The most dangerous video on the Internet

[goldissima]

like the chicken we are in a free range life style in disguise. watch part 3 immediately!



The most dangerous video on the Internet

Why you feel depressed, and what you can do about it

by Mark Yannone
http://yannone.blogspot.com/2008/11/...-internet.html

With great pleasure, I once again bring you Stefan Molyneux, whose 16-minute and four-second video is probably the most dangerous video on the Internet. It speaks for itself.

Stefan Molyneux on the illusion of freedom
True News 13: Statism is Dead - Part 3 - The Matrix




also check out
http://freedomain.blogspot.com/2008/...ad-part-3.html



True News 11: Statism is Dead - Part 1

You Tube

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PART 2

[goldbug]

very good movie

[Abouthadit]

Excellent. I thoroughly enjoyed Matrix and this helped open my eyes a bit more.
Super.

[Hi Ho]

I like this guy and his delivery, he uses logic like a kung fu master.

The state is dead. They just don't know it yet.
This is where they get dangerous.

[Angra Mania]

Watching right now.

My first critique is that the video presents images of Slavery in America while talking about slavery at the beginning of the agricultural revolution. But, the slavery in its inception was much nicer to slaves in comparison to later European colonialist treatment of slaves. This is one reason I don't like videos.

[Goldhedge]

He sure sounds like DEEK!

[Caligula]

Honestly goldissima....you make the rest of us look bad.
You never post crap.

[Goldhedge]

Originally Posted by Caligula

Honestly goldissima....
You never post crap.

Why we love her so much!!!

[Twisted Avatar]

Yeah , this guy has a very nice flow about him.

Good Stuff


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[eyeofliberty]

Stefan is one of my favorites. Be sure to read his many good articles on Lew Rockwell:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/molyneux/molyneux-arch.html

And at Strike the Root:

http://www.strike-the-root.com/archive/molyneux.html

His own website:

http://www.freedomainradio.com/

[immanti]

Great video, thanks for posting it.

I am glad to see him refer to the system we have now as "state capitalism" rather than simply capitalism, it shows he has a clear understanding of the fact that this is not true capitalism.

The conclusions it reaches in which he compares citizens to human livestock are well founded. Statism means we're owned by a sort of immortal king; the State. Freedoms and rights that are tied to certain pieces of land are just part of the "free range" they give us.

A couple of interesting quotes from the vid:

"Nationalism is pimped-out bigotry designed to provoke a Stockholm Syndrome in the livestock."

So true. Sheep fighting over which one's farm is better.

"The opposite of ideology is not a different ideology, but clear evidence and rational principles."

Rational principles. Those seem to be in short supply these days.

[45 ACP]

Maybe planet earth is just a karmic repository of limited freedoms.

[drafter]

Originally Posted by 45 ACP

Maybe planet earth is just a karmic repository of limited freedoms.

Haha, Purgatory for sure.

Comes down to the majority taking the relative "safety" of the farm rather than venturing past the fence into this unknown "freedom". "Civilization" can't exist without the "farm". Without it we'd be mere savages living day to day only to survive. The "farm" has to exist in some fashion, the problem is who runs the "farm"? "Corporation" or "Cooperative"? It's pretty clear the "Corporation" has been running things for a few hundred years.

[immanti]

Originally Posted by drafter

Haha, Purgatory for sure.

Comes down to the majority taking the relative "safety" of the farm rather than venturing past the fence into this unknown "freedom". "Civilization" can't exist without the "farm". Without it we'd be mere savages living day to day only to survive. The "farm" has to exist in some fashion, the problem is who runs the "farm"? "Corporation" or "Cooperative"? It's pretty clear the "Corporation" has been running things for a few hundred years.

I don't know. I think the real difference is whether you work at the farm or whether you are owned by the farm.

If you do choose to work at a farm, you shouldn't necessarily own it, but it shouldn't own you, either.

[RealJack]

Wow, Stefan Molyneux is a new favorite for me.

Those three vids were awesome. Voluntarism... a much fresher, less loaded word than Anarchism.

Thanks Goldissima.

[nunya]

Originally Posted by immanti

I don't know. I think the real difference is whether you work at the farm or whether you are owned by the farm.

What's the difference? It's just a mental perception by the livestock.

Originally Posted by immanti

If you do choose to work at a farm, you shouldn't necessarily own it, but it shouldn't own you, either.

How would "freedom" be defined? Not working at one of the farms? If you don't work at one of the farms, what's left? If one of the farms were to say, that's it, you're all free (not productive enough to manage), we quit, the farm is dissolved. Wouldn't that leave anarchy? Is anarchy freedom?

[reviver]

Originally Posted by goldissima

like the chicken we are in a free range life style in disguise.

Originally Posted by Caligula

Honestly goldissima....you make the rest of us look bad.
You never post crap.

I always gotta stop and park a while when Goldissima starts a thread.

As always, fascinating stuff. Slavery of man is not most folks conceive of with our country. It is well hidden. The free range aspect is so true.

We have been productive slaves, have we not.

This may be coming to an ending.

Things are accelerating.

Originally Posted by immanti

I think the real difference is whether you work at the farm or whether you are owned by the farm.

The real difference is if you know the remedy.

Where there is hope, there is freedom.

Originally Posted by drafter

Haha, Purgatory for sure.

Comes down to the majority taking the relative "safety" of the farm rather than venturing past the fence into this unknown "freedom". "Civilization" can't exist without the "farm". Without it we'd be mere savages living day to day only to survive.

I believe humanity was much better off when we lived with, respected and loved the natural world. We were not savages, we were much more humane than we are as "civilized" beings, and certainly less arrogant.

