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R MacDonald
01-11-2007, 09:00 PM
I'll believe it when I see it.

graspAU
01-11-2007, 09:11 PM
It's also possible that he is not who he pretends to be. After all, Infidel supports him and Infidel wants world government.

I think he is for real, but I also think that TPTB would not let him get far. Andrew Jackson only lived when the assassins pistols (both of them) mis-fired.

I pray he wins, but it is a very very long shot. I think the world system is on autopilot at this point. Meaning there isn't a human alive, or groups of humans alive that can stop it. Think Skynet in the terminator movies.

Infidel
01-11-2007, 09:24 PM
Ron Paul is very old. over 70 I think.

If Ron Paul is for real and not just controlled opposition, there is no chance of him winning (media smear, electronic voting machines).

It's also possible that he is not who he pretends to be. After all, Infidel supports him and Infidel wants world government.

Hoarder, I am honored. You make derisions taking a person you never met into account.

P.S. I think Ron Paul is around 72.

creep276
01-11-2007, 09:28 PM
Where do i send my check

Libertarian_Guard
01-11-2007, 09:43 PM
People are fed up with Republicans and next President will be a Democrat (Socialist posing as a Democrat to be exact). I'm going to donate a few $$ anyway, what else can you do



That’s right. You’ve got to be willing to vote with your checkbook as well, just showing up at the ballot on Election Day won’t accomplish much - - except to instill a diluted sense of self satisfaction, if that’s all we do.
:beer:

Horn
01-11-2007, 10:01 PM
It's also possible that he is not who he pretends to be. After all, Infidel supports him and Infidel wants world government.

Hoarder, is always making to much sense.

Ron Paul is a member of the "Texas Radio and the Big Beat" Club.

The U.S. will need to show a passive side to make up for many years of capitolism.

Its a bit of the old "in out".

Doors - The Wasp (Texas Radio And The Big Beat) Lyrics


I wanna tell you 'bout Texas Radio and the Big Beat
Comes out of the Virginia swamps
Cool and slow with plenty of precision
With a back beat narrow and hard to master

Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance
Others, mean and rueful of the Western dream
I love the friends I have gathered together on this thin raft

We have constructed pyramids in honor of our escaping
This is the land where the Pharaoh died

The Negroes in the forest brightly feathered
They are saying, "Forget the night.
Live with us in forests of azure.
Out here on the perimeter there are no stars
Out here we is stoned - immaculate."

Listen to this, and I'll tell you 'bout the heartache
I'll tell you 'bout the heartache and the lose of God
I'll tell you 'bout the hopeless night
The meager food for souls forgot
I'll tell you 'bout the maiden with wrought iron soul

I'll tell you this
No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn

I'll tell you 'bout Texas Radio and the Big Beat
Soft drivin', slow and mad, like some new language

Now, listen to this, and I'll tell you 'bout the Texas
I'll tell you 'bout the Texas Radio
I'll tell you 'bout the hopeless night
Wandering the Western dream
Tell you 'bout the maiden with wrought iron soul

Kahlil Gibran
01-11-2007, 10:09 PM
22691

Americans will only "vote" between the two candidates that AIPAC selects.

:smokin: get real here

SAUM
01-11-2007, 10:20 PM
Remember,

If you are a registered Lib or Indie you will need to register as a Rep in order to vote the primaries.

Infidel
01-11-2007, 10:41 PM
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/01/11/antiwar-republican-congressman-ron-paul-is-running-for-president/

http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/012065.html



An Actual Peace and Freedom Candidate
Posted by Lew Rockwell at January 11, 2007 01:54 PM

Today, incorporation papers were filed in Texas for a Ron Paul 2008 presidential exploratory committee. More news to come!

Abouthadit
01-11-2007, 11:14 PM
I remained a registered Republican in the hope that someone like Ron Paul would run. :smile:

Same here. I'm IN.
:applause_ :clap2: :coolbeer:

blueice
01-11-2007, 11:17 PM
Never trust man with two first names. :aetsch:

3Putt
01-11-2007, 11:18 PM
I am not politically active really , but may even see if there's anything I can do to help his campaign

Me too :clap2:

Abouthadit
01-11-2007, 11:20 PM
Ya mean like Billy Bob, or Jimmie Joe??? Say it aint so Joe.
:aetsch:

hoarder
01-11-2007, 11:40 PM
Although it doesn't hurt to try, we're way past the point of "we can fix America by voting". I see some posts on this thread suggesting that it's not that bleak. False hopes only give the governmedia thugs more time to implement world government while we work within the system. The New World Orderlies know better than to permit us someone to rally behind that isn't under their strict control.

