The REAL distance from SUN to EARTH - revealed worldwide first by Matt Marriott

[MattMarriott]

There are no doubts that Earth does not orbit the sun.
The hoax was created by the satanists to destroy the credibility of the Bible.
There are no doubts that Earth does not rotate (1). So there's only one question left:
How fast is the sun REALLY moving around the Earth?
Or in other words: what is the real distance from Earth to the Sun?

Answer: A fraction of what you were told in school...
A sun which size is a fraction of what you were told in school...

1 + 1 = 2
End Times is when some of those 1 + 1 equations that were previously hidden finally surface.
Solar eclipses (2) are not even in that category. They have been around from the beginning ...

Notes:
(1) Reminder: to explain "scientifically" their hoaxes, the satanists use two types of "magic": unspecified equations for observable facts (examples: evolution, earth's rotation) or equations for dummies for the rest (example: theory of relativitiy).

(2) Here the reply from one poster in original thread, to illustrate this:
Simple equation:
Sun Moon and Earth in a straight line.
Sun emits light, Moon blocks light, creates shadow on Earth.
Take the diameter of the Moons shadow, and distance of Moon from Earth.
I dont think the sun is as big as the solar scale says it is.

[silverwine]

I'm going to need more proof of this assertion than just positing claims like this. Not saying you are wrong, just want some more meat and potatoes. Have these measurements been done and verified? Also, are there other factors such as light distortion that might askew the results?

[Lackluster]

"Simple equation:
Sun Moon and Earth in a straight line.
Sun emits light, Moon blocks light, creates shadow on Earth.
Take the diameter of the Moons shadow, and distance of Moon from Earth.
I dont think the sun is as big as the solar scale says it is."

One more factor: Distances between the bodies.

Recompute.

[messianicdruid]

French Version Who Wants to be a Millionaire. "What revolves around the Earth?" Uses 2 life lines then answers "The Sun".

http://video.google.com/videoplay?fo...05081144225938

[crazychicken]

So Matt:

You got those long sleeves loose and are playing with your keyboard again?

I thought those nice men with the white coats had hidden it?

I believe everything you say, really I do. And for the record I am Revealing it worldwide for the first time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CC

[rodin]

Originally Posted by MattMarriott

There are no doubts that Earth does not rotate (1).

So the sun, moon, and all the stars orbit the Earth at the same speed?

Sorry, wrong forum.Try http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/

[MattMarriott]

Billions of galaxies at billions of light year distances from the Earth = all LIES, as comet Bradfield has shown in 2004 and comet McNaught proved to exhaustion in 2007

[Lackluster]

So what is the REAL distance, anyway?

[markam]

Just look. The sun is smaller than the moon, and the moon is only about the size of a silver dollar.

They are still above me when I am in a plane, so they are at least 30-40 thousand feet up in the air. Unless flight is another conspiracy, and somebody is using mind control to make me think I am travelling someplace else.:mad:

[Jack London]

The real question is: What is the distance between Matt Marriot and the Earth?

[Lackluster]

And what is the color of the sky there?

[momopanda]

Trying out the "Ignore user" function after reading some of the threads recently.
Question is , do any threads initiated by ignored user completely vanish , or just their posts within?
Nothing personal Matt , Solve ...Just not my cup o' tea.

Life too short is , as Yoda would say.

Edit note: Never mind , I see now that the threads remain but the member's entries disappear. Next question is , is there a way to make any thread started by a particular member not show up? Thanks any help.

[Conk]

Satan?

[Veritas]

Originally Posted by MattMarriott

There are no doubts that Earth does not orbit the sun.
The hoax was created by the satanists to destroy the credibility of the Bible.
There are no doubts that Earth does not rotate (1). So there's only one question left:
How fast is the sun REALLY moving around the Earth?
Or in other words: what is the real distance from Earth to the Sun?

Answer: A fraction of what you were told in school...
A sun which size is a fraction of what you were told in school...

1 + 1 = 2
End Times is when some of those 1 + 1 equations that were previously hidden finally surface.
Solar eclipses (2) are not even in that category. They have been around from the beginning ...

Notes:
(1) Reminder: to explain "scientifically" their hoaxes, the satanists use two types of "magic": unspecified equations for observable facts (examples: evolution, earth's rotation) or equations for dummies for the rest (example: theory of relativitiy).