Ishmael had it right.

[Buddha]

I just watched the 3rd part, great video! very clear and concise. never thought of us a human livestock before, or countries as farms, but it does strike true with me. Work more so we can take more, own more so we can take more, be free to fill up yourself with various drugs and women and vices, whatever you want, but don't leave the race of the rats because we need the wheels to keep spinning. Getting burned out form the race to make money/products for us, we'll start a war or some other "crisis" to make you appreciate the farm again. Statism is a plague on this earth.

But oh well, who the hell is John Galt?

[AMforPM]

I enjoyed that so much I bookmarked the site. I'm trending toward anarchist thought too. States have become monstrous.

[immanti]

Originally Posted by nunya

What's the difference? It's just a mental perception by the livestock.



How would "freedom" be defined? Not working at one of the farms? If you don't work at one of the farms, what's left? If one of the farms were to say, that's it, you're all free (not productive enough to manage), we quit, the farm is dissolved. Wouldn't that leave anarchy? Is anarchy freedom?

To answer your first question, the difference is that, if we were truly free, it wouldn't be just a perception. It is a perception now because you can't put your freedoms into practice. As the video says, they make it so difficult to do certain things, like move to another country, work outside the farm, take your money with you, etc, that even though it's not actually a possibility for 999 out of 1000 cows, the illusion of freedom remains for all.

If you didn't need passports and licenses you'd have an actual chance to exercise your right to work and freedom of movement. Which, to answer your second question, would more closely fit any definition of freedom than what we have today; nationalistic cattle, defending the names they've been branded with rather than their freedom.

Freedom, however, does not imply freedom from your stomach. Being free from the need to somehow fill the old bag with food is not a reasonable definition, imo.

[Twisted Avatar]

Originally Posted by Buddha

Who the hell is John Galt?

Find out here......

[Silver Shield]

We need a sticky thread with all of these red pill videos....

Or better yet it's own tab at the top a BIG RED PILL button with all the eye opening videos....

[JCarvingblock]

He has really been prolific. 293 videos listed at U-Tube: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=stefbot&view=videos

His books are free in several formats including audio formats, or you can order printed and bound copies: http://www.freedomainradio.com/free/

Of course, this would all be old stuff if you had already read the deep libertarian/anarchist writings labeled "Terra Libra" found at the site http://www.buildfreedom.com - especially the "Clear Your Mind" reports: CLEAR YOUR MIND REPORTS

Start with reports #07b #TL07B: The Nature of Government
and #TL06: Discourse on Voluntary Servitude

Carver

[phideaux]

That is one excellent video!


So crystal clear that even a politician can follow the irrefutable logic.

[drafter]

Originally Posted by reviver

I believe humanity was much better off when we lived with, respected and loved the natural world. We were not savages, we were much more humane than we are as "civilized" beings, and certainly less arrogant.

What point in humanity are you describing? Even the native Americans in my opinion still worked on the "farm", only difference is that it was a "cooperative" with eveything being done for the sake of the tribe and everyone had "ownership" in the resources. What I describe as "savages" is being truly "free" from everything, working for nothing but ones self. It just doesn't work. Without working together in some capacity, "civilization" can't exist.

[goldgun]

What a mess! Something has got to give. I am just afraid of what will happen next. I don't want to be the cow heading down the chute that keeps getting more and more narrow.

[etc]

Interesting points, but the sheeple need practical nuts-and-bolts type guidance rather than general philosophical principles.

We have a leadership vacuum. The first person who realizes this will become a great leader and guide the sheeple from this abyss we are currently in.

[Pat]

A sophists view of civilization, the "farming people matrix" diatribe was especially entertaining.

Remids me of a "Fifth Estate" flyer being handed out at a Berkeley coffee shop ....

[Angra Mania]

Originally Posted by phideaux

That is one excellent video!


So crystal clear that even a politician can follow the irrefutable logic.

What logic exactly? He starts the video off with an appeal to emotion. With his great misunderstanding of what slavery was in the past. He then goes on to say that we are like farm animals due to humanities ability to produce more then their necessities. But so what, is there a problem with this? What exactly is the problem with societies that came together to better manage society and move humanity forward? Would he have preferred to live in the stone ages? I'm sorry, but I can't imagine that tribes of men (which I would classify as a state) would somehow, without any leadership, manage to build cities or any other public works such as granaries without dissolving into constant quibbling. Sometimes, management produces better results than if every party acted in their best interests.

Later he goes on to say that Western society has become some sort of free-ranged farm, in that we are given rights and freedoms, but every single society has given rights and freedoms to its citizens. Whether or not governments are providing them. In the absence of governments these rights will be given by force and/or by majority rule. Well I'm sorry, but I prefer minority rights that are guaranteed by governments.

And then he has audacity to state that his philosophy is the only right one with the only right be called so, because he came to these conclusions with reason and principles. To me all he was doing was drawing a negative analogy as a way to satiate his personal convictions.

[Twisted Avatar]

Originally Posted by Angra Mania

What logic exactly? He starts the video off with an appeal to emotion. With his great misunderstanding of what slavery was in the past. He then goes on to say that we are like farm animals due to humanities ability to produce more then their necessities. But so what, is there a problem with this? What exactly is the problem with societies that came together to better manage society and move humanity forward? .

It is not about moving HUMANITY FORWARD........ IT IS ABOUT MOVING THEM FORWARD and you and your faimly being hijacked and forced to produce good and services for these filthy swine so THEY can live high on the hog.

NEVER GET IT TWISTED......IT NEVER HAS NOR EVER WILL BE ABOUT ALL OF US ........ONLY THEM.......AND WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THEM.


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