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Ragnarok
03-26-2006, 02:24 PM
Attention forumers,

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WE NEED YOUR FRIENDS FOR THE "READ THE BILLS ACT"

Friday, March 24, 2006

Congress passes new laws nearly every week. Many of them are huge. Few of them are ever read. No one in Congress really knows what they contain. Sometimes these laws are not even printed before a vote is held. They are often written by lobbyists or staffers, and not by the people we elected. Sometimes they have secret provisions stuck in them at the last moment.
You have to pay for these laws, and live under them. Ignorance of the law is no excuse for you. Only the lawmakers can get away with not knowing what a law contains. THIS HAS TO STOP!
That's why DownsizeDC.org is promoting a law of it's own: the "Read the Bills Act" (RTBA) RTBA is only 2 pages long. You can read it for yourself here:

http://www.downsizedc.org/rtba_legislation.shtml


RTBA's requirements are simple. Every word of every bill must be read before a quorum of the House and Senate before a vote can be held. Those in Congress planning to vote yes on a bill must sign a sworn affidavit, under penalty of perjury, that they have read every word of the bill in question. All bills must be posted in their final form on the Internet for 7 days before a vote can be held. Americans would have an effective defense in court against any bill passed in violation of these stipulations.
The positive results of this law would be profound. Congress would really know what it's doing before it does it. Everything Congress does would be fully exposed to public view. There would be no secret last minute insertions into bills. Real debate could occur. Bills would tend to become shorter and clearer so Congress could bear listening to them read. Fewer bad proposals would be passed by combining them with good proposals. Secret earmarks -- pork projects -- would no longer be secret. The pace of government growth would slow. You would receive real representation, for a change.
What are the objections to this bill?
Congress objects because they wouldn't be able to legislate as much, spend as much, tax as much, and borrow as much. If you're a person who loves Big Government so much that you're desperate to have more of it at any cost, even at the price of passing unread legislation, then you will not want to support RTBA.
The other objection we have heard is that RTBA allows no emergency exception for the 7-day waiting period. But there is good reason for this lack of an emergency exception ...
Provide an emergency exception and everything will become an emergency in the eyes of Congress, even if super-majorities are required to declare an emergency. But there are no emergencies that would be mishandled because of the 7-day waiting period. Indeed, most emergencies require cool heads, not a panicked response. Moreover, if America is attacked or threatened the President already has the power to respond. Example: Absolutely nothing would have changed about World War II if Congress had waited 7-days to formally declare war on Japan after Pearl Harbor. Nothing would have changed about 9-11 either. Or the Katrina disaster. No emergency exception is needed.
Give Congress and inch and they'll take a mile. RTBA gives no inches.
RTBA is a powerful tool for restoring responsible government. You have the power to make Congress pass RTBA. A mere 32,000 messages have already motivated some in Congress to take the first anemic steps in the right direction. No one in Congress wants to claim they shouldn't read the laws they pass. Apply pressure on them and they will eventually crack. YOU can apply pressure right now by taking 3-minutes to send your first message to Congress asking them to pass RTBA.


http://www.downsizedc.org/read_the_laws.shtml



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Ragnarok

Book
03-26-2006, 02:40 PM
LOBBYISTS actually write the Bills so why bother reading them before they are "sponsored" by our Legislators?

Ragnarok
03-26-2006, 02:59 PM
Because those unread BILLS turn into LAWS that are subsequently used against YOU. Capiche?

Ragnarok

Tn...Andy
03-26-2006, 03:25 PM
I think having to read them would come under the "cruel and unusual" punishment prohibition.

Book
03-26-2006, 03:25 PM
"Because those unread BILLS turn into LAWS that are subsequently used against YOU. Capiche?" -Ragnarok
Yeah...after my Senator gets done dining with his Puppetmasters (http://www.aipac.org/) he will join me at McDonald's over a BigMac for a little chat about this. I'll call him right now and invite him for lunch tomorrow. Bring your Senator too and I'll buy. :bawling:

DrillAndFill
03-26-2006, 04:37 PM
I think having to read them would come under the "cruel and unusual" punishment prohibition.

LOL

Can you imagine? Worse than reading the Book of Numbers, or Ulysses.

Ragnarok
03-26-2006, 04:56 PM
I think having to read them would come under the "cruel and unusual" punishment prohibition.
A right and proper punishment for the mess they've gotten America into, IMHO. The whole point is, make them accountable for what they pass. They SHOULD be reading and considering every bill!! That would greatly reduce the toxic flood of bad law.

Ragnarok

joewp
03-27-2006, 12:32 AM
The irony is this bill would be the only one they will read, and it will die in committee.:puke:

Ragnarok
03-27-2006, 09:09 PM
Yeah, I know..... it will have a much better effect if everyone in the country chose to vote neither Democrat or Republican, now that would send a message.

Reading the bills should have been required by the Constitution, but the Founding Fathers obviously thought that little detail was a GIVEN. Sigh...

Ragnarok

FiftySense
04-18-2006, 05:05 PM
If our forefathers only knew... Their graves would turn into hamster wheels.

J.D.Rockinfeller
04-26-2006, 12:09 PM
If they cant/wont read the constitution, what makes us think that they will read anything else??:banghead:

teslacoils2006
04-30-2006, 07:35 PM
http://groups.msn.com/psycologicalwarfare/yourwebpage21.msnw

they read it

the real candidates are fighting for votes as the fake governors pretend they can not read....Check out the link and my site
http://groups.msn.com/psycologicalwarfare

J.D.Rockinfeller
05-03-2006, 05:53 PM
If they cant/wont read the constitution, what makes us think that they will read anything else??:banghead:

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