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Jasper
04-14-2006, 10:36 AM
Take a look at what microwaving does to water. Incredible pictures:
http://www.execonn.com/sf/
If it does this to water, imagine what it does to food.
:eek:
californiajeff
04-14-2006, 12:38 PM
Holey Moley!
Does this mean I should stop using the microwave to make hot tea in the morning?
:confused:
Ponce Cuba
04-14-2006, 12:57 PM
I was thinking (as usual) I feel that it would be good to micro your warter, let's say, for 30 seconds in order to kill all the bugs in it......like in those places like where Catrina made a hit?
demosfen
04-14-2006, 01:16 PM
One of the best things you can do for your health is throw out your microware. I barely ever use mine, especially now after reading all the tips in the thread about thermos cooking (in survival prep subforum).
If you have to use a microwave, it's best to use cheaper models with low output, don't go after more powerful ones
Jasper
04-14-2006, 02:09 PM
Holey Moley!
Does this mean I should stop using the microwave to make hot tea in the morning?
:confused:
I should think so. Unless you want to end up looking like the plant on the left.
What the heck are you using a microwave to make tea for, anyway?
You're kidding, right?
californiajeff
04-14-2006, 06:10 PM
I should think so. Unless you want to end up looking like the plant on the left.
What the heck are you using a microwave to make tea for, anyway?
You're kidding, right?
Basically, I heat a cup of hot water in the microwave and then throw a tea bag in it when I am at work. I think I am gonna go look for a small electric water heating thing to make my tea in the morning.
When I saw the dead plant, it deeply concerned me. I have been a hardcore microwave user the last 10 years and one of the reasons has been for it's convenience. I am starting to wonder if this is causing problems with my health.
Jasper
04-15-2006, 03:37 AM
When I saw the dead plant, it deeply concerned me. I have been a hardcore microwave user the last 10 years and one of the reasons has been for it's convenience. I am starting to wonder if this is causing problems with my health.
You should run a search on the internet. There's lots of stuff about the dangers of microwaving. Apparently the effects of consuming microwaved food cause changes in the blood immediately.
For the pros and cons take a look here: http://tinyurl.com/q656h
demosfen
04-15-2006, 10:26 AM
Basically, I heat a cup of hot water in the microwave and then throw a tea bag in it when I am at work.
Maybe you can just make your tea at home and bring it to work in a thermos
Large Sarge
04-15-2006, 10:28 AM
I think some of this has to do with change in the molecular alignment of the water molecules.
Also, Aether/Orgone is usually present in water, and it is very good for all living things, perhaps the microwaves destroy the aether in the water.
TheKingsSon
04-15-2006, 11:34 AM
I got rid of my Microwave oven years ago. Some folks think I'm paranoid/stupid/foolish, etc.
I finally gave in and just say.... well, food tastes better when it's NOT microwave. Nobody disagrees with this.
You would think that the simple "taste test" would be enough to let people know something is "wrong" ??
Why have they spent years and years trying to make food taste good when it's microwaved?? Think about it?
God gave you smell to detect spoiled food (among ohter reasons) I think he gave you taste for that reason as well.
RealityCheck
04-15-2006, 02:33 PM
Two plants doesn't mean anything. She knew which was which, she probably gave extra microwaved water to the one plant to make sure it was getting enough to have an effect and this caused it to die from overwatering. The microwave water plant appers to have wetter soil in each pic.
Probably a fluke.
Jasper
04-15-2006, 04:01 PM
Two plants doesn't mean anything. She knew which was which, she probably gave extra microwaved water to the one plant to make sure it was getting enough to have an effect and this caused it to die from overwatering. The microwave water plant appers to have wetter soil in each pic.
Probably a fluke.
This is hardly logical. If she wanted to cheat, and an intelligent kid would of course have realized that doing so would invalidate the whole experiment, it would have made just as much sense to give extra water to the other plant.
The wetter look in a few of the pictures may simply indicate that the healthier plant had been taking up more water.
I'm surprised that you should be attributing crooked behavior to a child who was intelligent and curious enough to run such an experiment in the first place.
As for the experiment being "a fluke," there is plenty of evidence to suggest that microwaving does have an adverse effect on natural substances, as you would know if you had taken the trouble to read the material at the link I provided earlier.
You say two plants don't mean anything.
I think that two plants mean two plants.
Uncle
04-15-2006, 04:37 PM
Not that it would take $150 000 to repeat the experiment....
Golden Regards
Uncle
Nailbender
04-15-2006, 05:27 PM
I did.
I heat it on the stove top.
Haven't you noticed how much smarter I am lately? :rock:
U really want a answer?
californiajeff
04-16-2006, 04:15 AM
Maybe you can just make your tea at home and bring it to work in a thermos
I think that is what I am going to do. I got a nice Starbucks thermos for Christmas. I think that will work nicely.
Jasper
04-16-2006, 08:18 AM
The Hidden Hazards Of Microwave Cooking:
http://www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards.htm
J.D.Rockinfeller
04-17-2006, 10:41 AM
Though I believe the report, I did notice, the plant on the lefts soil was much wetter........FWIW......
Jasper
04-17-2006, 11:27 AM
Though I believe the report, I did notice, the plant on the lefts soil was much wetter........FWIW......
