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Vendico
09-21-2008, 09:14 PM
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

I could have sworn I posted this already but now I can't find it.

The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.
Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.

But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.
After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,” said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.”

The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they’ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones.

Stop-loss will not be in effect, so soldiers will be able to leave the Army or move to new assignments during the mission, and the operational tempo will be variable.
Don’t look for any extra time off, though. The at-home mission does not take the place of scheduled combat-zone deployments and will take place during the so-called dwell time a unit gets to reset and regenerate after a deployment.

The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.
In the meantime, they’ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.
They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.
“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.
“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” said Cloutier, describing the experience as “your worst muscle cramp ever — times 10 throughout your whole body.

“I’m not a small guy, I weigh 230 pounds ... it put me on my knees in seconds.”
The brigade will not change its name, but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced “sea-smurf”).

“I can’t think of a more noble mission than this,” said Cloutier, who took command in July. “We’ve been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ... and depending on where an event occurred, you’re going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones.”
While soldiers’ combat training is applicable, he said, some nuances don’t apply.

“If we go in, we’re going in to help American citizens on American soil, to save lives, provide critical life support, help clear debris, restore normalcy and support whatever local agencies need us to do, so it’s kind of a different role,” said Cloutier, who, as the division operations officer on the last rotation, learned of the homeland mission a few months ago while they were still in Iraq.

Some brigade elements will be on call around the clock, during which time they’ll do their regular marksmanship, gunnery and other deployment training. That’s because the unit will continue to train and reset for the next deployment, even as it serves in its CCMRF mission.
Should personnel be needed at an earthquake in California, for example, all or part of the brigade could be scrambled there, depending on the extent of the need and the specialties involved.
Other branches included

The active Army’s new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.
Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction-Civil Support Teams.

A final mission rehearsal exercise is scheduled for mid-September at Fort Stewart and will be run by Joint Task Force Civil Support, a unit based out of Fort Monroe, Va., that will coordinate and evaluate the interservice event.
In addition to 1st BCT, other Army units will take part in the two-week training exercise, including elements of the 1st Medical Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade from Fort Bragg, N.C.

There also will be Air Force engineer and medical units, the Marine Corps Chemical, Biological Initial Reaction Force, a Navy weather team and members of the Defense Logistics Agency and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.

One of the things Vogler said they’ll be looking at is communications capabilities between the services.
“It is a concern, and we’re trying to check that and one of the ways we do that is by having these sorts of exercises. Leading up to this, we are going to rehearse and set up some of the communications systems to make sure we have interoperability,” he said.
“I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,” Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.”
So you get it again.

Avalon
09-21-2008, 11:45 PM
not very reassuring since my daughter had a dream a few months ago about soldiers coming to our house to take us away..

JJ_
09-22-2008, 12:27 AM
not very reassuring since my daughter had a dream a few months ago about soldiers coming to our house to take us away..


"best block - no be there"- Mr. Miyagi

http://clientes.netvisao.pt/kapoww/MrMiyagi.jpg

Seriously--

You know as well as I do that dreams like that are a warning.

Mone
09-22-2008, 12:29 AM
"best block - no be there"- Mr. Miyagi

http://clientes.netvisao.pt/kapoww/MrMiyagi.jpg

Seriously--

You know as well as I do that dreams like that are a warning.

If it happened to me I'd at least have some hiding spots prepared. When things get weird I'd sleep in the hiding places.

I am hoping that by being out of the country I may get slightly more warning. I know it will likely come here as well... but a decent warning and we'll disappear.

Mined Games
09-22-2008, 12:11 PM
not very reassuring since my daughter had a dream a few months ago about soldiers coming to our house to take us away..

If that represents the contents of her dreams, I would hate to envision what her nightmares are like!:confused_ma:

Ares
09-22-2008, 12:16 PM
About 4 months ago, I had a dream of police/military personal rounding up people in my neighborhood. I remember it being cold. It wasn't a pleasant dream to say the least. I haven't had it come back, but I do get deja vu a LOT.

