The Prime Cause and Prevention of Cancer

[gpond]

The Prime Cause and Prevention of Cancer
Dr. Otto Warburg
Lecture delivered to Nobel Laureates on June 30, 1966
at Lindau, Lake Constance, Germany


There are prime and secondary causes of diseases. For example, the prime cause of the plague is the plague bacillus, but secondary causes of the plague are filth, rats, and the fleas that transfer the plague bacillus from rats to man. By the prime cause of a disease, I mean one that is found in every case of the disease.

Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. Almost anything can cause cancer. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. The prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen (oxidation of sugar) in normal body cells by fermentation of sugar.

All normal body cells meet their energy needs by respiration of oxygen, whereas cancer cells meet their energy needs in great part by fermentation. All normal body cells are thus obligate aerobes, whereas all cancer cells are partial anaerobes. From the standpoint of the physics and chemistry of life this difference between normal and cancer cells is so great that one can scarcely picture a greater difference. Oxygen gas, the donor of energy in plants and animals, is dethroned in the cancer cells and replaced by the energy yielding reaction of the lowest living forms, namely the fermentation of sugar.

In every case, during the cancer development, the oxygen respiration always falls, fermentation appears, and the highly differentiated cells are transformed into fermenting anaerobes, which have lost all their body functions and retain only the now useless property of growth and replication. Thus, when respiration disappears, life does not disappear, but the meaning of life disappears, and what remains are growing machines that destroy the body in which they grow.

All carcinogens impair respiration directly or indirectly by deranging capillary circulation, a statement that is proven by the fact that no cancer cell exists without exhibiting impaired respiration. Of course, respiration cannot be repaired if it is impaired at the same time by a carcinogen.

To prevent cancer it is therefore proposed first to keep the speed of the blood stream so high that the venous blood still contains sufficient oxygen; second, to keep high the concentration of hemoglobin in the blood; third, to add always to the food, even of healthy people, the active groups of the respiratory enzymes; and to increase the doses of these groups, if a precancerous state has already developed. If at the same time exogenous carcinogens are excluded rigorously, then much of the endogenous cancer may be prevented today.

These proposals are in no way utopian. On the contrary, they may be realized by everybody, everywhere, at any hour. Unlike the prevention of many other diseases, the prevention of cancer requires no government help, and not much money.

Many experts agree that one could prevent about 80% of all cancers in man, if one could keep away the known carcinogens from the normal body cells. But how can the remaining 20%, the so-called spontaneous cancers, be prevented? It is indisputable that all cancer could be prevented if the respiration of body cells were kept intact.

Nobody today can say that one does not know what the prime cause of cancer is. On the contrary, there is no disease whose prime cause is better known, so that today ignorance is no longer an excuse for avoiding measures for prevention. That the prevention of cancer will come there is no doubt. But how long prevention will be avoided depends on how long the prophets of agnosticism will succeed in inhibiting the application of scientific knowledge in the cancer field. In the meantime, millions of men and women must die of cancer unnecessarily.

gpond: What do you folks think of this?

[GoldWampum]

Sounds to me like he is on to something.


Eat right, excercise, ingest live cells, moderation of bad habits, less cancer.

[gpond]

Understanding the body's pH; an introduction to Dr. Carl Reich and Robert Barefoot

The importance of the following sections cannot be overemphasized. Simply put, cancer cannot survive in an alkaline environment even if it's inside your body. We begin with an introduction of Dr. Carl Reich and Robert R. Barefoot, biochemist.

Robert Barefoot has an extensive background as a biochemist specializing in nutritional health research. He has produced a large number of scientific publications on the body's pH and its relationship to degenerative diseases and health. He is one of the authors of The Calcium Factor, along with Carl J. Reich, M.D., and wrote Death by Diet at his wife's request to reduce the scientific language to terms a layman could understand, and so understand the main elements of disease and how to change it.

Originally Dr. Carl Reich came to Robert Barefoot to find out why, when treating his patients with calcium deficiencies such as arthritis, unusual things were happening with his patients' health problems. Their diabetes disappeared, their cancer disappeared, and he asked Barefoot, "What am I doing?"

