projects.html
As he has explained before: the budget is already set. The earmarks simply let him try to get the money back for his district. Without the earmarks the money is spent by the unelected bureaucrats in whatever way they see fit. AND he votes against the bills. He hedges his bets and does what he is elected to do which is put those earmarks in for his constituents. Clear enough?
Also, he has been on TV more this past week then even during his campaign season. They are all putting him on, but he is just howling at the wind it seems....
deadheadharry
09-21-2008, 09:15 PM
Get off the earmarks, unless you want some scum figuring out what to do with your $.
sirgonzo420
09-21-2008, 09:25 PM
::grinningdog is frantically searching for anything negative about Ron Paul::
g-dog,
Give it up. Ron Paul is the best congressman in office; can you disagree with that?
If you disagree, then what are you doing here? It's ridiculous that a GIMmer would display such ignorance.
Because you are at "goldismoney", one can assume that you support honest, lawful money (just like Ron Paul, and about NOBODY else in congress). I personally believe you are here to stir shit up and just generally be an ass.
If you don't respect Ron Paul, then do you even support gold as money (or at least oppose fiat)? If not, then why the hell are you here, and why won't you move on and leave the serious GIMmers alone?
I would really like an answer. Inquiring minds want to know.
deadheadharry
09-21-2008, 09:27 PM
But He is RACIST!!
specsaregood
09-21-2008, 09:32 PM
But He is RACIST!!
He sure is! He loves to race, he was a track star in High School. :D
sirgonzo420
09-21-2008, 09:37 PM
He sure is! He loves to race, he was a track star in High School. :D
:applause_:applause_:applause_
True story!
deadheadharry
09-21-2008, 09:38 PM
hahaaa :) nice work
grinningdog
09-21-2008, 09:47 PM
::grinningdog is frantically searching for anything negative about Ron Paul::
g-dog,
Give it up. Ron Paul is the best congressman in office; can you disagree with that?
If you disagree, then what are you doing here? It's ridiculous that a GIMmer would display such ignorance.
Because you are at "goldismoney", one can assume that you support honest, lawful money (just like Ron Paul, and about NOBODY else in congress). I personally believe you are here to stir shit up and just generally be an ass.
If you don't respect Ron Paul, then do you even support gold as money (or at least oppose fiat)? If not, then why the hell are you here, and why won't you move on and leave the serious GIMmers alone?
I would really like an answer. Inquiring minds want to know.
How about putting down your phalic symbol for a minute and use your brain. I guarantee you that there is no one answer to our problems. Being a far out radical will not be accepted so you simply waste your time and everyones energy that would like to find an acceptable solution. I have said since day one I would not vote for Ron Paul, not because I disagreeded with most of his thoughts, hell I had them long before he did. But you cannot overnight do away with the IRs, Income tax, the flat tax is the dream of the wealthy, and you have to be able to assemble a majority of voters to change anything. That means you have to promote change on an evolutionary scale not a revolutionary scale. I don't think this problem can be solved in less than the next 25 or 30 years, but we need to start now. You are not helping the cause you are delaying any possible solution. The faster the people here realize that the better chance we have of stoping a complete meltdown of the American way of life. You know I thought once before about leaving this site and didn't now I will. It is of no use in trying to have reasonable intelligent conversations with a segment of society that has closed its mind to alternate solutions. In parting the only thing I can say is none of you with this mindset will play any meaningful part in the future of the US, no matter the outcome. You are a fringe minority wrapped up in your own little world wishing for the destruction of everyone but yourself. I would bet you will not profit from this mindset. I apologize to those that may not fit this description, however the vocal majority on here do. So long. To the moderators please pull my membership. thanks.
specsaregood
09-21-2008, 09:57 PM
But you cannot overnight do away with the IRs, Income tax, the flat tax is the dream of the wealthy, and you have to be able to assemble a majority of voters to change anything. That means you have to promote change on an evolutionary scale not a revolutionary scale. I don't think this problem can be solved in less than the next 25 or 30 years, but we need to start now. You are not helping the cause you are delaying any poslsible solution. The faster the people here realize that the better chance we have of stoping a complete meltdown of the American way of life.