(2) Here the reply from one poster in original thread, to illustrate this:
Simple equation:
Sun Moon and Earth in a straight line.
Sun emits light, Moon blocks light, creates shadow on Earth.
Take the diameter of the Moons shadow, and distance of Moon from Earth.
I dont think the sun is as big as the solar scale says it is.

Ok, so what is the distance? You didn't reveal it yet.

[JCarvingblock]

Originally Posted by Lackluster

So what is the REAL distance, anyway?

Had I realized this was a Matt Marriott thread, I would never have clicked on it. The subject matter is however of some interest.

We are shown in lower school levels that the solar system is sort of flat platter with the sun in the center and the planets revolving about the sun.

This simplistic model is a distortion of the truth and misleading. Perhaps political solutions are being written into law by people whose version is no more advanced than this simple model.

The truth is that the entire solar system revolves about the glactic center and at an astonishingly high velocity. I don't know whether the solar system "platter" lies in a radial relationship or a tangental relationship, but I suspect neither is true. And when the planets revolve about a star at some angular relationship to a tangent or a radial center line, then the motion of any particular planet might be described in terms you might use to describe one spot on a slinky toy decending a staircase. A crazy spiral motion through three dimensions where the total galaxy is the reference dimension.

The question of the real distance of earth to sol is less than minor and may in fact be the real cause of global warming.

The total time for one solar system revolution around the glactic center is roughly 250 million years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System

The solar system is located in the Milky Way galaxy, a barred spiral galaxy with a diameter estimated at about 100,000 light years containing approximately 200 billion stars. Our Sun resides in one of the Milky Way's outer spiral arms, known as the Orion Arm or Local Spur.[77] While the orbital speed and radius of the galaxy are not accurately known, estimates place the solar system at between 25,000 and 28,000 light years from the galactic center and its speed at about 220 kilometres per second, completing one revolution every 225-250 million years. This revolution is known as the Solar System's galactic year.[78]
The solar system appears to have a very remarkable orbit. It is both extremely close to being circular, and at nearly the exact distance at which the orbital speed matches the speed of the compression waves that form the spiral arms. Evidence suggests that the Solar System has remained between spiral arms for most of the existence of life on Earth. The radiation from supernovae in spiral arms could theoretically sterilize planetary surfaces, preventing the formation of complex life, save perhaps in the deepest oceans. The solar system also lies well outside the star-crowded environs of the galactic centre. The opposing gravitational tugs from so many close stars within the galactic centre would have prevented planets from forming.[79]
The Solar apex, the direction of the Sun's path through interstellar space, is near the constellation of Hercules in the direction of the current location of the bright star Vega.[80] At the galactic location of the solar system, the escape velocity with regard to the gravity of the Milky Way is at least 500 km/s.[81]

My conclusions from information like this is that each revolution about the galactic center is unique, thus earth history from century to century is also unique.


Carver

[Balancing Act]

According to men like Johan Kepler the motion of the planets in relationship to the sun and earth follow an elliptical orbit. I've also read that the math used to claim that the earth revolves around the sun can be used to prove the opposite.

But, since you like to use the Bible to prove things (which I concur) than you might be at a loss to explain the following.


The sun IS a "type" of Christ. There can be NO DOUBT.

Malachi 4:2
But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

Notice the unique spelling here in reference to Jesus Christ.

Jesus said he was the light of the world (spiritual) the (real) sun is the light of the world (physical).

Without the sun the earth has NO LIFE (physical), without Jesus Christ you have NO LIFE (Spiritual)

I'm sure you can find many more which I won't take the time to list.

With this in mind..... How do you reconcile the sun revolving around the earth? Does not the Bible clearly teach that EVERYTHING revolves around God, so to speak? If I have to choose the math for the sun revolving around the earth or the earth revolving around the sun I'll choose the latter.

well, that's just my opinion and observation...

[Turner-son]

The distance from the Earth to the Moon (average): 384,403 kilometers = 384,403,000 meters = 1.281 light seconds.

The distance from the Earth to the Sun (average): 149,597,870.691 kilometers = 149,597,870,691 meters = 498.6595 light seconds = 8.31 light minutes.