In 1981, Robert Barefoot and Dr. Carl Reich began intensive medical research into the relationship between disease and nutrition. They were astounded while reviewing medical and scientific libraries because thousands upon thousands of publications written by world renowned scientists and doctors showed that disease and nutrition are in fact related. They confirmed that it is common knowledge that disease could be prevented and cured by diet and that doctors and the public have very little knowledge regarding these issues. There is massive scientific evidence proving all the claims made within their publications, which can be verified at your library.

Dr. Carl Reich and Robert Barefoot also found, as people get older they become deficient in nutrients. They state that one usually thinks a good diet would keep you alive, but apparently it's not what we do eat, it's what we don't eat. These deficiencies cause your body to become very acidic, which triggers cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, heart disease, etc. This is explained molecule by molecule in the publications.

Dr. Otto Warburg (twice a Nobel Prizewinner) and Robert Barefoot are together in their thoughts that most diseases are caused by the body lowering into an unnatural deadly acidic state. Every researcher knows that, so why don't doctors alkalize their patients? Well, most doctors don't know how to alkalize a person because they only get a few hours of education on nutrition. The bottom line is the research is available, and we do know how to properly feed the body and alkalize it. This is amply covered in Dr. Carl Reich and Robert Barefoot's publications Death by Diet and The Calcium Factor and on this website.

Remember, EVERY time Dr. Warburg put a tumor into an alkaline medium, it would die within seconds. According to Dr. Warburg, to kill cancer all you have to do is make your body . . . ALKALINE by taking certain supplements and by following some commonsense health rules.

The basic elements or minerals for raising the body's pH are calcium, magnesium, potassium and other trace metals, as well as vitamins, water, and lots of single malt Scotch whiskey (actually, the last is my contribution to the formula, intended to remind us that humor and good cheer are also critical to health and recovery from disease; so I tell lousy jokes, so what?).

http://www.stopcancer.com/000/017.htm

[gpond]

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<BIG><BIG><BIG><BIG><BIG>Cancer Loves Sugar</BIG></BIG></BIG></BIG></BIG>

<BIG>Every doctor learned back in medical school all about Otto Warburg's discovery; a discovery of humongous proportions, because way back in the thirties Otto discovered the main biochemical cause of cancer, or what differentiates a cancer cell from a normal, healthy cell. So big a discovery was this, that Otto Warburg was awarded the Nobel Prize.</BIG>
Cancer has only one prime cause. It is the replacement of normal oxygen respiration of the body's cells by an anaerobic [i.e., oxygen-deficient] cell respiration. -Dr. Otto Warburg
<BIG>But what else does Warburg's discovery tell us. First off, it tells us that cancer metabolizes much differently than normal cells. Normal cells need oxygen. Cancer cells despise oxygen. In fact, oxygen therapy is a favorite among many of the alternative clinics we've researched. </BIG>
<BIG>Another thing this tells us is that cancer metabolizes through a process of fermentation.</BIG>
<BIG>If you've ever made wine, you'll know that fermentation requires sugar.</BIG>
<BIG>The metabolism of cancer is approximately 8 times greater than the metabolism of normal cells. </BIG>
<BIG>Okay, so here is what we can put together knowing the above: The body is constantly overworked trying to feed this cancer. The cancer is constantly on the verge starvation and thus constantly asking the body to feed it. When the food supply is cut off, the cancer begins to starve unless it can make the body produce sugar to feed itself. </BIG>
<BIG>The wasting syndrome, cachexia, is the body producing sugar from proteins (you heard it right, not from carbohydrates or fats, but from proteins) in a process called glycogenesis. This sugar feeds the cancer. The body finally dies of starvation, trying to feed the cancer.</BIG>
<BIG>Now, knowing that one's cancer needs sugar, does it make sense to feed it sugar? Does it make sense to have a high carbohydrate diet? </BIG>
<BIG>The reason Food Therapies for cancer even exist today (beyond the fact that they work) is because someone once saw the connection between sugar and cancer. There are many food therapies, but not a single one allows many foods high in carbohydrates and not a single one allows sugars, BECAUSE SUGAR FEEDS CANCER.</BIG>
<BIG>Why doesn't your physician tell you this? Hard to tell. Maybe your doctor feels it is his job to cure your cancer, not yours. Maybe because your doctor learned about Warburg, but never put the rest together, never placed nutrition into the equation. Maybe because your physician didn't study nutrition. Heck, as late as 1978, the AMA's official position (found in the Congressional Record) was that nutrition had nothing to do with disease.</BIG>
<BIG>However, those who've paid attention to this sugar craving cancer stuff have come up with some remarkable therapies for cancer. Laetrile (http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/altthrpy2.htm#Laetrile) is just one. Hydrazine Sulfate (http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/altthrpy2.htm#Hydrazine Sulfate), which stops the process of glycogenesis in greater than 50% of all patients with cachexia is another. </BIG>
<BIG>Today, at the University of Minnesota, they are experimenting with a chemotherapy delivered in a "smartbomb." Here's the scoop: the drug is wrapped in a coating that stays intact as it travels through the body, that is until it reaches a location of no oxygen. When it reaches this "no oxygen" location, the coating falls apart releasing the chemotherapy to destroy the cancer, because the only place in your body where there is no oxygen is the cancer site. </BIG>
<BIG>Then there are the food therapies: aimed at starving cancer. Knowing what cancer loves, the cancer patient avoids them. Cancers likes cooked foods over raw (cooking destroys enzymes and heat sensitive vitamins), so check out our article on the cancer diet. (http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/nutrition/diet.htm) And, do not forget, cancer loves sugar. If you dislike your cancer, then don't feed it.</BIG>
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[Mercury Rising]