Darkside
09-22-2008, 12:33 PM
yeah, i get alot of premonition and deja vu as well. but, fortunately, no images or dreams of soldiers taking me and my family away. i dont know what id do if it came down to that. no place to run to but i could make a fighting stance. would be suicide though.

Ares
09-22-2008, 12:36 PM
yeah, i get alot of premonition and deja vu as well. but, fortunately, no images or dreams of soldiers taking me and my family away. i dont know what id do if it came down to that. no place to run to but i could make a fighting stance. would be suicide though.

Death would be a better outcome than rotting in some federal detention center while they rack up charges left and right. If it comes to that, I will make a stand. I've already taken into consideration that I won't make it to my 40th birthday, and that I would rather die standing than live on my knees.

Avalon
09-22-2008, 12:57 PM
"best block - no be there"- Mr. Miyagi

http://clientes.netvisao.pt/kapoww/MrMiyagi.jpg

Seriously--

You know as well as I do that dreams like that are a warning.

yup... My Daughter is not the only one. I checked some, of the dream sites and many people are having dreams about the military showing up on the doorstep and taking people.
Several posters here have wives who also had a similar dream.

I live in a rural area but its like ground zero if TSHTF because of so many Prison and high security facilities in the closest town. The National Guard is just up the road..

I have a bug out place and plan

Mined Games
09-22-2008, 01:01 PM
Death would be a better outcome than rotting in some federal detention center while they rack up charges left and right. If it comes to that, I will make a stand. I've already taken into consideration that I won't make it to my 40th birthday, and that I would rather die standing than live on my knees.

Tend to agree with you on that, Ares. I'd rather go out in a "blaze of glory", than to meekly submit to the Nazi stormtroopers.

Avalon
09-22-2008, 01:05 PM
yeah, i get a lot of premonition and deja vu as well. but, fortunately, no images or dreams of soldiers taking me and my family away. i don't know what id do if it came down to that. no place to run to but i could make a fighting stance. would be suicide though.

There is no way I would allow my Daughters to be taken by soldiers. When my Daughter had the dream she was shaken up. I promised her it would never happen. The alternative of making a stand and getting it over with is much more humane. She totally understands and agrees.

Its a choice many people in history have faced. I grew up stories of the women and children in Greece who made the choose to jump off the cliffs rather then being taken prisoner by the Turks.

Boy what a depressing subject.

Ares
09-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Tend to agree with you on that, Ares. I'd rather go out in a "blaze of glory", than to meekly submit to the Nazi stormtroopers.

Even if I'm alone, it won't matter. I will not go silently into the night. No way no how.

WeedMonger
09-22-2008, 01:07 PM
not very reassuring since my daughter had a dream a few months ago about soldiers coming to our house to take us away..

In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed; Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction, That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man.

renegade_01
09-22-2008, 01:15 PM
If they are plannign some shit I am going out in a BLAZE OF GLORY.:applause_

If you never died you never lived....

They can do what they want to do...just like me. I choose freedom, and if it means I die by the gun, then so be it. Nobody on my block will be taken captive if I have anything to do about it.

Heimdhal
09-23-2008, 02:30 AM
instead of making all these 'heroic' last stands or 'alternatives' to such, why dont we put out brains and guns to good use and make a first stand. Why are we jumping to the conclusion of the last stand without first discussing the possibility of taking the fight to 'them' first.

Lore
09-23-2008, 02:36 AM
Somebody's been watching reruns of Jericho.

Maddie
09-23-2008, 02:55 AM
Somebody's been watching reruns of Jericho.

Not me. I watched Shaun of the Dead and fell asleep dreaming about fighting zombies. Lol! I was standing in front of my sword collection saying, "This one's got heft, but this one's got a better edge, but this one..." and my husband was saying, "Oh, for God's sake, just pick a weapon!" This is how I will probably meet the Apocalypse. M1A? No, AR15? No,...

