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gunner
03-25-2006, 06:00 PM
Just came across this, didn't see any previous discussions when I did a search...any thoughts?

'Banana Republic' Colored U.S. Money
The currency devaluation is here
Here is an important article By Cliff Droke
The coming currency devaluation

After repeated warnings from currency analysts and market advisors (including yours truly) that the U.S. currency system is on the verge of becoming a blocked, two-tier system we now have confirmation that the country is one step closer to realizing this. When fully implemented, the new U.S. dollar will mean a "banana republic" type currency and across-the-board devaluation.

According to a CNN/Money news wire report of Oct. 7, the new U.S. $20 bills will be released this week at banks across the country. Meanwhile, the Fed and its Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) will hold a nationwide series of publicity events as part of a $33 million campaign to let the world know of the new bills and to acclimate the public to their strange new appearance.

The new $20s are peach-toned with the presence of blue ink, making it the first time in almost 100 years that a mass-circulation U.S. note has prominently contained a color besides green and black. They also contain an embedded vertical plastic strip and color-shifting ink, whose appearance changes from copper to green as the bill is tilted against the light. Below is what the front of the new $20 bill looks like (from the BEP website). [Note, which has a really odd name: The Money Factory click here (http://www.moneyfactory.com/)]
So what is the significance of this change of color in the U.S. $20 note? Well according to the Feds it is designed as a deterrent to stop counterfeiters. But accordingly to currency analyst Lawrence Patterson, who authored the 1994 monograph titled "Currency Recall", which accurately forecast the new multi-colored notes, the new colored money is part of a two-tiered currency system that will have drastic implications for investors and non-investors alike here in the U.S.
Patterson calls the new notes "crayola currency" and claims they will circulate domestically while the normal green currency that we've grown accustomed to will circulate offshore all over the globe. According to commentator Terry Savage, "Two-thirds of the U.S. paper currency is circulating in foreign countries." With the coming two-tiered currency system, foreigners will continue to be allowed to use the greenback while U.S. citizens will be stuck with the "crayola currency" which cannot be exchanged.

Patterson forecasts the coming use of foreign exchange controls for the U.S. dollar domestically, which would prohibit Americans from transferring capital to any other world currency. Again, this is discussed in Patterson's now-classic monograph "Currency Recall" (which I've read and highly recommend to students of currency policy and investors seeking to retain the value of their investments).

Patterson states, "I want every one...to think carefully about this...because we are coming very, very close to the end of the freely convertible domestic dollar. The cut in value could be as much as 50%...I believe those holding gold bullion bars offshore and bullion coins domestically will be very surprised to find that special regulations will prohibit them from profiting."

He further maintains that coin dealers are under a strict Treasury regulation and must report your sales of some coins but not others. The rule is as follows: Coins with a premium above 15% do not have to be reported. In addition to the 1099 report, filed by the coin dealer, you have to declare any capital gains as well."

He continues, "The existence of this rule, I believe, indicates an intent to outlaw the ownership of bullion coins altogether! However, the rule will not remain at 15% necessarily and could be changed to a higher percentage, which is unknown at this time. Obviously, you do not want to own any investment coins with a premium of 15% or less and better stay at the 25% or 30% level to be safe." Patterson points out that complications for the government would clearly arise should numismatic collectibles be forcibly confiscated since the bullion coins' value can be determined by the London gold fix, but not so for collectibles. "The price of the collectible coin may or may not be easily determined as numismatic valuables are routinely auctioned off at prices of not only tens of thousands of dollars, but hundreds of thousands of dollars per item," he observes. "It is difficult to imagine just how this would all be sorted out by the bureaucracy to come up with a calculation of compensation that would relate to the market value." He advises staying in the "safe zone" and exchanging bullion coins not needed for emergencies (such as food or gasoline shortages, et al) for numismatic coins with higher premiums.

Obviously, the introduction of the new peach-colored $20 bill is a test on the American public to see how they respond to the drastic new changes. The CNN/Money article states that the BEP has launched a multi-million dollar promotional campaign aimed at gaining public acceptance of the new currency. For example, the twenties are being featured on game shows, including "Wheel of Fortune" and "Jeopardy," sporting events, like ESPN's college football telecasts. The bills are also part of some consumer product tie-ins, according to CNN/Money, and pictures of the bills will be on the side of bags of Pepperidge Farm Goldfish. If the government succeeds in getting the American public to accept the bills, the other remaining denominations will obviously follow and plans will proceed for the blocked domestic dollar.