Nice Post!
Thank you for the invaluable information.
:smile:

[lr777g62d]

Good topic, G. Modern civilization is killing us, IMO. Our bodies were not designed to eat the foods we do, thus the great amount of cancer and other diseases. Through evolution or design (take your pick) the human body operates best under a regime of wild edibles. A return to the forager/gatherer mode of existance would probably eliminate most modern illnesses. Jerry is onto something.

[gpond]

Greens Make the Body More Alkaline.
Raw Family Newsletter, July 2005 by Victoria Boutenko.
Sometimes I feel that in the search for health, we have been going over the same ground for many decades. In the meantime, the most prevalent illnesses, heart disease and cancer, are getting worse every year. Let us look at the statistics.

· Coronary heart disease is the single leading cause of death in America today (466,101 deaths in 1997)

· This year, 1,500 people will die from cancer every day, making it the second leading cause of death in the US.[1]

As I observed both in Russia and in United States the allopathic medicine seems to have been focusing on the secondary causes of disease. To me that's like pushing a car that ran out of gas with your bare hands instead of putting gas in, or comforting a hungry person instead of feeding them. So what is the main cause of disease?

Today we have an ocean of confusing information, articles in which different experts state many different reasons for illness. However, I think that the main reason for illness was stated very clearly in 1931! Over 75 years ago, Otto Warburg was awarded the Nobel prize for his discovery that cancer is caused by weakened cell respiration due to lack of oxygen at the cellular level. According to Warburg, damaged cell respiration causes fermentation, resulting in low pH (acidity) at the cellular level.

Dr. Warburg, in his Nobel Prize winning study, illustrated the environment of the cancer cell. A normal healthy cell undergoes an adverse change when it can no longer take in oxygen to convert glucose into energy. In the absence of oxygen, the cell reverts to a primal nutritional program to nourish itself by converting glucose through the process of fermentation.

The lactic acid produced by fermentation lowers the cell pH (acid/alkaline balance) and destroys the ability of DNA and RNA to control cell division. The cancer cells then begin to multiply. The lactic acid simultaneously causes severe local pain as it destroys cell enzymes. Cancer appears as a rapidly growing external cell covering, with a core of dead cells.

