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HistoryStudent
03-07-2004, 05:26 PM
From another site today - Gold-Eagle
WANKA......12:16
(Joy) Mar 07, 14:47

It isn't a cold, Wanka, it's the government's chemtrails, directed at creating respiratory problems...here in the little town outside of where I live I'm told by a medic that half the town is suffering some type of respiratory disease, usually a combination such as sinusitis with bronchitis or sinusitis with pneumonia...I have the former...back in October/November it surfaced as a "cold" from which I never really recovered...second time around it got into the bronchi and only my use of eucalyptus and colloidal silver kept it from going into pneumonia. I think the idea of the c.t.s is the gov't's answer to the problem of medicare...hit the older generations with respiratory disease for two or three years and boom! they expire and no more problem. It will take more than gold or silver to pull us out of this one, so take good care of yourself.

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Now I've had this "thing" sinusitis for a month. Taking a hot anti-biotic with several other over-the-counter medicines. I have not been sick for 5 years. My wife and other out-of-town family have the same thing. My dad who's almost 80 has had it for 5 months on and off.

Do you think that silver colodial would help? This is one strong puppy and knocks you off your feet. No energy and I walk five miles a day. Now the couch is too far. I'm not into the chem trails above but think this is a large epidemic across the country with a sinus like cold that stays for weeks on end.

kleinphi
03-07-2004, 06:30 PM
Like I always say, this whole thing might have to do with "the American way of life". In my coutry of origin (Austria) it is considered commonsense that you don't ever drink anything cold when you are fighting a cold or similar disease. Some people go so far as to not even drink any drinks at room temperature, but hot herbal tee only until the symptoms are gone and for about a week after that. You should also keep the air temperature high and if possible the humidity as well, in other words NO A/C!

The reasoning behind this is when you have a cold your body temperature is usually elevated. This is a natural defense of your body, because most bacteria and viruses are rather particular about the body temperature of their host, and their growth slows significantly if your body temperature is raised above 100 degrees Fahrenheit. So far it makes sense, doesn't it? Now if you have a cold it usually starts in the mucous membrane between your throat and your nose. This is where the bugs build their home base and reproduce to spread all through your body. Whenever you drink something cold or even a liquid at room temperature, the temperature in your throat is lowered by a few degrees for several minutes, making the conditions ideal for the pathogens that usually cause cold-like symptoms.

One more thing might be of interest: If you have a sore throat (or any kind of pain, cough, itch, etc.) this is usually caused by the fact that pathogens have destroyed your body tissue. What this means is that by the time you experience a sore throat, the virus has already destroyed a significant number of your cells by turning them into virus-production facilities: Instead of the usual proteins that your cells are supposed to make in order to grow and maintain their desired function, an infected cell simply produce tens of thousands of copies of the virus within its membrane, and finally becomes so full that it bursts, leaving you with a tiny hole in your body where the cell used to be and 10000 new copies of the virus, each of which can infect another cell. With complicated cases like the one apparently described in the original post, it often happens that a certain virus destroys a portion of your mucous membrane, rendering it essentially dead meat. Now we all know what happens to dead mead at body temperature: It tends to become infected by all sorts of bacteria. This causes really nasty sore throats, and all kinds of green, yellow, or white matter etc etc. Most of you have probably had an experience like this at some point. Where I am really going with this is that it is oftentimes not obvious whether or not a certain remedy helps, for example, by the time you start taking colloidal silver, the virus might already be on the verge of extinction by your natural immune system, and no matter how much colloidal silver (or any antibiotics) you take, it will still take at least a couple of days for your body to heal, and you will not feel better right away. IF, on the other hand, bacteria have infested you there is a possibility that their excrement is causing your symptoms. In this case antibiotics (and probably colloidal silver) can provide significant relief in a matter of hours.

All I'm saying is there is no one thing such as "the common cold" or "sinusitis/bronchitis". These are all symptoms that can be caused by a variety of different pathogens, working together or alone. Therefore, there is no simple answer to a question like "Will tetracyclines help?" or "Will colloidal silver help?" I am personally convinced that there are dozens of different organisms that could be causing such symptoms which will be killed by doxicycline and there are dozens that cause the same symptoms and will be unaffected. The same is probably true of colloidal silver, as well as any specific temperature change (within the boundaries of reason).

If I were in the situation, I would definitely take copious amounts of colloidal silver, and in all likelyhood no other antibiotics. This is mainly because of the side effects. Read what it says for any given antibiotic and compare that to colloidal silver, whose only reported side effect has been a discoloration of the skin in a very few people, most (if not all) of whom were not actually using colloidal silver, but rather silver salts, in excessive amounts for several months or years. I don't even want to know what would happen if someone took 20 doses of any conventional antibiotic every day for several months. But I think he would be very lucky to get away with discolored skin and no other problems.

But then again, I am drinking quite a bit of colloidal silver regularly anyway because it is suppressing a fungal infection I had been battling for years (or maybe it has completely cured it; We will find out in a few months when I stop taking colloidal silver and see if the fungus comes back. I figure if large doses can't cure it within several months, then they will probably never cure it, so I might as well stop and apply it only topically for symptom relief.)