1 light second = c = 300,000,000 meters per second.

Earth - Sun distance = 1 AU.

Thus the Sun is 389 times farther away from Earth as the Moon is from Earth.

Any questions?

[mozkill]

ok, say you have 3 marbles. one is called earth, one is called sun, and the third is called moon.

the distance from earth marble to moon marble is roughly 10 times the diameter of earth marble. the distance from marble sun to marble earth is 3800 times the diameter of earth marble.

According to ( http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/l...sys/scale.html ) , the relative size of the sun marble is 36 times the earth marble. The earth marble is 10 times as big as the moon marble.

I don't know if I am imagining this correctly, but if you had 3 equal sized marbles and if you placed earth and moon 1 ft away from each other that the sun marble would be about 100 ft away.

If you put the earth marble in between the sun and moon marble you can see that the relatively large size of the earth marble would almost always cast a shadow on moon marble on each orbit. Its also pretty easy to calculate the chances of a solar eclipse, which is very high, if not on every orbit.

There is no confusion here about what we have been told as children.

[JCarvingblock]

Originally Posted by Turner-son

Any questions?

Yeah, lots of questions.

All of the planetary motions are not circular, but spiral like an elongated spring if graphed along a tangent to the galactic center. Perhaps more complex than a spiral even.

An exact measurement can be established at any particular moment in time, and predictions made for perhaps a century into the future, but my own conclusion is that historical conclusions about ice ages and possible burn-off by excessive heat may be in serious error.

When I lived in SW Idaho, there was a brief piece in the local paper about how a well driller had found an Indian doll in his drill core at a depth of roughly 75 feet just under a lava flow. What kind of inter-steller actions and reactions create the kind of physical evidence we see in mountain range upthrusts?

But I find other discussions of more interest.

Carver

[Mercury Rising]

Originally Posted by Balancing Act

well, that's just my opinion and observation...

I purpose that you remove your RUDE avatar and take your judgmental finger out of my eyesight..hmm..i guess i can just put you on ignore..not like im going to read and of your bible thumping hogwash ehh...:tongue:
peace

[silverwine]

Apparently, this issue of measuring the moon's shadow is old hat:


Aristarchus of Samos, an early Greek astronomer (about 310 to 230 BC), was the first to suggest that the Earth revolved around the Sun, rather than the other way around. He gave the first estimate of the distance of the Moon (section (8c)), and it was his careful observation of a lunar eclipse--pin-pointing the Sun's position on the opposite side of the sky--that enabled Hipparchus, 169 years later, to deduce the precession of the equinoxes).
Except for one calculation--an estimate of the distance and size of the Sun--no work of Aristarchus has survived. However, one could guess why he believed that the Sun, not the Earth, was the central body around which the other one revolved. His calculation suggested that the Sun was much bigger than the Earth--a watermelon, compared to a peach--and it seemed unlikely that the larger body would orbit one so much smaller. Here we will develop a line of reasoning somewhat like the one Aristarchus used (for his actual calculation, see reference at the end). Aristarchus started from an observation of a lunar eclipse (section (8c)). At such a time the Moon moves through the Earth's shadow, and what Aristarchus saw convinced him that the shadow was about twice as wide as the Moon. Suppose the width of the shadow was also the width of the Earth (actually it is less--see below). Then the diameter of the Moon would be half the Earth's.