Dr. Otto Warburg finished one of his most famous speeches with the following statement: "…nobody today can say that one does not know what cancer and its prime cause is. On the contrary, there is no disease whose prime cause is better known, so that today ignorance is no longer an excuse that one cannot do more about prevention."[2]

Otto Warburg won the Nobel Prize for showing that cancer thrives in anaerobic (without oxygen), or acidic, conditions. In other words, the main cause for cancer is acidity of the human body.

By the time I read his genius speech, he had been dead a long time. I wonder, if this discovery was so important that he received the Nobel Prize, why doesn't everyone know what pH is?

As soon as scientists discovered what healthy human blood pressure and temperature are supposed to be, devices were invented to measure them. Whenever I went to a doctor, my blood pressure and temperature were measured, but I don't ever remember a doctor measuring my pH. High blood pressure and fever, though not pleasant, do not cause cancer. The acidic condition of the blood does. It is not my opinion; it is what the internationally renowned scientist Dr. Warburg has proven. For this statement he won the Nobel Prize. As the outcome of the recognition of his discovery, I think it is vital to make pH information available at once to everyone.

It makes great sense to me that children should study the pH index of all foods at school and all foods that are sold to the public should have their pH index printed on the content label, together with calories and nutrients. For example, parmesan cheese should have a red warning label with a pH sign saying it is extremely acid forming, -34! While spinach may have a golden medal sign with a pH index +14, as an excellent, alkalizing food. The indexes have been measured in biochemical research and cannot be guessed by just looking at foods. Some of the foods are surprisingly alkaline or acidic; for example, most people are amazed to learn that lemon is one of the most alkalizing fruits, while walnuts are acidifying. I think it's important for the U.S. Department of Agriculture's food pyramid to reflect the pH of different foods as soon as possible. I imagine that many people's health could instantly be improved by their ability to consume alkalizing foods that are more beneficial for human health.

Considering fats to be the main contributor to weight gain is a popular delusion among dieters. This misconception leads to massive confusion and explains why so many overweight people are not succeeding in losing weight. I am sure that many people would be shocked to find out that we may gain weight from eating, say, cheese, not only because it is rich in fat, but mostly due to its high acidic level. In response to high pH acid, the body creates fat cells to store the acid. For example, almonds have 70% fat, and pork has only 58%. However, pork has one of the highest acid values, -38, while almonds are alkaline forming, +3.[3] This is why it is so crucial to know, in addition to nutritional value, the pH index—to have it available and handy at every store, printed on each food label, showing its ability to alkalize the body.

I remember how in 1965 my mother was in tears after reading an article in a Russian health magazine that stated that watermelons and cucumbers do not have any nutritional value. They were our family's most favorite foods. Forty years later, I am learning that cucumbers and watermelons are so alkalizing that they could neutralize the acidifying effect of eating beef. I am glad that my parents continued to buy watermelons, despite of "scientific" recommendations.

Many years ago, back in Russia, when I was studying to be a medical nurse, our professor told us, that the cholesterol in our food did not contribute anything to the blood cholesterol level, because our own liver makes it all. Therefore I was not surprised or disappointed by the diet that my father was receiving while staying at the cardio center. After my dad's massive heart attack, they served him beefsteak with gravy and milk.

Later, after reading a lot of books and articles about the importance of the proper pH balance in the body, I understood, that the so-called "bad" cholesterol, lipoprotein (LDL) is made by our own liver in order to bind the toxins and deactivate the acidic waste that came from certain food, not to cause arteriosclerosis. Unfortunately, I bought my first book on this topic, "Alkalize or Die"[4] two months after my father died from his second heart attack.

Food is not the only cause to alter our pH balance. There are many other factors, such as stress, our mood or music. It is very possible to stay on the best alkalizing diet and still be overweight, tired and unhealthy. Anything that is stimulating could leave an acidic residue in our body; correspondingly any activities that are calming and relaxing could make us more alkaline.

Factors that potentially could make us more acid: hearing or saying harsh or bitter words; loud music and noise; being in a traffic jam; feeling jealousy or revenge; hearing baby crying; overworking and over-exercising; beginning or finishing school; going on vacation; watching scary or stressful movies; watching and listening to TV; talking on the phone for a long time; taking on mortgage; paying bills and credit cards, etc.

