ASAP & Clifton Share Holders

[AgAuGal]

Does anyone recall that the ASAP solution was offering a discount to Clifton Shareholders? If so how much of a discount and who do you call to order. I have been to the ASAP and Clifton sites but no mention of discounts for sharehoders. Has anyone used the ASAP Solution? What size for general use? TIA

[AgAuGal]

I just read another post by Silverstreak that mentions the ASAP Clifton discount. Silverstreak, how do i order ASAP at $8 a bottle? Do I have to buy a case? Who do I call - American Biotec? TIA

[SilverStreak]

The last case i ordered was on 3-19-2003---- 24bottles ---- 8oz w/cap ASAP 10PPM---- bottles for $144 asking for the shareholder special and getting it with no sales tax called 1 801 756 1414 ''''Am Bio Lab------ with a credit card

[AgAuGal]

The last case i ordered was on 3-19-2003---- 24bottles ---- 8oz w/cap ASAP 10PPM---- bottles for $144 asking for the shareholder special and getting it with no sales tax called 1 801 756 1414 ''''Am Bio Lab------ with a credit card

Thanks for the info. I'll probably call Monday and get some.

[SilverStreak]

AgAuGal :
I hope you own some CFTN.PK as this is still going to have an extemely good year ----15 million dollars in one contract from govt and more on the way for ASAP and todays press release with an unexpected find of rich gold reserves under the silver ores and Dumont does not own 50% of CFTN as Hommel has said but they own 50% of anyone of the 107 claims on their their property as i have talked with CEO of CFTN on phone and that is what he has confirmed and CFTN is sitting of estimated reserves of 1.2 billion oz ---yes I said 1.2 billion oz and 5 million oz of gold all with 26 million shares and 25% ownership of American Biotec a private company -----I have corrected Hommel and he promises to change his stats soon-----So Dumont has been given much more credit than it deserves --by far??????????????

[AgAuGal]

I have a few shares, would have liked to add some but it is getting a bit pricey for my budget. Can't complain so far. I was half tempted to sell and take some off the table but I saw the press release today and decided to hold. I am not a trader, have sold very little (McWatters - since I got taken to the cleaners on that one, I think it was one of the 'Cliffs' I listened to, Drooy because of all the in fighting and some of my SLGLF, should have sold all of the dog) since I started investing in PM's 3 years ago. Wasn't exactly sure how to take it. If those are their expectations for drilling so far have you heard when they might try to actually produce? I expect them to be a buy out candidate for one of the mid-tiers - what do you think, maybe Kinross. By the way, glad you are feeling better.

[SilverStreak]

I have a few shares, would have liked to add some but it is getting a bit pricey for my budget. Can't complain so far. I was half tempted to sell and take some off the table but I saw the press release today and decided to hold. I am not a trader, have sold very little (McWatters - since I got taken to the cleaners on that one, I think it was one of the 'Cliffs' I listened to, Drooy because of all the in fighting and some of my SLGLF, should have sold all of the dog) since I started investing in PM's 3 years ago. Wasn't exactly sure how to take it. If those are their expectations for drilling so far have you heard when they might try to actually produce? I expect them to be a buy out candidate for one of the mid-tiers - what do you think, maybe Kinross. By the way, glad you are feeling better.
Was always taught by father to buy on fundamentals first and technicals second and watch the fundamentals closely thereafter so when they change do your selling---- I hate to have loosers in my portfolio so I get rid of them so do not have to look at them --sold two out of twenty stocks based on last 52 weeks performance as they had done just a smidgen over 100% gain and the other 18 averaged over 450% ---Am totally blessed--spend much time in prayer asking for wisdom in stock picking (James 1:5-6) I have not because I ask not and after being so close to being on other side with my Lord Jesus recently i kinda developed a very close relationship with him and life is a lot more abundant lately----- Have patience on the ones that give you great fundamentals like SVL.V and KBR.V and FAN.TO and ASM.V and MAG.V etc and as you see I am only inthe small cap silvers and will still be there for the run to come

[AgAuGal]

Hi Silverstreak,

There are days I wish I were a little closer to being on the other side. This world is so cruel. I am nine years over 1/2 the average life the word says the average person gets on this earth. Which means if God chooses I have a few more decades to wonder on this earth and some days I'm just not looking forward to it. I am on occasion encouraged including by some of the folks I have met here at GIM. As long as I have been on this earth I still feel I have so much to learn. I am appreciative of those willing to teach and share.