IrishGold
03-07-2004, 07:17 PM
The following is not medical advice, it is what we do all the time. At the very first sign of any respiratory problem, cough, sneezing, stopped up nose, sore throat & etc, we increase our dailey intake of Vitamin C from 1,000 mg twice a day, to 3,000 mg three times a day. We also start using zinc lozenges, and increase our intake of coloidal silver from 1 oz. twice a day to 2 oz. three times a day. Also, when we take the coloidal silver, we hold it in our mouths and swish it around for a timed 1 minute.

xzorro
03-08-2004, 02:27 AM
Thank you for these useful tips. This keeps us going !

BR

HistoryStudent
03-08-2004, 09:50 AM
Yes, we all thank you both.

lvbob4444
05-07-2004, 12:45 PM
If you don't have time to make your own ASAP, ABL has a lot of better product comming out. I can sell you 12 bottles for $149.76.

Joejeweler
05-08-2004, 08:39 PM
Well.....that sinusitis is not something likely to go away quickly.....if at all! I was diagnosed with it 15 years ago.....and still have it. It's looked on as a "chronic" sinus infection that sometimes long term (6 months or more) antibiotic treatment or even surgery might eliminate.

I never opted for either and have learned to live with it. I knew someone 20 years ago that had several sinus operations and had nothing but serious pain and extra operations to try to eliminate the pain.....nothing worked for this poor woman! And heavy doses for 6 months of antibiotics is no guarentee, and could make you suseptable to drug resistant strains of bacteria.

......so i live with the post nasal drip and thick,heavy drainage to the back of my throat. (sorry, but that's what it does). I find drinking lots of water helps to thin the discharge, and eating lots of garlic in meals and garlic suppliments reduces it also. (garlic a sort of natural antibiotic) I've yet to try some of that collodial silver, and my do that once i can get set up to make my own.



From another site today - Gold-Eagle
WANKA......12:16
(Joy) Mar 07, 14:47

It isn't a cold, Wanka, it's the government's chemtrails, directed at creating respiratory problems...here in the little town outside of where I live I'm told by a medic that half the town is suffering some type of respiratory disease, usually a combination such as sinusitis with bronchitis or sinusitis with pneumonia...I have the former...back in October/November it surfaced as a "cold" from which I never really recovered...second time around it got into the bronchi and only my use of eucalyptus and colloidal silver kept it from going into pneumonia. I think the idea of the c.t.s is the gov't's answer to the problem of medicare...hit the older generations with respiratory disease for two or three years and boom! they expire and no more problem. It will take more than gold or silver to pull us out of this one, so take good care of yourself.

************************************************** ********
Now I've had this "thing" sinusitis for a month. Taking a hot anti-biotic with several other over-the-counter medicines. I have not been sick for 5 years. My wife and other out-of-town family have the same thing. My dad who's almost 80 has had it for 5 months on and off.

Do you think that silver colodial would help? This is one strong puppy and knocks you off your feet. No energy and I walk five miles a day. Now the couch is too far. I'm not into the chem trails above but think this is a large epidemic across the country with a sinus like cold that stays for weeks on end.

Uncle
05-10-2004, 05:23 AM
I also suffered this for about 22 years of my life. Went to a chiropractor for lower back pain. I was lucky. He looked me over and then asked if I have any sinus problems ?

I was confused. Why would a back specialist ask about sinus ? He then went on to explain that, obviously, every organ in the body is connected to the central nervous system, which runs through the spine. Now if you have bad posture or have hurt your back then undue pressure is applied to specific nervous system branches, that branch from the spine to the various organs.

By having this pressure, one could actually experience symptoms with that particular organ affected by the pressure.

I hurt my lower back doing high-jump during high school and a portion of my neck was compensating for the skew, putting pressure on my nose-wires :)

Once I was sorted out I could actually sleep on my back and only then did I realise how it feels to be without sinus infection.

I now revisit about once a year to to do re-alignment. Haven't touched sinus medication for the best part of 12 years.

The trick I'd think is to find a practitioner that works for you. When my regular chiro was on leave I went to another chiro and was of much worse than before the visit. Main difference was that my doctor only did direct spine manipulation without any stretching and contorting, and this works for me. You basically lie on your stomach on a pneumatic-type subdivided bench. The doctor would examine your back and do sharp "push-downs" on particular regions and the bench would reciprocate by jabbing from the bottom.

After my first visit, many years ago, and during subsequent visits I became convinced that my chiro had a gift for doing what he does, it's in his fingers and he does what he does to help people. The fact that people travel from abroad to visist him also helps to pay for his many nice cars. BTW he charges about $15 or R100 per visit, a huge bargain for the relief he brings.

Any case, hope this helps someone.

Golden Regards
Unlce

Uncle
05-13-2004, 05:16 PM
Greetings Nailbender

I really wish you well in finding a gifted practitioner, worth their weight in Gold. I remember when I was younger they were considered "alternative" and not doctors because "how can you get well without medicine". You also didn't mention "them" in polite conversation for fear of being ridiculed. Now I'll get my back sorted before and IF I go to any regular quack.

Two books to check out.

The Back and Beyond, The hidden effects of back problems on your health by Dr Paul Sherwood. ISBN 0-09-992880-9

Includes some exercises, well written for lay persons as well.

Alternatives to Antibiotics by Dr John McKenna. ISBN 1-86872-007-1

No mention of CS though in the book above but many herbal and homeopathic remedies. Good book for Hyper-world or WTSHTF.

I'm dialing up from home and to get Amazon details won't work so please excuse the ISBN nrs only.

Golden Regards
Uncle