Factors that potentially could make us more alkaline: giving or receiving a smile or a hug; laughter and jokes, classical or quite music; seeing a puppy; hearing compliment or blessing; receiving a soft massage; staying in a cozy and clean environment, being in nature, watching children laugh and play; walking and sleeping under the stars and moonlight; working in the garden; observing flowers; singing or playing a musical instrument; sincere friendly conversation, and many others.

I find it helpful for myself to observe my inner body reaction to different events around me, and if I notice unwanted feeling of inner stress I try to make changes not only to my diet but to my whole way of living.

Being uneducated about pH balance breeds a lot of confusion among people who are looking for healthy diets, trying many different things, very often without positive results. For example, in my own experience I have been eating only raw food for many years, which while a vast improvement on my previous diet, did not reach optimal results until I began to eat a lot more greens. I read several books and articles on this subject and bought litmus paper with which to measure my pH. However, every time I measured my saliva or urine, it was almost always acid. So I got even more confused and stopped measuring. I was convinced that my diet was the best it could be, because what could be better than a raw food diet? I never understood the importance of keeping the alkaline balance of my body.

Since I started drinking green smoothies, I decided to check my pH balance once again. I tested both my saliva and urine and was surprised to see that my litmus paper had now the stable green color of alkalinity!
As soon as I clearly noticed the tight connection between the food that we intake and our pH balance, I purchased for my family plenty of pH measurement tape and placed it in the bathrooms and kitchens, available at any time, so we could check our pH balance every day and rest assured that our health is out of danger. After staying so many years on a 100% raw diet, I have come to the conclusion that it is impossible to maintain a good alkaline pH balance without consuming large quantities of dark leafy greens, approximately two bunches or one to two pounds every day. Some people try to keep a normal pH balance by taking supplements containing dried greens. While this is certainly better than eating only French fries, I strongly believe that to consume fresh greens is thousands of times better, because supplements are processed food and their nutrition content is altered, as a result of which some of the nutrients disappear, so that the ratios of the nutrients change greatly. Also, when consumed in forms of capsules and tablets, they enter our body in huge, concentrated doses, and any extra nutrients create extra work for the elimination system.

For this reason, out of all the choices that we have in consuming greens, the green smoothie is a winner, because it is a complete food, it is fresh, and it takes less than a minute to prepare.

Sources:
1: http://yourfuturehealth.com/resources_statistics.htm#cancer
2: The Prime Cause and Prevention of Cancer. Dr. Otto Warburg Lecture delivered to Nobel Laureates on June 30, 1966 at Lindau, Lake Constance, Germany
3: The pH Miracle. Robert O. Young, Ph.D., Shelley Redford Young. 2002, Warner Books, NY
4: Alkalize or Die. Dr. Theodore A. Baroody, Jr. 1991, Eclectic Press, NC

http://www.all-creatures.org/health/greensmake.html

[GoldWampum]

For this reason, out of all the choices that we have in consuming greens, the green smoothie is a winner, because it is a complete food, it is fresh, and it takes less than a minute to prepare.

Have to agree here too. Live green cells.

[gpond]

I am a green smoothie drinker, too. Also a raw food eater, at least for now (five weeks). The results, subjectively speaking, are incredible.

[gpond]

Jerry is onto something.
Yes. I credit Jerry with my investigations into this area.

[softserve320]

Excellent articles.... As I was reading the one on cancer my mind was racing towards the other factors like PH. Than voila!!!!! thx G.....you saved me, or everyone else depending on your perspective, from a possible padantic rant about the health effects of PH....wheeeww :D

I appreciate your posts :clap2:

[GoldWampum]

I am a green smoothie drinker, too. Also a raw food eater, at least for now (five weeks). The results, subjectively speaking, are incredible.

Yep, I need to get back on it in earnest. I feel much better when I do. Greens are pretty powerful though. A little juice goes a long way.