Clif Droke
Oct 9, 2003

Quixote2
03-25-2006, 06:38 PM
With the legislated 15% premium, I would guess that junk silver dealer prices would immediately jump to:

Buy at spot plus 15%, and
Sell at spot plus 20%.

Ponce Cuba
03-25-2006, 06:53 PM
Control the currency and you control the people............ to me at one time it was "control the food and you will control the people" but now they will and are controlling everything.

Pretty soon we wont be able to sell our homes or cars without a special permit where the government will get their share no matter the cost.

And "They hate us for our freedom??????" not only is Bush mad but also stupid.

bjgnome
03-25-2006, 08:46 PM
You don't have to worry, Ponce, because I know for sure WSHTF your toilet paper will command more than a 15% premium.

Ponce Cuba
03-25-2006, 09:02 PM
Hehehehehehhehe give me liberty or give me my toilet paper.

And it will give me nothing because is not for sale or trade, the same for my bullets.

gunner
03-25-2006, 10:48 PM
The way I see it, local communities, small towns, like-minded individuals is the only way to circumvent the cashless society conrol grid. Not to be repedative, but educating he masses is the key - silver 90% face - well recognized, universally accepted, non-comfiscatable (imo).

A 2 tier currecy system, cashless society, etc, know what's coming, and be prepared to work within the parameters of the system that's being put in place.

Scary/difficult times ahead, for sure.

wallew
03-27-2006, 08:15 PM
Time to melt the silver down and pour that into bullet molds.

"Silver? What SILVER officer?" "I'm just going to the range to do some shooting. With the price of ammo I have to reload my own now. That's ALL that's back there is reloaded ammo."

BWAHAHAHA!!

I've read about our 'colored' money for more than fifteen years. First article I read was either 1990 or 1991.

californiajeff
04-04-2006, 07:21 PM
This article is BS. Just trying to lure people into buying numismatic coins which are not that highly favored around here.

Sometimes it makes you wonder though where we are headed. Maybe you can relate to my recent experience. I went down to the local drug store yesterday to buy some NyQuil for my cold and I had to sign my name off in their record book since they reported Federal Law now requires all sales of products with Psuedoephedrine to be tracked as of April 1. Could that happen with PM's someday?

The Great Ag
05-20-2006, 01:24 PM
I don't have time to go into detail, but I do not think the colored money is ultimately for a two-tiered system. If it is, so what. People will still spend it just the same. Also, paper money has a limited life span (18 months) for $1. Our presses would have to print two versions, one for the world and one for the US. That type of info would leak out fast. We don't live in a info vacuum anymore.

No worries, I don't think the "wtshtf scenarios" are going to be that bad. I will probably start a thread on that soon, when I have time to get everyone's opinion. I suspect the fit has hit the shan already and we do not know it. More details to come later.

The Great Ag

The Great Ag
05-20-2006, 01:28 PM
Sometimes it makes you wonder though where we are headed. Maybe you can relate to my recent experience. I went down to the local drug store yesterday to buy some NyQuil for my cold and I had to sign my name off in their record book since they reported Federal Law now requires all sales of products with Psuedoephedrine to be tracked as of April 1. Could that happen with PM's someday?

It could happen, I wouldn't put it past our gov't. However, for this type of legislation to be truly effective the gov't 1. has to know the inventory of each dealer, 2. keep monthly inventory records, 3. insure that the dealer records the profits from each sale and 4. reports honestly to the gov't each month. Most people I know would find all kinds of ways to work around this type of system.

Drugs are different and more easily tracked.

The Great Ag

Ardent Listener
05-27-2006, 03:31 PM
I read many many years ago that the goverment was up to this. It sure is taking them a long time to do it.

Ponce Cuba
05-27-2006, 05:48 PM
One way to get around it is that if you know of someone that is coming to the US you could make a deal with him...... he would deposit X amount of the "good" US cash in your name in a bank overseas and when he comes to the US you would give him the same amount (plus5%) is US "bad" fiat.

You could open overseas offices where the deal would be made and as soon as he deposits the cash in your name he would be given a recipe that he would give you here in the US.

This would also be a good way to get around the $10,000 rule of the in and out border money.

I have one more way to do it but keeping that one for myself.

SilverbackAg
06-15-2006, 07:28 AM
That article is pure bunk. The new $20.00 are being issued at military bases in Korea and quite a bit of it finds it way into the local economy.