OK. Maybe the kid, for some reason or other, did end up overwatering. But since water is not the simple substance most people suppose, I'm inclined to think that if this experiment were run under controlled conditions it would produce a similar, though perhaps not quite so dramatic, result. Given the sort of bombardment that molecules undergo when microwaved, it's difficult to see this as having no effect on water.
demosfen
04-17-2006, 11:59 AM
I'm inclined to think that if this experiment were run under controlled conditions it would produce a similar, though perhaps not quite so dramatic, result.
I'm afraid most medical experiments are produced under conditions controlled by the drug companies that finance them one way or the other. Results may vary depending on what makes financial sense. :listen:
RealityCheck
04-21-2006, 10:01 PM
This is hardly logical. If she wanted to cheat, and an intelligent kid would of course have realized that doing so would invalidate the whole experiment, it would have made just as much sense to give extra water to the other plant.
The wetter look in a few of the pictures may simply indicate that the healthier plant had been taking up more water.
I'm surprised that you should be attributing crooked behavior to a child who was intelligent and curious enough to run such an experiment in the first place.
As for the experiment being "a fluke," there is plenty of evidence to suggest that microwaving does have an adverse effect on natural substances, as you would know if you had taken the trouble to read the material at the link I provided earlier.
You say two plants don't mean anything.
I think that two plants mean two plants.
Your not serious are you? :haha:
First of all I never said the child was cheating, but I saw no indication that the amount of water given to each was measured to ensure both plants recieved the exact same amount. If there was no control in the experiment to ensure this, it is not unreasonable to believe that the child might give the microwaved plant a little more water just to make sure that the plant was recieving enough of what ever harmful compounds were produced. After all this was not a blind study and she knew exactly which plant she was giving each water to. Not to mention when plants die due to overwatering they look like the plant in the experiment is the leaves drop etc.
As far as two plants being two plants, well I'm sorry, two samples in a scientific experiment is statistically completely meaningless. Its just fact. There are two many variables that could have affected the experiment. How do you know the plant that died didn't have a disease? Was it over watered? etc
As far as attributing crooked behavior to a child (which I didn't) thats just too funny. If you think kids, even competetive and successful ones, never cheat your mistaken. They are after all, kids.
I'm not saying its impossible for the microwave to have caused this, but basing an opinion on these results it borderline laughable. I just don't see this standing up to the scientific scrutiny of a peer reiview, but hey thats just me. :haha:
Ponce Cuba
04-21-2006, 10:10 PM
I noticed that no one answered my question........ any one here with brains that knows the answer?
Again...... could you micro your water for ten of twenty seconds in order to kill the bugs before you drink it without harming the water???
Jasper
04-22-2006, 06:18 AM
Again...... could you micro your water for ten of twenty seconds in order to kill the bugs before you drink it without harming the water???
Ponce OM, sorry about not replying earlier.
Good question. If microwaving harms water then you would harm the water. I'm inclined to think it does.
Probably more effective at killing bugs would be to use an ANT-BACTERIAL ULTRA-VIOLET LAMP (i.e. not the kind you use for getting a tan).
But it would be simpler just to add a bit of COLLOIDAL SILVER to the water maybe half-an-hour or so before you drink it.
This would kill anything in the water.
Such CS-enhanced water would also be very good for your health as it strengthens the immune system.
Store-bought CS can be pretty expensive but you can make your own CS very cheaply. There's lots of good advice in the CS thread here at GIM.
If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask.
SALUD! :beer:
Jasper
04-22-2006, 06:39 AM
... she probably gave extra microwaved water to the one plant to make sure it was getting enough...
... I never said the child was cheating...
LOL
:haha:
Infidel
04-22-2006, 07:41 AM
A graph can not be made from 2 data points
demosfen
04-22-2006, 09:02 AM
Why not? Just connect them
Veritas
04-22-2006, 10:59 PM
Two plants doesn't mean anything. She knew which was which, she probably gave extra microwaved water to the one plant to make sure it was getting enough to have an effect and this caused it to die from overwatering. The microwave water plant appers to have wetter soil in each pic.
Probably a fluke.
And you are willing to take that chance? I think it is fair to say that anyone lacking common sense would argue that microwaving the food you eat is no more harmful to your body than cooking it over an open flame or on a grill. Surely, anyone who has studied the effects of microwave radiation on organic compounds would know that the molecular structure is altered in such a way that the human consumption of such foods over a given period of time would cause adverse health effects in that person.
In your case, RealityCheck, I wonder which situation is true to you. Do you lack common sense, or are you simply uneducated on the subject? In either case, it would be best that you not make such assumptions.
GoldWampum
04-22-2006, 11:23 PM
Why not? Just connect them
OK, a meaningful graph.
gpond
04-23-2006, 01:02 AM
Looks to me like the plants on the left (in dirt) were cut off with scissors. Furthermore, it does not appear to me that any attempts were made to conceal it. Anyone who believes the results of this experiment, maybe ought to repeat the experiment themselves. Like Uncle said, it couldn't cost much. I may try it myself.
gpond
04-23-2006, 01:04 AM
PS. At what temperature was the microwaved water applied to the plants? heh.. heh... That could explain a lot.
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