Silver environmental & toxicity concerns

[silverghost]

Toxicity profile for silver:http://risk.lsd.ornl.gov/tox/profiles/silver_f_V1.shtml

Information on Argyria, a medical condition related to over-exposure to silver and silver compounds:http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic595.htm

Information on environmental impact of silver and silver compounds:http://www.inchem.org/documents/cic...ads/cicad44.htm

One more toxicity profile in PDF format: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp146-c5.pdf

Not trying to scare anyone, per the reply below, but simply trying to inform and learn at the same time.

I am currently managing a commercial construction project in Detroit. The site is heavily contaminated with "Michigan 10" metals which include silver. Abatement is underway, and with it, a learning experience for everyone concerned. The state of Michigan has determined that certain concentrations of silver are of concern.

Scientist are studying the longterm environmental impact of silver.

Silver's antibacterial qualities are well-documented, however silver also attacks beneficial microbes with equal rigor. Concentrations of silver in soils and watersheds are apparently wreaking havok on microbial communities and freshwater fisheries. One of the above links reports hyperventilation in salmon as a result of exposure to silver compounds.

(Hey G-Khan, I'll make a deal with you: No more scary stories about colloidal silver in exchange for setting up a "GIM Marketplace" forum. Deal?)

[G-khan]

No deal post that scary stuff all you want... I do agree with you on one thing for sure there are some good bacterias and it will kill those too... From my understanding it can kill the good bacteria in your stomach that helps you digest food. You can easily replace this by eating yogert that has the live bacteria in it. Most of the yogerts do not - we have a kind called "Home" in our area that does have the live in it. In fact I used to use these as a starter to make my own yogert...

You are right silver kills any bacteria it comes in contact with and you do not want it in many areas. In your body in general bacteria is a bad thing and to kill it is good - not in your stomach though...

It seems most of the stories of you turning blue from it are bunk because they are talking about larger size particles of Silver.... not colloidal.

[silverghost]

No deal post that scary stuff all you want... I do agree with you on one thing for sure there are some good bacterias and it will kill those too... From my understanding it can kill the good bacteria in your stomach that helps you digest food. You can easily replace this by eating yogert that has the live bacteria in it. Most of the yogerts do not - we have a kind called "Home" in our area that does have the live in it. In fact I used to use these as a starter to make my own yogert...

You are right silver kills any bacteria it comes in contact with and you do not want it in many areas. In your body in general bacteria is a bad thing and to kill it is good - not in your stomach though...

It seems most of the stories of you turning blue from it are bunk because they are talking about larger size particles of Silver.... not colloidal.

Well, Mr.Khan, might I open the floodgates:

Man dies in colloidal silver overdose after desolving counterfeit 100oz englehard with lead core: http:AMAI.org/medical news/colloidaltoxins

Oregon man ingests homemade colloidal silver, legs fall off: http:internationalsciencereview.info/colloidalhorrorstoriesvolume2

Man in serious condition after eating 5oz silver-towne with glass of water http:colloidalmania.info/silversnakeoil

Ohio man traded on Comex after ingesting 146 lbs of colloidal silver: http:internationaltradepoint.edu/silver/marketreports

I think silver's true benefit lies in water purification and silver containing topical salves, but I'll keep an open mind as this forum builds momentum.

[gpond]

silverghost, G-khan,

One thing's for sure. I have a feeling I'm about to learn something.

gpond

:banana:

[G-khan]

I Gata say I listened to these guys talking about this for 3 years and thought they were all nuts. I now think this may be much more than most think it is and an answer to many problems that people have. My wife is taking a bottle of it to a friend who has a 14 year old boy with severe acne and he will put it on topicly and my guess is it will work when nothing else has.. I will report back on the results she is going to give it to her friend Monday at work.. His acne is the type that scars and this is very rough on a teenager - or anyone for that matter. Think about how you would feel to have a condition where your face is just a big infection....

[gpond]

I Gata say I listened to these guys talking about this for 3 years and thought they were all nuts. I now think this may be much more than most think it is and an answer to many problems that people have. My wife is taking a bottle of it to a friend who has a 14 year old boy with severe acne and he will put it on topicly and my guess is it will work when nothing else has.. I will report back on the results she is going to give it to her friend Monday at work.. His acne is the type that scars and this is very rough on a teenager - or anyone for that matter. Think about how you would feel to have a condition where your face is just a big infection....Ouch!! Been there. Done that.

[G-khan]

silverghost, G-khan,

One thing's for sure. I have a feeling I'm about to learn something.

gpond

:banana:

You will end up buying or making a generator so you can make the stuff for about 79 cents a gallon like me - thats what you will learn.. Oh I put it on two warts I had and had for many years. One is gone and the other is 1/5th the size.. Warts are virus based and this may not work to kill it all the way but it is worth the try - I will let you know if the second one goes away...

