Case For WTC Tower Demolition Sealed By Griffin

[Large Sarge]

Case For WTC Tower Demolition Sealed By Griffin
Theologian Says Controlled Demolition is Now a Fact, Not a Theory
Kevin Barrett | October 23 2005
Related: Professional Demolition of World Trade Center Building 7
In two speeches to overflow crowds in New York last weekend, notable theologian David Ray Griffin argued that recently revealed evidence seals the case that the Twin Towers and WTC-7 were destroyed by controlled demolition with explosives. Despite the many enduring mysteries of the 9/11 attacks, Dr. Griffin concluded, "It is already possible to know, beyond a reasonable doubt, one very important thing: the destruction of the World Trade Center was an inside job, orchestrated by terrorists within our own government."

On Oct. 15th and 16th, New Yorkers filled two venues to hear the prominent theologian and author of two books on 9/11 give a presentation entitled "The Destruction of the Trade Towers: A Christian Theologian Speaks Out." Dr. Griffin has continued to blaze a trail of courage, leading where most media and elected officials have feared to tread. His presentation went straight to the core of one of the most powerful indictments of the official story, the collapse of the towers and WTC 7.

Dr. Griffin included excerpts from the firemenís tapes which were recently released as a result of a prolonged court battle led by victimís families represented by attorney Norman Siegel and reported in the NY Times. He also included statements by many witnesses. These sources gave ample testimony giving evidence of explosions going off in the buildings. A 12 minute film was shown for the audiences, who saw for themselves the undeniable evidence for controlled demolition.

Dr. Griffin listed ten characteristics of the collapses which all indicate that the buildings did not fall due to being struck by planes or the ensuing fires. He explained the buildings fell suddenly without any indication of collapse. They fell straight into their own footprint at free-fall speed, meeting virtually no resistance as they fell--a physical impossibility unless all vertical support was being progressively removed by explosives severing the core columns.

The towers were built to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707 and 160 mile per hour winds, and nothing about the plane crashes or ensuing fires gave any indication of causing the kind of damage that would be necessary to trigger even a partial or progressive collapse, much less the shredding of the buildings into dust and fragments that could drop at free-fall speed.

The massive core columns--the most significant structural feature of the buildings, whose very existence is denied in the official 9/11 Commission Report--were severed into uniform 30 foot sections, just right for the 30-foot trucks used to remove them quickly before a real investigation could transpire.

There was a volcanic-like dust cloud from the concrete being pulverized, and no physical mechanism other than explosives can begin to explain how so much of the buildings' concrete was rendered into extremely fine dust. The debris was ejected horizontally several hundred feet in huge fan shaped plumes stretching in all directions, with telltale "squibs" following the path of the explosives downward.

These are all facts that have been avoided by mainstream and even most of the alternative media. Again, these are characteristics of the kind of controlled demolitions that news people and firefighters were describing on the morning of 9/11. Those multiple first-person descriptions of controlled demolition were hidden away for almost four years by the City of New York until a lawsuit finally forced the city to release them. Dr. Griffin's study of these accounts has led him beyond his earlier questioning of the official story of the collapses, to his above-quoted conclusion: The destruction of the three WTC buildings with explosives by US government terrorists is no longer a hypothesis, but a fact that has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

Itís important to note that Dr. Griffin is one of many prominent intellectuals--including the likes of Gore Vidal, Howard Zinn, Peter Dale Scott, Richard Falk, Paul Craig Roberts, Morgan Reynolds and Peter Phillips--who have seen through the major discrepancies of the official explanation of 9/11 and have risen to challenge it. These brave individuals represent the tip of an ever-growing iceberg of discreet 9/11 skeptics. Indeed, 9/11 skepticism appears to be almost universal among intellectuals who have examined the evidence, since there has not yet been a single serious attempt to refute the case developed by Dr. Griffin and such like-minded thinkers as Nafeez Ahmed and Mike Ruppert. As for the general public, polls have shown that a strong majority of Canadians (63%, Toronto Star, May '04) and half of New Yorkers (Zogby, August 2004) agree that top US leaders conspired to murder nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11/01.