By the way, did you notice Jason Hummels latest Silver Valuations #19 - he said he sold his CFTN shares. Found that interesting. I have a little KBR but none of the others.

I am planning to order some ASAP this next week, hoping it will help with a small rash, like hives, I have had on my left arm for a couple of months. I have allergies but I can't figure out what this is. Subsides then flares up again periodically but never completely goes away. Probably just stress.

TTFN (TaTaForNow)

[SilverStreak]

The age we are has no control over how much we will live as that is in the hand of the Lord Jesus Christ and he does not make any mistakes. He will take us home when he is ready to and not a moment too soon----- Remember Christ came to give life and to give it abundantly and if it ain't abundant to much of your activity is controled by ole slue foot---It also says for the last days you should work with your hands and lead a quiet life and mind your own business----the best advice------
On CFTN.PK Hommel says he sold part of his holdings----- For what it is worth I have not sold one share of CFTN and I have an average of well under 29 centsper share ---why get bucked off a winner------ I am aware of TA and use for its timing for buying shares but the fundamentals are why I buy a stock and fundamentals are why I hold a stock and if the fundamentals change considerably then and only then would I consider selling the stock-------My father taught me that in a bull market in the metals that the bull wants to take just as damn few riders with it as it possibly can in other words you need to hang on with your fundamentals still intact for all you are worth hang in there tightly-----
Hommel does not understand CFTN at all as Dumont owns about less than 2% of the company as CFTN owns 107 claims and counting and Dumont can have anyone of those claims as a 50% share in that single claim by using up 5 milliom dollars of their own money in expenses in bringing in one claim to the point of production ----If they were to do two claims then it would cost Duonont 10 million as it was explained by the CEO over the phone a month ago---- CFTN is probably sitting on 1.2 billion oz of silver and Jason thinks for 5 million doallars Dunont has half right to it all--- nothing further from the truth could ever be said ----- He has shortchanged CFTN and given way too much credit to Dumont---Buy CFTN and Sell Dumont

[AgAuGal]

All good points. I am still reading Jason's document (45 pages). He did make a new comment regarding his confusion over the relationship between Dumont and CFTN. I'm in at around .34 per share. Have not added any since my first purchase. Content to ride this one. Wish I could find a way to get some of the family to listen to the Ag story. I guess it will take a significant move to get their attention. Take care.

[SilverStreak]

AuAgGal

Happy to see you have some CFTN and i might add at a good price and I do have some exchanged e-mails from Jason Hommel in last few days and he said because of family emergencies did not get a chance to correct his Dumont and CFTN comment of JV partnership but will change very soon ---As widely read as Hommel is when he finally corrects his stats I would not want to be in Dumont Stock ----IMVHO

[AgAuGal]

ITs good to hear Jason is responsive to feedback. He has done a lot of work gathering all that info on the various stocks. His predictions are amazing - never heard anyone predict mor than 200 Ag. I have a small order for 200 CFTN at 1.84 but doubt we will see that unless there is a major correction or someone trying to slam the stock with negative news (e.g. similar to Royal Gold last year). My bid might seem like a bargain a year from now. Right now I am trying rangle with myself over investing in more leverage or more physical. I know other PM investors also have to deal with this issue. The age old ?, how much is enough? With no family or friends listening to me I feel compelled sometimes to get a bit more to cover for some of them. Unfortunately I am just a working stiff (I think I qualify as middle class) and all I do is try to take a little each month and save until I can purchase stock or physical. Even at these low levels it is getting a bit pricey. Not sure how my middle class counterparts are going to be able to afford anything if Ag and Au get much higherthan they are right now. I am hoping for the best but am not optimistic that TPTB will make the right decisions to save this country of ours, I'm not even convinced they want to.

[AgAuGal]

Hello Silverstreak,

Any idea what this poster over at Kitco is trying to say about CFTN? I can't tell if he is talking about the recent gold vien they found (that's old news) or if he is anticipating some new positive/negative news. How would you interpret his comment if it is possible:

from Kitco post-
Even though this stock is my biggest winner, their upcoming drill results are going to shock people CFTN...........but be warned Clifton it rades on pinks sheets and anything can happen.