Vendico
09-23-2008, 02:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K165YXceYyk&feature=email

JJ_
09-23-2008, 02:21 PM
she's so secksy ...

dare I say chicks w/ balls rock :D

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd394.htm


BATTLE PLAN FOR THE 50 STATES
PART 1 of 2


By: Devvy


September 22, 2008


© 2008 - NewsWithViews.com



"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite." – James Madison, "Federalist No. 45," Jan. 26, 1788


Last week, with the blessing of Bush and most of the U.S. Congress, the robber banker barons threw gasoline onto a bonfire. The financial Mt. Vesuvius hasn't blown yet, but it will, and what was done last week and most likely through today, will be horrific. America has crossed the Rubicon.


Rage continues to build across this country with good reason. It was building back in October, 2003, when I wrote my column, It's All Over Grab the Muskets (http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd22.htm). Change comes one city, one town, one county at a time (http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom109.htm). If you don't try, the bad guys win by default. Great success has come from groups and organizations all over this country on issues like Agenda 21 because all politics are local. We have two levels of government: federal and state. If the states of the Union do not step up to the plate come January and repel the destruction of their sovereignty by the federal machine, they will become nothing more than occupied territories.


The citizens of the states: Your time has come to either step up to the plate or submit to human bondage. I know that millions of caring, decent Americans are trying to fight this leviathan monster out of Washington, DC., but as time has shown, between a completely broken judicial system, rotten career politicians and ignorant, uninformed, disinterested and special interest group voters, we are losing ground. As we continue to see the shredding of the Bill of Rights, Americans are becoming more afraid of the federal government. Take this 13:23 minute video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8298479803481414932&hl=en). Watch it. What you see are Americans who have invested time and money into making a short film because they see the real time danger facing this republic by a growing police state under the guise of "for our own good" agencies like the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA. Nothing could be further from the truth.


Americans continue to see the brutality out there by paramiliarized law enforcement against we the people for exercising peaceful assembly. Years ago, I brought to readers attention the treason (http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd284.htm) by darling of FAUX News, Oliver North:


"1987: Then U.S. Attorney General William French Smith blew the whistle on a fairly low ranking Marine officer by the name of Oliver North. According to Smith, Lt. Col. Oliver North directly helped draft a plan in 1984 to impose martial law in the United States in the event of an emergency. This secret plan would suspend the U.S. Constitution and turn over control of the government to the little known agency at that time: FEMA. This plan would appoint military commanders to run state and local governments. Implementation of this plan would have been triggered by violent and wise spread internal dissent, disagreement with government policy or national opposition to any U.S. military invasion abroad. Essentially, it amounted to a complete and total suspension of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights."


As we all saw with Katrina, the military was brought in and the inalienable rights of the American people were simply stomped on. In the same link above (http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd284.htm), I brought your attention to a look into the future regarding military control of the civilian population:


The next real war we fight is likely to be on American soil.


Our civilian-military face-off (November 30, 1997)


"One startling quote in this article is from Admiral Stanley Arthur, Commander of U.S. naval forces during the Gulf War, where he says, "Today the armed forces are no longer representative of the people they serve. More and more, enlisted as well as officers are beginning to feel they are special, better than the society they serve."


"When you turn to page two of this story, the headlines read, "Bill of Rights no obstacle for the Corps." Another disturbing quote jumps out at you, "Because of the rising potential for civil disobedience within the inner cities it is 'inevitable' the U.S. military will be employed more often within American borders."... Why the concern that there is a potential for civil disobedience by Americans? Where did this come from? .....


"Further into this shocking story: "...Major Reeves notes, when faced with violating doctrine or violating the law, some Marines chose the latter course and detained suspects and conducted warrant less searches. Indeed, with characteristic Marine Corps bluntness, the major states that, "in interviews with Marine officers involved in domestic peacekeeping missions with officers responsible for articulating the Marine Corps' policy on domestic peacekeeping, it became apparent to the author that Marines took whatever action was necessary. At times, these actions required Marines to violate U.S. law.