Spoken by somebody that obviously has never read or really listened to the man. You speak the views of the media that sought to scare the public of him. HE SAID EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, MANY TIMES! He acknowledged in many interviews that his changes couldn't take place immediately. In fact if you read most of his bills they are incremental steps to turn the tide back. His bill to legalize competing currencies for example:
excerpt:
In the absence of legal tender laws, Gresham's Law no longer holds. If people are free to reject debased currency, and instead demand sound money, sound money will gradually return to use in society. Merchants would have been free to reject the king's coin and accept only coins containing full metal weight.
The second step to reestablishing competing currencies is to eliminate laws that prohibit the operation of private mints.
Full article: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul434.html
You are obviously misinformed. I suggest actually reading his words and listening to him. He continuously promotes gradual steps towards his philosophical views. Not a revolutionary upheaval.
Atahualpa
09-21-2008, 09:58 PM
He sure is! He loves to race, he was a track star in High School. :D
State Champion!
Golden Eagle
09-21-2008, 09:58 PM
g-dog if you truly want to help your country and your family, please consider joining the www.campaignforliberty.com now to promote positive change for peaceful revolution and evolution for America's future.
sirgonzo420
09-21-2008, 10:03 PM
How about putting down your phalic symbol for a minute and use your brain. I guarantee you that there is no one answer to our problems. Being a far out radical will not be accepted so you simply waste your time and everyones energy that would like to find an acceptable solution. I have said since day one I would not vote for Ron Paul, not because I disagreeded with most of his thoughts, hell I had them long before he did. But you cannot overnight do away with the IRs, Income tax, the flat tax is the dream of the wealthy, and you have to be able to assemble a majority of voters to change anything. That means you have to promote change on an evolutionary scale not a revolutionary scale. I don't think this problem can be solved in less than the next 25 or 30 years, but we need to start now. You are not helping the cause you are delaying any possible solution. The faster the people here realize that the better chance we have of stoping a complete meltdown of the American way of life.
Do you support fiat "money"?
You support the unlawful income tax (inflationary brake) and the IRS (agent of the IMF)?
Will you agree that the US is communist (read the 10 planks of communism)?
Do you support globalism?
By the way, I am not a "radical"... Obama is a radical. I do NOT support world communism; I support the supreme sovereignty of the individual.
sirgonzo420
09-21-2008, 10:10 PM
How about putting down your phalic symbol for a minute and use your brain. I guarantee you that there is no one answer to our problems. Being a far out radical will not be accepted so you simply waste your time and everyones energy that would like to find an acceptable solution. I have said since day one I would not vote for Ron Paul, not because I disagreeded with most of his thoughts, hell I had them long before he did. But you cannot overnight do away with the IRs, Income tax, the flat tax is the dream of the wealthy, and you have to be able to assemble a majority of voters to change anything. That means you have to promote change on an evolutionary scale not a revolutionary scale. I don't think this problem can be solved in less than the next 25 or 30 years, but we need to start now. You are not helping the cause you are delaying any possible solution. The faster the people here realize that the better chance we have of stoping a complete meltdown of the American way of life. You know I thought once before about leaving this site and didn't now I will. It is of no use in trying to have reasonable intelligent conversations with a segment of society that has closed its mind to alternate solutions. In parting the only thing I can say is none of you with this mindset will play any meaningful part in the future of the US, no matter the outcome. You are a fringe minority wrapped up in your own little world wishing for the destruction of everyone but yourself. I would bet you will not profit from this mindset. I apologize to those that may not fit this description, however the vocal majority on here do. So long. To the moderators please pull my membership. thanks.:bear_w00t::D:applause_:applause_:applause_ :adore::9536::coolbeer::bear_thumb::bear_happy::yi ppee::yippee::yippee::rofl::yes::wavey::s1::elefan t::ARMS1::smile::emotions16::clap2::bull-smile::aetsch::thumbs up:cooler::grin::signs1:bancha:banana::getdown::bi rthday::s11::laugh_m::marchmell:hello::party::sign s4::top::congrats::laugh::minidancesmall::ciao::em barasse:party30:
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