[SilverStreak]

Yes, from my inside sources their drill results are fanastic as most every body knew they were sitting on some massive quantities of silver and smaller quantities of gold but to be drilling in an area looking to increase your silver reserves and then to massively strike gold in quantities greater than 1 oz per ton is quite a schocker---- now it is listed on the Pink Sheets a very illiquid exchange and this stock could experience and exposive rise ----- in march or april they will have bulletin board aproval as they have cleared all the paper work so it will be less of a problem for liquidity ----- interesting times ---and their ASAP is doing fanastically well also as it is a private company can not get much info on Am. Bio

[AgAuGal]

Hi Silverstreak,

Just ordered my first bottle of ASAP. They could not give me the price you got - said I would have to order 50 bottles to get it for the $144. Not ready to do that yet. 12 bottles would be $12.48 for CFTN holders. For now since I have never used it I told her just one bottle 10ppm ($24.95) and the book ($3 for CFTN holders) and dropper top ($1.50) and spray top (.50). $7 S&H. A bit steep but ok for just trying it out to see how it works. They said it would ship today UPS. Interested in what the book has to say even though I don't expect it to be an indpendent study (unbiased). Thanks for the phone number and comments.

TTFN

[SilverStreak]

Hi Silverstreak,

Just ordered my first bottle of ASAP. They could not give me the price you got - said I would have to order 50 bottles to get it for the $144. Not ready to do that yet. 12 bottles would be $12.48 for CFTN holders. For now since I have never used it I told her just one bottle 10ppm ($24.95) and the book ($3 for CFTN holders) and dropper top ($1.50) and spray top (.50). $7 S&H. A bit steep but ok for just trying it out to see how it works. They said it would ship today UPS. Interested in what the book has to say even though I don't expect it to be an indpendent study (unbiased). Thanks for the phone number and comments.

TTFN

I also reordered today from Am. Bio. but took share holder spl. at 50 bottles at $6 per bottle---It used to be 24 min. at $6 ea.... ---The price of success----it has a long expiration date so it will last a long time---- After open heart surgery recently I got a bad infection in the leg incision and they started me on an IV antibiotic and I got my wife to start bringing me an 8 oz . bottle a day of ASAP so i used it not sparaingly drinking no less than two thirds a bottle a day and I believe it did the trick and currently on at least a teaspoon twice daily for maintenance and yes, I am not blue but that stupid shit for a western congressman who is blue made it himself which i also do but every time he took from bottle he shook the bottle to get the sediment mixed in the solution and then he drank it

[AgAuGal]

Yea I heard about that guy. Obviously a good representatvie of the gene pool inhabiting the Congress these days. I heard the ASAP solution is filtered so that is not an issue (only an issue with the home made variety).

Is your heart situation better. when I first joined GIM I think within days you had your helicopter trip. at the same time my father was going through some unexpected heart problems. Technically I guess it was expected, he said later he had chest discomfort for almost a year but didn't do anything. It took visiting a friend in San Francisco who has had many heart issues to get him to do get it checked out. He went in one day and found out he had blockages. I week later they did a catherdization (sic) and put two stints in one artery 95% blocked and another 90% blocked. Was out of the hospital after an over night stay. Two weeks later he went to the doctor for a checkup thinking he would be signing final papers only to have the doctor tell him he had another major blockage and would be back in the hospital the next day to have another stint implanted. My Dad was none to happy. I couldn't understand why his wife, my aunt or him did not recall the doctor telling them there would be another procedure. I was not happy until after the last procedure it was explained that the nuclear dye they use has limitations and I guess they almost lost him the first time due to blood pressure issues. He is fortunate to be here. I just wish he would cut back on the drinking. Did you take the ASAP the same time you were taking antibiotics? Did the Dr's know?

Noticed CFTN retrace a little today. Have a small order in at 1.84 which is well above the 50 DMA.

Take Care.