[silverghost]

This is especially important now that we have identified that bacteria can develop resistance to antibiotics with alarming efficiency. In fact, new strains develop daily while our ability to develop new antibiotics is quite limited.

I'll go on the search for relative articles wherever I might find them.

[IrishGold]

No deal post that scary stuff all you want... I do agree with you on one thing for sure there are some good bacterias and it will kill those too... From my understanding it can kill the good bacteria in your stomach that helps you digest food. You can easily replace this by eating yogert that has the live bacteria in it. Most of the yogerts do not - we have a kind called "Home" in our area that does have the live in it. In fact I used to use these as a starter to make my own yogert...

You are right silver kills any bacteria it comes in contact with and you do not want it in many areas. In your body in general bacteria is a bad thing and to kill it is good - not in your stomach though...

It seems most of the stories of you turning blue from it are bunk because they are talking about larger size particles of Silver.... not colloidal.The yogurt has to say on the label that it has Acidopholis in it, otherwise it will not have the stuff you need to regenerate the "good guys"

[G-khan]

The yogurt has to say on the label that it has Acidopholis in it, otherwise it will not have the stuff you need to regenerate the "good guys"

Thanks Irish...
I will look for that....

See what happened to Irish hes been using it for years... just look at him......

[IrishGold]

See what happened to Irish he's been using it for years... just look at him......
Now G-khan, that was a black and white pic.
Here is the real me along with the wonderful wife.

[Bobcat]

Now G-khan, that was a black and white pic.
Here is the real me along with the wonderful wife.
Nice picture and it looks like y'all found a choice spot. It looks like your above the 100 year floodplain, but how high did the water level reach during the big flood a couple years ago?

[gpond]

You look like a lucky man. (Not that you don't deserve it).

[IrishGold]

Nice picture and it looks like y'all found a choice spot. It looks like your above the 100 year floodplain, but how high did the water level reach during the big flood a couple years ago?The lake in that picture was a foot below the normal pool elevation of 909 feet above sea level. During the flood of 2002 the lake reached 950.4 feet a.s.l. It doesn't look like a 40+ foot rise in the picture, because you loose perspective in photos, but if you look between the baulisters of the deck railing, off to the right of us, you see a little two-track dirt road. That road was 2 feet under water. The parking lot for the park at the far left and the park itself in the background to the left was all underwater except for the very tips of the tallest trees. There was 7 feet of water going over the spillway down by the dam. Here is a pic of the spillway.

Oh gpond, yes you are right, I am very lucky!

[IrishGold]

Sure- now you went and done it. Somehow I didn't invision you as such. Your wife shows up as a Lady Princess [ This is with utmost Respect from me ] I feel as if I can no longer rag on you. Almost.

Beautiful setting all around. Now I will go and blow it- What's that blue on your arm ?:coolbeer:
Thank you Nailbender, I think she's pretty special too.
Just don't get her riled up 'cause she can rip the head off a silhouette target at 25 feet with her .38 Special.
The blue? It's a tattoo from my first hitch in the military, what else would you think?

[gpond]

You will end up buying or making a generator so you can make the stuff for about 79 cents a gallon like me - thats what you will learn.. If I have learned anything these past 2 or 3 years it is to not bet against you.

[rock1]

Hello All,
I am very new in this discussion forum and going to say about the acne disorder .There are very large number of ointments are used for that but which is the better for which situation is basic problem for all of us.Isotrex gel (http://www.drugdelivery.ca/s3582-s-Isotrex.aspx) is also such type of medication which is used carefully after the suggestion of doctors.

[Silverity]

G-Khan,

Just got my colloid master and am now setting it up.

You reccomended 4 fluid ounces per day or was that just to get you "up to speed"?

[Ponce Cuba]

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/12/21/healthscience/snsilver.php

[ChDyo]

Silver is toxic
http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm

[Prometheus]

Silver is toxic
http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm

I don't where to start on that drivel.

We used many different silver containing products in my hospital every day.

The benefits of silver are astounding and dispite all the other medical advances few things (if any) can take the place of silver in many applications.

Argyria is misunderstood in most senses and those who hear about it somehow think this makes all silver and every application and dosage bad. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Articles like that leave people believing if the so much as hold a silver round for too long their skin is going to turn grey and fall off :thumpdown

[Ponce Cuba]

Even arsenic acid is good for you if taken in moderation, the same goes for poisonous snakes or poison ivy.

The snake poison and the poison ivy will make you inmune to them.