Too much will cause gastric distress.:yippee: AKA, the trots.

[gpond]

Excellent articles.... As I was reading the one on cancer my mind was racing towards the other factors like PH. Than voila!!!!! thx G.....you saved me, or everyone else depending on your perspective, from a possible padantic rant about the health effects of PH....wheeeww :D

I appreciate your posts :clap2:
Please, by all means, treat us to a pedantic rant about the health effects of pH. I suspect I could learn a thing or two, as this is all new to me.

[Lore]

I googled "Smoothie" and found no static definition. Near as I can tell, it's whatever you can put in a cup, whether juiced, frozen, fruit, yogurt or vegetable. What do you guys mean when you use the word "Smoothie?"

Some of these nutritional guidelines are simply ridiculous. If you followed every rule to the letter then there would be nothing left to eat and you'd blow all your life's savings on overpriced alternative health food stores.

[gpond]

Try searching on "green smoothie". A green smoothie is a healthy addition to the diet -- it is being promoted by Victoria Boutenko as a way to add green leafy vegetables to your diet and get the full benefit. The blender essentially chews the leafs for you, so they are easy to digest.

Ode to Green Smoothie:
http://www.emaxhealth.com/14/1182.html

Victoria's site:
http://www.rawfamily.com

[RichG]

Got my Jack O'Lane juicer from COSTCO two weeks ago....been juicing everything in sight....vegies....fruits... all good. I agree....ingest live items and change your PH. Nice find and info gpond. :smokin:

[lhslancers]

Thanks gpond.

[GoldWampum]

Got my Jack O'Lane juicer from COSTCO two weeks ago....been juicing everything in sight....vegies....fruits... all good. I agree....ingest live items and change your PH. Nice find and info gpond. :smokin:

The juicer is the way to go IMO. I have the Juiceman. Some greens with... get this, a little apple, cut the strong taste and you have a pretty good drink. I like to add a little garlic too.

Absorbs easily. I juice almost anything fresh and organic. Apple goes with anything.

[Atahualpa]

One of my favorites: Summer Tonic. (juicer)

3 or 4 carrots
1 beet
1/2 an apple
chunk of ginger

sometimes I throw in a handful of spinach or parsley to green it up.

[GoldWampum]

One of my favorites: Summer Tonic. (juicer)

3 or 4 carrots
1 beet
1/2 an apple
chunk of ginger

sometimes I throw in a handful of spinach or parsley to green it up.

I've had that one too. I use lots of carrots. The ginger gives it a little zing.

[GoldenPoet]

Took me 20 years to shovel out the cash for a Vita-Mix
$450. usd
(heavy duty blender) but Im so glad I did. It pulvarises
veggies and fruits... so you get the benefit of all the fiber.
Worth the investment in good heath. Makes soups and ice
cream too.

and as for all the Green stuff...
try tastier antioxidants such as
Acai Powder and Mangosteen.

[softserve320]

Please, by all means, treat us to a pedantic rant about the health effects of pH. I suspect I could learn a thing or two, as this is all new to me.

Nothing to add G....the info above covers it quite siccinctly.

:coolbeer: = green tea w/ ginseng cheers
Thx again

[Curtman]

Try searching on "green smoothie". A green smoothie is a healthy addition to the diet -- it is being promoted by Victoria Boutenko as a way to add green leafy vegetables to your diet and get the full benefit. The blender essentially chews the leafs for you, so they are easy to digest.

Ode to Green Smoothie:
http://www.emaxhealth.com/14/1182.html

Victoria's site:
http://www.rawfamily.com

Super green algae is what you want, you will find under the label of Spirulina (http://www.spirulina.com/SPBSpirulina.html). I get some stuff (green enzymes from Nikken (http://www.nikken.com/index.cfm?fuse=nutr_over) the magnet people that is great, (very expensive though) but one spoonfull in the first juice of the day and you are good to go.

Green tea is great also but if you want a flavor that is second to none try white tea. Also has a higher level of anti oxidant value.

On the west coast all this stuff is available quite easily.