<SLV>
01-11-2007, 11:46 PM
We need to schedule Mr. Paul for an online chat at GIM. Anyone else agree on this?

silverwine
01-12-2007, 12:16 AM
He has my vote as well. I wrote him an email a few years back begging him to run. Maybe he listened to me ;)

beercritic
01-12-2007, 07:54 AM
I had given up on politics. No more for me, thanks.

But, I'd always wanted to see Ron Paul run, so I suppose I'll go to the polls one more time.

sgflaherty
01-12-2007, 12:55 PM
I think his chances of winning are slim (I agree with what someone said above about everything being on dismal, destructive, autopilot.) That being said, it would be great if he makes a strong enough showing to be included in some of the debates.
Could you imagine the circles he would run around McCain, Romney, or whoever the hell else?

Hi Ho
01-12-2007, 01:29 PM
He'll have my support and donations of my time and money. I firmly believe that this will be our last chance to save America. It will be an uphill battle but what choice do we have, roll over and die?
Lets all get off our asses and get out there and promote him. He is risking everything for us!



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available for download (http://www.house.gov/paul/press/ron_paul.jpg). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>enjoys a national reputation as the premier advocate for liberty in politics today. Dr. Paul is the leading spokesman in Washington for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies based on commodity-backed currency. He is known among both his colleagues in Congress and his constituents for his consistent voting record in the House of Representatives: Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the "one exception to the Gang of 535" on Capitol Hill. <DL>Ron Paul was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He graduated from Gettysburg College and the Duke University School of Medicine, before proudly serving as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force during the 1960s. He and his wife Carol moved to Texas in 1968, where he began his medical practice in Brazoria County. As a specialist in obstetrics/gynecology, Dr. Paul has delivered more than 4,000 babies! He and Carol, who reside in Surfside Beach, Texas, are the proud parents of five children and have seventeen grandchildren.
While serving in Congress during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Dr. Paul's limited-government ideals were not popular in Washington. He served on the House Banking committee, where he was a strong advocate for sound monetary policy and an outspoken critic of the Federal Reserve's inflationary measures. He also was a key member of the Gold Commission, advocating a return to a gold standard for our currency. He was an unwavering advocate of pro-life and pro-family values. Dr. Paul consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending, and regulation, and used his House seat to actively promote the return of government to its proper constitutional levels. In 1984, he voluntarily relinquished his House seat and returned to his medical practice.
Dr. Paul returned to Congress in 1997 to represent the 14th Congressional district of Texas. He serves on the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee (http://www.house.gov/financialservices), and the International Relations committee. (http://www.house.gov/international_relations) On the Financial Services Committee, Rep. Paul serves as the vice-chairman of the Oversight and Investigations subcommittee. He continues to advocate a dramatic reduction in the size of the federal government and a return to constitutional principles.
Dr. Paul is the author of several books, including Challenge to Liberty; The Case for Gold; and A Republic, If You Can Keep It. He has been a distinguished counselor to the Ludwig von Mises Institute, and is widely quoted by scholars and writers in the fields of monetary policy, banking, and political economy. He has received many awards and honors during his career in Congress, from organizations such as the National Taxpayers Union, Citizens Against Government Waste, the Council for a Competitive Economy, Young Americans for Freedom, and countless others.
Dr. Paul's consistent voting record prompted one Congressman to comment that "Ron Paul personifies the Founding Fathers' ideal of the citizen-statesman. He makes it clear that his principles will never be compromised, and they never are." Another Congresswoman added that "There are few people in public life who, through thick and thin, rain or shine, stick to their principles. Ron Paul is one of those few."
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<SLV>
01-12-2007, 01:42 PM
If he could make a bid with Tom Tancredo as a running mate I think they'd have a shot. There are a lot of people fed up with both fiscal irresponsibility and a lack of imigration controls.

Hi Ho
01-12-2007, 01:55 PM
Your time and efforts are much better spent making preparations and not engaging in some pipe dream.

The money powers will NEVER allow him to become CEO of their corporation, only to have him attempt to dismantle that which they've spent no less than 136 years building up. It's a waste of your time and effort. Been there, done that.

Your interests would be much better served if you exercise effective influence where you can - in your own corner of the world in the here and now.

Promoting Ron Paul IS acting on the local level the publicity he gets will help on every level.

Do us all a favor and go dig yourself a hole to die in somewhere else.

Hi Ho
01-12-2007, 02:21 PM
The fact of the matter is that I'm a realist, acting on information and experience that apparently you haven't yet obtained.

I've worked at the very highest levels of just such a campaign. I was one of the most essential cogs in the machine for a very short period of time (my signature is on three months' worth of FEC filings from a key position), but still a very, very tiny cog. So I am somewhat familiar with how the machine works.