Aristarchus next tried to observe exactly when half the moon was sunlit. For this to happen, the angle Earth-Moon-Sun (angle EMS in the drawing here) must be exactly 90 degrees.
Knowing the Sun's motion across the sky, Aristarchus could also locate the point P in the sky, on the Moon's orbit (near the ecliptic), which was exactly 90 degrees from the direction of the Sun as seen from Earth. If the Sun were very, very far away, the half-moon would also be on this line, at a position like M' (drawn with a different distance scale, for clarity).
Aristarchus estimated, however, that the direction to the half-Moon made a small angle a with the direction to P, about 1/30 of a right angle or 3 degrees.
As the drawing shows, the angle ESM (Earth-Sun-Moon) then also equals 3 degrees. If Rs is the Sun's distance and Rm the Moon's, a full 360° circle around the Sun at the Earth's distance has length of 2pRs (p = 3.14159...). The distance Rm = EM is then about as long as an arc of that circle, covering only 3° or 1/120 of the full circle. It follows that
Rm = 2pRs/120 ~ Rs/19
Therefore
Rs/Rm ~ 19
making the Sun (according to Aristarchus) 19 times more distant than the Moon. Since the two have very nearly the same size in the sky, even though one of them is 19 times more distant, the Sun must also be 19 times larger in diameter than the Moon.
If now the Moon's diameter is half the size of the Earth's, the Sun must be 19/2 or nearly 10 times wider than the Earth. The effect described in the figures of section (8c) modifies this argument somewhat (details here), making the Earth 3 times wider than the Moon, not twice. If Aristarchus had observed correctly, that would make the Sun's diameter 19/3 times--a bit more than 6 times--that the Earth.
Actually, he had not! His method does not really work, because in actuality the position of the half-Moonis very close to the line OP. The angle p, far from being 3 degrees, is actually so small that Aristarchus could never have measured it, especially without a telescope. The actual distance to the Sun is about 400 times that of the Moon, not 19 times, and the Sun's diameter is similarly about 400 times the Moon's and more than 100 times the Earth's
But it makes no difference. The main conclusion, that the Sun is vastly bigger than Earth, still holds. Aristarchus could just as well have said that the angle p was at most 3 degrees, in which case the Sun was at least 19 times more distant than the Moon, and its size at least 19/3 times that of Earth. In fact he did say so--but he also claimed it was less than 43/6 times larger than the Earth (Greeks used simple fractions--they knew nothing about decimals), which was widely off the mark. But it makes no difference: as long as the Sun is much bigger than the Earth, it makes more sense that it, rather than the Earth, is at the center. Good logic, but few accepted it, not even Hipparchus and Ptolemy. In fact, the opposite argument was made: if the Earth orbited the Sun, it would be on opposite sides of the Sun every 6 months. If that distance was as big as Aristarchus claimed it to be, would not the positions of the stars differ when viewed from two spots so far apart? We now know the answer: the stars are so far from us, that even with the two points 20 times further apart than Aristarchus had claimed, the best telescopes can barely observe the shift of the stars. It took nearly 18 centuries before the ideas of Aristarchus were revived by Copernicus.

[MattMarriott]

Originally Posted by silverwine

... the stars are so far from us, that even with the two points 20 times further apart than Aristarchus had claimed, the best telescopes can barely observe the shift of the stars. It took nearly 18 centuries before the ideas of Aristarchus were revived by Copernicus.

So please now explain us how "so far" was calculated.

[MattMarriott]

Originally Posted by MattMarriott

1 + 1 = 2
End Times is when some of those 1 + 1 equations that were previously hidden finally surface.
Solar eclipses (2) are not even in that category. They have been around from the beginning ...

Thread closed...
http://www.christianforums.com/t4636...-marriott.html

[Anty Ep]

Aristarchus and Copernicus were great men and correct. You are neither.

[MattMarriott]

The missing LASCO files... yet another case of 1 + 1.

In this case - see photos below - the files are not missing.

Keep in mind, these flames are supposed to be at least 1.5 million kilometers long. 1 = 1.

[Tn...Andy]

Personally, it's way more relevant to me how far the distance from my favorite chair to the fridge is......

But I'm a simple minded kinda guy.

[messianicdruid]

Originally Posted by JCarvingblock

Yeah, lots of questions. When I lived in SW Idaho, there was a brief piece in the local paper about how a well driller had found an Indian doll in his drill core at a depth of roughly 75 feet just under a lava flow. What kind of inter-steller actions and reactions create the kind of physical evidence we see in mountain range upthrusts?

A large comet coming into the inner solar system, near enough to lift mountains via gravitational force. A very serious pollution event. Oceans, continents and most surface features rearranged.

www.jmccsci.com listen to Jan. 25 radio show {bottom of page}

[The Voice Of Reason]

Each planet must have its own sun because shadows are casted on them.

[teedub31]

THE EARTH IS FLAT I SAY!!!!!

[shades2]

I had a discussion with the girlfriend recently and said I was writing a will.

I told her that I never wanted to exist in a vegetative state, dependent on some machine and taking fluids from a bottle.

She got up, unplugged the TV and threw out all my beer.