[SilverStreak]

AgAu Gal


When i make it, it is 500 PPM Minimum and i only use the supernatent or top four fifths liquid and never shake the sediment up which you always expect----- in ASAP it is perfectly clear and has a shelf life of 3 years MIN.
Heart is doing well asI am walking two miles a day after tripple by-pass 98 % blockage and i wish it were only one helicopter ride but was three rides plus a hospital to hospital ride and after spending 34 of 45 days in hospital in and out with complications ---infections---- fungus in places even a man would not like -----and fluid on lungs((((2 liters)))) that had to be removed with hyperdermic needle and then fluid on heart that has now dissapeard on its own as I have Lupus((SLE)) and my chest got inflamed due to a Lupus flare so I am still on predisone tapering off every few days... When taking ASAP it was smuggled in to hospital and taken on the sly.
Yes, a nice correction in CFTN but Tues is expiry day doe underlying commodities and Ag and AU never do very well the week before the current month expires-- 1.84 should be a little the Fib number of 50 % retracement ---I do not think CFTN will get there but still a nice buy if it did

[AgAuGal]

Wow you have been through a lot physically (and that always translates into emotionally). I'm sure your wife has been stressed by all this as well. Hope you are getting better each day!

I don't think it will hit 1.84 either.

[Ander]

Are you sure it is "Dumont" that has this claim, not Newmont??

I've never heard of "Dumont" before...when I listened to the interveiw with the Cliton CEO thats linked on the company website, I thought I heart newmont (but maybe thats just because I had heard that name before, and it made sense as newmont is a large gold producer).

From what the CEO said, newmont can get a 50% stake in any claim by spending 5 million on it. Effectively, newmont (dumont??) can get 50% by helping Clifton to develop the properties.

This sounds good to me, as their main problem is financing, not any lack of silver on their properties (assuming these estimates of reserves arent bogus).

When do you expect these 'shocking' drill results to come in? I'd like to get in before that happens...

[SilverStreak]

No it is Dumont Mining NOT Newmont

[SilverStreak]

CFTN Drill results are in March and April but they have hired a new PR company and expect to be listed on two exchanges in Germany soon and also to be on Bulletin Board NAS-DAK very soon

[Ander]

I guess I heard newmont becasue I know it....
Thats an important difference ;)

Being listed on other exchanges will be a good change....increase liquidity, number of poeple who can buy the stock. Even just getting on the bulletin boards is a help...

About what size (%age) of your portfolio are you putting in this one (i.e.how confident in it are you?)

[SilverStreak]

I am smart enough to realize " that pride goeth before a fall"" have prayed a great deal about every stock i own especially CFTN and have asked the Lord for wisdom in my stocks purchases James1:5-6 and I quote this verse back to the Lord often and expect Him to honor his written word---- Obviously am a Born Again Christian as well as my mentee Golden Tiger who has also spent time on his knees asking for wisdom in financial matters also -------so ---- I am as close to a 100% sure bet as i could be on this stock or any stock IMVVHO --and what position does it occupy in my portfolio---just because it was almost a 10 bagger this past year --infact it was a 10 bagger at 2.50 price level and i have not sold any at all--- I believe in riding the winners to the finish------ it now occupies around 44% of total portfolio of PM stocks not including real estate or any physical gold or silver today --- not that is total honesty --not a reco to everyone but dang did it work out well ------ my worst performing stocks for last 52 weeks was EXN.V at 117% gain and have been selling it out on rallies but can not sell too much at one time as i would drive the price down and MFN at 120% also sold out completely recently all of it at 9.98 per share ---- Luck absolutely not as Christians are Blessed as we have no luck

[AgAuGal]

Silverstreak and any other ASAP users. I just got a bottle of ASAP this week. Looks like water to me. How do we know there is something other (Ag) than just water in these bottles? Faith? Personal Exprience? What is 50 mcg? Has anyone independently verified the contents?

[SilverStreak]

Since i make it ---it would be un-wise to not have a tester called """TDS Tester"""" bought from company Silver Protects telephone 888-505-6005---- I have no beneficial interest in co. other than buy ing CS materials ---This the new company of a company called Silver Solutions by mark metcalf that i have books from and have ordered materials 10 years ago

[AgAuGal]

SS,

Have you ever tested the ASAP? I guess I thought I would see someting floating around. Stuff is clearer than my drinking water.