I know now that the only effective things one can do is to make public servants behave themselves on the local level. THAT is where 'the rubber meets the road.'

And I'm far from 'digging a hole' or 'dying'. If one continues to support the illusion (a major portion being there is duly and lawfully constituted government under the Constitution for the US of A, when in reality "the 'United States' means a Federal corporation," please refer to the only definition for 'United States' in Title 28 found at section 3002(15)(A) http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode28/usc_sec_28_00003002----000-.html ), then IMO THAT is continuing to 'dig a hole'. If one hasn't taken positive, proactive measures to deal with the issues involved with one's flesh and blood being attached to a legal fiction which is acting as surety (collateral) for the national public debt, then THAT is not just 'dying', that is in fact being (civilly) DEAD.

All blah blah blah,
Answer a simple question. What do you think you gain by discouraging a public airing of what Ron Paul stands for?

sky
01-12-2007, 02:21 PM
:applause_ He is the ONLY republican that can do what's right for this nation. Congressman Ron for President--- I like it !

R MacDonald
01-12-2007, 02:29 PM
22691

Americans will only "vote" between the two candidates that AIPAC selects.

:smokin: get real here


Two choices...... One more than China.


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<SLV>
01-12-2007, 02:40 PM
I have a feeling that some supposed disgruntled former CIA employee (think Lee Harvey Oswald) would take out his grudge on President Paul within the first half of his first term.

Hi Ho
01-12-2007, 02:59 PM
I have no problem whatsoever with "a public airing of what Ron Paul stands for", in fact I think it is a swell idea.

However, having been down this road before myself, I just think it is extremely foolish to divert one's resources of time and effort to a totally LOST CAUSE (Ron Paul for president!) when one has a responsibility to one's own (immediate) klan where the resources are acutely needed and put to much better use. Be realistic.



You don't have any facts to dispute what I'm asserting (with respect to the illusion of "lawfully and duly constituted government" and the legal fiction attached to you), do you?


I never said that I would put all my money, time and effort into supporting Paul. You have no idea what preps I or anybody else has in place.

People like you enable all the sit on their ass and whine types that populate web forums like GIM. People who think they are actually doing something by simply typing on a blog. Maybe you have tried actively and did not get instant results. All I'm saying is don't discourage others from trying.
The state of our government and the world is all the more reason to support the Ron Pauls that come forward to enact change.

Hi Ho
01-12-2007, 03:32 PM
[quote=Sukhoi_fan;471903]
This is the only point where one can effectively undermine the money powers.
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Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree then. Good luck with that.

uranian
01-12-2007, 03:47 PM
It appears to me that you "Ron Paul for president!" types are the ones seeking instant gratification rather than rolling up your sleeves, getting your hands dirty, and taking a few licks now and then (on a daily basis, year in and year out). There is no 'instant fix in a box' to our problems.

Like I said, I have no problem with Ron Paul having an opportunity to speak. However one should be realistic about Ron Paul's chances of becoming the CEO of the banksters' Federal corporation known as "United States": ZERO. The banksters' will NEVER allow Ron Paul to do ANYTHING that will adversely affect their bottom line, EVER. Let's be honest, for all the noise he's made as a Congresscritter, what has he done to even slow down the juggernaut? Please give me one example where he thwarted the banksters' plans in any meaningful way. No, he's merely a throne in their side. He has also expressed privately that "'they' will kill me" if he becomes too much of a nusiance.

i'd 'ave to agree. far too late in the game. this is just distraction. i imagine, from what i've seen of paul, that he's well-intentioned, but still just a tool in the bankers' box. even 5 years ago, i'd have had more optimism than this, but the relentless pushing towards one world government has sped up so much of late that i think we're short years away from military dictatorship in N America and the EU. can you really see bush giving up power in 2008?

goldissima
01-12-2007, 04:02 PM
that is terrific, I cannot vote yet but I am crossing my fingers very hard :rolleyes:

read 210 replies:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=172573

elroy
01-12-2007, 06:36 PM
Maybe Ron Paul only has a one in a million chance. Maybe no chance at all but does anyone have a better idea or a better candidate?

Even if they run over him like roadkill on the interstate he is worth supporting so that more sheeple can be informed and enlightened. Everyone wants to bitch about the way things are but VERY few people will do anything at all. Pat Buchanan had the largest mailing list and the largest number of active supporters but he could not compete financially with the standard party candidates. Because as in all endeavors people will not contribute $$. I researched political contributions given from the county I live in. It had been 5 years since anyone had contributed $200 to a candidate. Presidential candidates cannot succeed on $20 contributions. If this is important to you, contribute like you mean it!!!