[MerryL]

I've been preparing a green smoothie every morning for years for me and my son. I buy all my food at Costco:

Organic soymilk
organic greens (lettuce, spinach, etc)
carrots (organic if available)
banana

I thought about getting a Vita-mix but I decided to just keep using the Oster and replacing it when it dies (about every 2 years).

I also have a ionizer that separates drinking water in acid and alkaline and drink that thru the day. I bought it after reading about acid/alkaline and cancer, etc.
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[Lore]

Cheers, thanks all.

[Uncle]

The results, subjectively speaking, are incredible.

Please expound here Ponder.

Golden Regards
Uncle

[gpond]

Nice to see you Uncle!

I wish I had kept better records of my actual weight loss, but alas I did not. I have been on the "diet" for only 5 weeks now, but was eating more fresh raw vegetables from the garden and much less meat for longer than that. What I do know is that my max weight that I spot checked in the winter was 188 lbs. but this morning I weighed 158 lbs. Clearly not all of that weight loss occurred on the diet, but I am fairly certain that I have lost at least 10 lbs in that timeframe and I'm being conservative -- I think I probably have lost a little more than that.

The part I called incredible definitely includes the weight loss and loss of girth, but that is not the sum total. One of the more satisfying aspects is my gain in energy. I would not have classified myself as an energetic person, quite the contrary. I felt tired all the time before this change of diet. Now I am energetic as can be. You may be aware that I suffer from some breathing problems, diagnosed COPD otherwise known as "smoker's disease" (although I no longer smoke).. My breathing has greatly improved! I believe the weight loss has taken some pressure off of my diaphragm allowing easier breathing.

Finally, I have that healthy "glow". I have a long time friend, a hair stylist, who always cuts my hair. After my last visit she called my wife told her how good I look. "It's not fair", she joked, "His skin looks healthier than mine! He has a healthy glow." And the mirror confirms, this is true.

So I have much more energy, I look and feel healthier, and I've dropped one pant-size (so far)!

When I come home from work, I don't just plop down on the sofa worn out. And I'm eating all of these fantastic foods and learning how to make what could rightly be called gourmet foods; raw soups, lasagne, even what passes for bread -- and eating fruits and vegetables that I had never heard of before.

It has been a fun and rewarding ride so far.

[Jasper]

eating more fresh raw vegetables from the garden and much less meat ... weight loss ... incredible ... gain in energy... tired all the time before this change of diet. Now I am energetic as can be....

Finally, I have that healthy "glow".... how good I look. "It's not fair", she joked, "His skin looks healthier than mine! He has a healthy glow."

So I have much more energy, I look and feel healthier, and I've dropped one pant-size (so far)!

It has been a fun and rewarding ride so far.

Congratulations. But this is no big deal. The same thing happened to me.

Anyone who has the sense to stop eating meat and other junk food, and who starts to eat raw fruits and vegetables and drink LOTS of pure water will experience the same results.

Radically increasing one's daily intake of pure water will itself bring astounding health benefits.

But try telling that to sheeple.

[JCarvingblock]

I was looking for information on the production of nattokinase (a fermentation product of steamed soybeans) and stumbled on this anti-cancer site.

Looks really really good, so I figured somebody in the alternative heath sub-group would appreciate this info.

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/cancerselftreatment.htm

FYI from carver

[Curtman]

So I picked up some PH strips today ate a few donuts a Wendy's Frosty and a about two cups of fresh peas pods and all, I like them.

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/salivaphtest.htm

I waited about 5 hours only drinking my apple juice. I waited about a half hour after my last drink and spit in my hand and tested the spit. 6.5 was the result.

I was expecting a much higher level of acid but no. I imagine if I would not have eating the donuts and frosty it would have been a higher alkaline rating.
I am going to test it again tomorrow. I want to see if I can get it to the perfect rate of 7.4,

I have work out my blender I have named it quiver. I was looking at a vitamix but I have wanted a good juicer that is a slow rpm and very good quality. I am looking at that Green Power machine. http://www.greenstar.com/gold.asp#

Does anyone have a better suggestion?