[Ander]

Silver had been used for medical purposes for a LONG time before we developed drugs & modern medicine in the 20th century.

If silver really is better/sfe/less side effects, wy would we have switched?
You cant say it was drug companies...at the time there werent any.

Or is it that the traditional method of using silver in medicine had problems, but this new form of colloidal silver is safe?

[G-khan]

Here is an email I got from SilverStreak...........

Jon, a number of people have emailed me on this subject today, so I sent Jason the following information:

-------- Original Message --------
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>Subject: </TH><TD>Clifiton Mining Company</TD></TR><TR><TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>Date: </TH><TD>Mon, 02 Feb 2004 11:58:39 -0700</TD></TR><TR><TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>From: </TH><TD>Keith Moeller <clifton@cliftonmining.com> (clifton@cliftonmining.com)</TD></TR><TR><TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>To: </TH><TD>Jasonhommel@yahoo.com (Jasonhommel@yahoo.com)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Hi Jason,
I read some of your info and I need to give you a little more data. The deal we made with Dumont states that they do not receive any ownership in any of our property until they produce a positive feasibility study on any one piece of the property. If they produce a positive feasibility study on an individual piece, then they gain a 50% interest in that piece alone, not in the rest of the property. They have to produce a positive feasibility on each of the individual pieces of the property to gain ownership in the individual pieces. If they spend more than 5 million dollars (US) on any one piece and they produce a positive feasibility study on that piece, then they will gain a 60 % interest in that one piece of property, not in the rest. If they stop at any time or fail to produce a positive feasibility, then they will gain no interest in any of our property. Right now we have around 7 different pieces of the property that have "Stand Alone" mine potential. If Dumont stakes or purchases any property within five miles of the joint venture property, then we automatically receive a 50% interest in that property. We think that Dumont is a fine company and that they will earn an interest in a number of our properties. We also expect that they will discover a number of new deposits in the property area, that will add even more value to both companies as time goes on. With each hole that they drill, they add value and information to the properties. Also, I expect that we will blow the market away with the information that is going to come out of our silver solution company within the next six months. If you have any questions please give me a call on my direct line at 801-756-1143. If the number is busy, which is has been a lot lately, leave me a message and I will get right back to you.
Have a good day.

Keith Moeller VP, Clifton Mining Company

[G-khan]

This morning I spoke with Keith Moeller - he told me the following.
Dumont's participation in the mining properties owned by Clifton Mining
is as follows:
Dumont must complete a feasibility study on any one of Clifton's many
mineral properties. After that is completed on a particular property, they
can earn a 50% interest by spending up to 5 million dollars. If they spend
5 million dollars or more they would earn a 60% interest. If Dumont
purchases any piece of property within 5 miles of Clifton properties,
Clifton earns as 50% interest in those properties newly purchased for no
cost.
A contract is pending with GNC for the ASAP colloidal silver product. GMC
has 5,000 stores. They figure the revenue from those stores the first year
will be an absolute minimum of $1.8 million. They currently have 2,000
stores which they project an absolute minimum of $600 thousand in revenue
the next year. So between the two groups, or entities, revenues should be
$2.4 million. We would suspect that sales would be higher and we would
suspect that many more independent stores would be added.
They are in possession of a full report on ASAP's affect on hepatitis B.
That is 500% better then the next best available product. That report will
be released in a medical journal and they await its release so that they can
pass it on to shareholders.
ASAP in tests killed 99% of SARS in 60 minutes. The SARS virus was
tested in its salt solution, which tends to counteract the effect of ASAP.
The company is having additional test done aster removing the salt.
HIV tests are on-going and thus far have been very positive. They will
have data on these tests in 45 days.
They should have a GNC contract finalized this month and there is a
pending possibility of a military contract with the government.
You might say that we are gold and silver oriented people and we believe
that there is an excellent possibility that Clifton has several mines on its
properties. What we overlook is the tremendous impact that ASAP could have.
It kills a number of other viruses and bacteria including malaria. More
people die from malaria every year then any other disease. American
investors have been primarily interested in the mining properties but many
people have overlooked the enormous impact ASAP could have on the entire
world. We know that heavy buying has been coming in from foreign lands
because of the interest in the possibilities of ASAP.
If you have any further questions, please email me.
Bob