How, then, can the mainstream US media continue to ignore the story of the century? Perhaps the best answer was given by Dr. Griffin himself in the conclusion of his talk, and is worth quoting at length:

"The evidence for this conclusion (that 9/11 was an inside job) has thus far been largely ignored by the mainstream press, perhaps under the guise of obeying President Bushís advice not to tolerate "outrageous conspiracy theories." We have seen, however, that it is the Bush administrationís conspiracy theory that is the outrageous one, because it is violently contradicted by numerous facts, including some basic laws of physics.

"There is, of course, another reason why the mainstream press has not pointed out these contradictions. As a recent letter to the Los Angeles Times said:

"'The number of contradictions in the official version of . . . 9/11 is so overwhelming that . . . it simply cannot be believed. Yet . . . the official version cannot be abandoned because the implication of rejecting it is far too disturbing: that we are subject to a government conspiracy of "X-Files" proportions and insidiousness.'

"The implications are indeed disturbing. Many people who know or at least suspect the truth about 9/11 probably believe that revealing it would be so disturbing to the American psyche, the American form of government, and global stability that it is better to pretend to believe the official version. I would suggest, however, that any merit this argument may have had earlier has been overcome by more recent events and realizations. Far more devastating to the American psyche, the American form of government, and the world as a whole will be the continued rule of those who brought us 9/11, because the values reflected in that horrendous event have been reflected in the Bush administrationís lies to justify the attack on Iraq, its disregard for environmental science and the Bill of Rights, its criminal negligence both before and after Katrina, and now its apparent plan not only to weaponize space but also to authorize the use of nuclear weapons in a preemptive strike.

"In light of this situation and the facts discussed in this lecture---as well as dozens of more problems in the official account of 9/11 discussed elsewhere---I call on the New York Times to take the lead in finally exposing to the American people and the world the truth about 9/11. Taking the lead on such a story will, of course, involve enormous risks. But if there is any news organization with the power, the prestige, and the credibility to break this story, it is the Times. It performed yeoman service in getting the 9/11 oral histories released. But now the welfare of our republic and perhaps even the survival of our civilization depend on getting the truth about 9/11 exposed. I am calling on the Times to rise to the occasion.

Dr. Griffinís speech given at the University of Wisconsin earlier this year, entitled "9/11 and the American Empire," was broadcast twice on C-SPAN. In late September Dr. Griffin was asked to give expert testimony at hearings sponsored by Cynthia McKinney and the Congressional Black Caucus investigating the 9/11 Commission Report. He is currently Professor Emeritus at Claremont College in California.

This weekend's events were sponsored by NY911truth.org, WBAI and the Muslim-Christian-Jewish Alliance for 9/11 Truth: http://mujca.com.

[PatColo]

Just a point of interest about 911-Truth and the AIPAC sponsored Left Gatekeepers.

One of the "anti-bushCo", "controlled opposition" sites is SmirkingChimp, with >32,000 registered users, and very active messageboards.

On Saturday someone posted this story in their messageboards:
9/11 Theologian Says Controlled Demolition of World Trade Center Is Now a Fact, Not a Theory

14 replies later, "BoardNanny" locks the thread, remarking,

"This is nice and all, really, but we don't want this here. Please feel free to start your own website. Bu-bye.

BN "

(insert whip cracking sound here)

911-Truth is not in the Zionists best interest.

SmirkingChimpsters are encouraged to spend hours at the keyboard preaching to the choir, about bush=dumb, repugs=evil, demrats=good, working to get the demrats in office = good, conspiracy theories are for kooks, and anyone who dares criticize the Zionist agenda which both factions of the ruling party support, is anti-Semitic.

[silverharp]

without wanting to drap this all up again but, I wouldn't rate a theologeon's comments on building engineering and physics, can we hear from some reputable building engineers and their suspicions

[Enlightened]

There is the old, "if Bush was guilty, the news media would hound him to no end".

That is what I hear when I try to wake up the sheep.

Both parties are the same, most folks are idiots. case closed.

PS, get ready for 9/11 II, "they" need another diversion.

[Enlightened]

start reading silver harp. type in 9/11 on google. I hope you read fast.

[PatColo]

Originally Posted by silverharp

without wanting to drap this all up again but, I wouldn't rate a theologeon's comments on building engineering and physics, can we hear from some reputable building engineers and their suspicions

Yeah, let's bog down and derail the controlled demolition question with jet fuel burn temps, black smoke, & steel melt/failure temps, & pancake theories. Oh yeah and NIST's analysis. Besides, the Kean-Zelikow 911 Whitewash Commision Report fully explained it all, even WTC-7's collapse. Right?