"Similarly, Marine Capt. Guy Miner reported in the Gazette that Marine intelligence units were initially worried by the need to collect intelligence on U.S. citizens, which would violate a 1981 Executive Order, but that "this inhibition was quickly overcome...." And to chill you even further, "To enable the Marines to execute these new domestic missions in the same way that they do abroad, Major Reeves calls for major alternations in U.S. laws. "Experience from the Los Angeles riots," he warns, "demonstrated the need to grant U.S. Marine forces the legal right to detain vehicles and suspects, conduct arrests, searches and seizures in order to accomplish the peacekeeping mission."


Go ahead, print out the newspaper and read it (http://www.devvy.com/pdf/military_face_off.pdf). If this doesn't give you the daytime version of pavor nocturnus, then you don't grasp the severity of the problem. We are seeing more and more domestic spying on Americans, no knock searches killing innocent people, warrant less searches on flimsy probable cause and 'civilian check points' on our roads and highways. The misnamed 'Patriot Act' continues to be abused by federal dragoons. This is NOT the America thousands spilled their blood for on the battle fields during the Revolutionary War.



In my last column, I once again covered the National ID and it's real purpose. Coming on the heels of this massive financial melt down that will only get WORSE going into next year, consider this headline:


Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1 (http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/)


"3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army.


"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."


It all sounds quite innocent with the mission of "helping" Americans. Just like Katrina. Benevolent mother government. Until you remember the plan Oliver North drew up and the previously mentioned blue print for the Marines to inject themselves into the civilian sector. All triggered by "violent and wise spread internal dissent, disagreement with government policy or national opposition to any U.S. military invasion abroad" or "rising potential for civil disobedience within the inner cities it is 'inevitable' the U.S. military will be employed more often within American borders."


A substantial number of Americans believe this is a gross misuse of our military under The Posse Comitatus Act, a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 16, 1878, prohibiting most members of the federal uniformed services (the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement police or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states, their counties and municipal divisions). In other words, the PCA limited to a great degree the powers of the federal government to use active military for law enforcement.


There have been more laws enacted by Congress over the years explicitly allowing the military to be used in certain domestic scenarios. Legal hawks say the most significant is the 'Military Support for Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies Act of 1981 (“MSCLEA (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/stApIch18.html)”), the purpose of which is to allow the exchange of information and services between military and law enforcement "when necessary" to protect the people and interests of the United States.


Major Craig T. Trebilcock, U.S. Army Reserve, penned a paper titled, 'The Myth of Posse Comitatus (http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/Trebilcock.htm)', in October 2000, where he said: "Is the Posse Comitatus Act totally without meaning today? No, it remains a deterrent to prevent the unauthorized deployment of troops at the local level in response to what is purely a civilian law enforcement matter."


Really? Did you forget New Orleans and WACO, Major Trebilcock? His paper was a justification for use of military within the states of the Union for "domestic terrorism."


It is far too easy for these types of laws to end up being used against the civilian population as evidenced by the rise of Adolph Hitler. For an excellent overview of how Hitler took power, mirroring what we have seen the past seven years, see here (http://www.lewrockwell.com/hornberger/hornberger100.html).



As I said earlier, the rage has been growing exponentially over the past two decades as government becomes more oppressive and now with these monstrous bail outs, looting and pillaging we the people until we end up in rags, the people are really getting steamed:


Mad as hell - taxpayers lash out (http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/21/news/economy/readers_on_bailout/index.htm?cnn=yes)


We asked you what you had to say about the bailout, and we heard you loud and clear: 'No way!'



"NO NO NO. Not just no, but HELL NO," writes Richard, a reader from Anchorage, Alaska. "This is robbery pure and simple," Anna from Denver posted on CNNMoney.com's TalkBack blog this weekend. "It's our money! Let these companies die," added Claudio from Plainville, Conn." For part two click below.


Click here for part -----> 2 (http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd395.htm),