WTC-7 Collapse Videos

[bigjon]

@silverharp

I think you've had one too many harp's. How about someone from the Company that certified the steel.

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...ght=kevin+ryan


The Irish don't know what they want, but are willing to fight for it. :withstupi

[FunnyMoney]

Randomly damaged buildings do not fall in that manner. Period.

The chances that a bulding can sustain some type of random damage and fire and then fall to the ground in perfect symetrical order are about as close to impossible as you can get.
What exactly was done to the buildings the weekend prior to 911, when the buildings were closed for "electirical wiring repairs"?

Large office buildings are repaired all the time without closing them, there is a normal "cordon off by sections" process for this.


I saw the film, the building did not fall because of some random damage.


Tower #7 is the weak point in the gov't story. There is a lie there, without a doubt. If that lie can be pursued and the truth brought out into the light regarding it, then many more lies could be exposed.

Since it is clear that the building did not fall in the manner that the gov't says it did, then exactly what caused it to fall in that manner?

Who placed the explosives to make it fall so perfectly?
When were they placed?
Who ordered the placement of them?

[nub]

Originally Posted by FunnyMoney

Randomly damaged buildings do not fall in that manner. Period.

The chances that a bulding can sustain some type of random damage and fire and then fall to the ground in perfect symetrical order are about as close to impossible as you can get.
What exactly was done to the buildings the weekend prior to 911, when the buildings were closed for "electirical wiring repairs"?

Large office buildings are repaired all the time without closing them, there is a normal "cordon off by sections" process for this.


I saw the film, the building did not fall because of some random damage.


Tower #7 is the weak point in the gov't story. There is a lie there, without a doubt. If that lie can be pursued and the truth brought out into the light regarding it, then many more lies could be exposed.

Since it is clear that the building did not fall in the manner that the gov't says it did, then exactly what caused it to fall in that manner?

Who placed the explosives to make it fall so perfectly?
When were they placed?
Who ordered the placement of them?

Funny thing ,I posted almost the same thing on a different thread here at GIM at almost the same as you

[rodin]

Originally Posted by FunnyMoney

Randomly damaged buildings do not fall in that manner. Period. Who placed the explosives to make it fall so perfectly?
When were they placed?
Who ordered the placement of them?

ask him

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=251670

[Turner-son]

Holy thread resurrection Batman! After 2 years 5 months...

[FunnyMoney]

Originally Posted by Turner-son

Holy thread resurrection Batman! After 2 years 5 months...

"Nothing has changed", is the latest sound bite here on GIM. So I have been reading up on history.
Although 2 years does not really qualify, historically. It is nearly an eternity on the Internet!
So "history" it is, and indeed, "nothing has changed"

Originally Posted by rodin

ask him

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=251670

I like this thread better, Rodin.
Over there, well there's a lot of good info, don't get me wrong. But it's just that there's a whole lot of distractions as well.

You see, the Truth does not need to be so complicated.
We don't really need to map out the entire story and connect all the dots.

And that Silver-in-his-name dork, does a real diservice to Silver.

Not only that, I don't believe that TPTB have ever shown their faces, at least not on purpose; and just like JFK, RFK, and MLK, we will likely NEVER get to the complete Truth.

But still, there are Truths that we can agree on,

For 1, 911 was without a doubt, more than just a Bin Loser thing.

And another,

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Victory will not be measured by what fiat price gold finally reaches, but by how many middle class peoples have protected their savings with it.

[FunnyMoney]

His 1st post was pretty much right on, so I'm Not sure why Large Sarge was banned?


But I am sure:

• The pentagon was not hit by a large passenger jumbo jet.
• WTC #7 did not collapse due to random fire damage.
• The gov't has a not told the whole story regarding 911.
• Iraq was not invaded because we needed to look closer for WMDs.
• Jack Ruby did not kill Oswald due to feelings of patriotism.
• There's no valid reason why Ft. Knox cannot undergoe a public audit.
• There's no valid reason why local city council meetings are often closed-door meetings.
• This list, if I continue, will take up too many pages.

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Victory will not be measured by what fiat price gold finally reaches, but by how many middle class peoples have protected their savings with it.