Why second tower to be "hit" was first to be pulled worldwide exclusive VIDEO

[MattMarriott]

The bombs detonated to simulate the second impact didn't go as good as with the first "impact".
That's why the second tower to be "hit" was the first to be pulled.

This time it isn't a video hoaxed by CNN at real-time or released "short after" being hoaxed..
It is what the illuminati media until now kept away from the public: what hundreds with video and cameras got.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk

In the case of the second tower: some of the bombs used to suggest the wings, started to mix with the explosives set to implode it.
That's why the tower had to be pulled immediately.

Revealed worldwide first time by Matt Marriott, also the first to explain
- the WTC "impacts" (suggestion technique, with the CNN plane, added with software, disappearing behind the burning tower just before the "impact");
- the dead "passengers", a (suggestion created by murdering previously Barbara Olson)
- the pre-condition for the operation "mass slaughter in Lower Manhattan (the murder of Massood in northern Afghanistan, September 9, 2001).

[TheKingsSon]

Interesting video looks like yet another "ooops" during the "plan".

[Apatriot]

Matt,This is the first excellent video info you have posted that i have not had to wade through a sea of stuff to find out what you were talking about.
The video is the first clear evidence i personally have seen that shows something other than an airplane could have brought the tower down.The close up footage of the corner support columns spewing molten metal and sparks with the blow torch effect is clear evidence it was something other than jet fuel or normal combustibles.thanks.

[Blue_pill_envy]

Massood was taken out because of his leadership qualities. The last thing any invading army wants is to go up against a unified opponent. Massood presented a big problem for the US/British/Israel illuminist coalition…….just about everyone in Afghanistan respected the guy and would have fought along with him….in a unified manner. He would have rallied everyone……everyone except for the ones on the al-ci-ada payroll that is. Jmo.

I wonder how the trolls argue the presents of US war ships off the coast of Pakistan prior to 911?

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[YoGold]

its crazy, its almost like someone is inside with a blow tourch cutting the steal away.

[gunner]

Originally Posted by YoGold

its crazy, its almost like someone is inside with a blow tourch cutting the steal away.

Ever see thermite burn?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Thermite-100-gra...QQcmdZViewItem

[illustrous]

Here's a video called playing with thermite.

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/1252.html

[FiftySense]

Not to take anything away from this video because it is great, but I wanted to post another video link instead of starting another thread which is getting redundant.

This one is: http://www.911revisited.com/video.html

And is focused on the demolition accounts from video and witnesses. There is also the option to sign an anonymous petition for the release of 911 evidence. 8500 out of 10,000 which are needed so far.

[Halophyte]

I find it interesting that the "thermite" was located exactly where the most intensive fireline was in the tower, any source of fuel can cut steel with enough oxygen blowing thru it.

I wonder if the trolls will say it was 'planned' that way ... ?

Yeah, right .... and weeks before they cut out the interior walls and filled them with thermite ...

... and nobody in the offices/building maintanance crews knew about it ...

But what about the "explosives" planted in the basements ?

You know - the 'boom-booms'.

Sure would be nice if the CT trolls would make up their minds about where and what was used for demo ...




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[FiftySense]

Originally Posted by Halophyte

I find it interesting that the "thermite" was located exactly where the most intensive fireline was in the tower, any source of fuel can cut steel with enough oxygen blowing thru it.

Completely false. Where do you get your information from?

Originally Posted by Halophyte

I wonder if the trolls will say it was 'planned' that way ... ?

Yeah, right .... and weeks before they cut out the interior walls and filled them with thermite ...

... and nobody in the offices/building maintanance crews knew about it ...

But what about the "explosives" planted in the basements ?

You know - the 'boom-booms'.

Sure would be nice if the CT trolls would make up their minds about where and what was used for demo ...
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there have been undoubtedly a number of opportunities under the guise of maintenance: many stories exist about problems with the "insulation" adhering to the steel support structures of the WTC towers. Also, the first attack on the WTC towers in 1993, in the basement of the complex, offered an opportunity for access and "repair" to demolition experts and construction personnel.

Bush's cousin was in charge of the security detail of the towers. Bomb sniffing dogs were removed prior to the attacks. Bush's cousin curiously had a change of work schedule the day prior to the attack.

And by definition, a troll is someone who enters a forum or thread and purposefully disrupts conversation in order to incite an argument. Which is exactly what you are doing.

[Apatriot]

Originally Posted by Halophyte

I find it interesting that the "thermite" was located exactly where the most intensive fireline was in the tower, any source of fuel can cut steel with enough oxygen blowing thru it.

I wonder if the trolls will say it was 'planned' that way ... ?

Yeah, right .... and weeks before they cut out the interior walls and filled them with thermite ...

... and nobody in the offices/building maintanance crews knew about it ...

But what about the "explosives" planted in the basements ?

You know - the 'boom-booms'.

Sure would be nice if the CT trolls would make up their minds about where and what was used for demo ...




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So i am guessing you have a perfectly logical explanation for what looks like a blow torch and molten metal being spewed out in the first video posted in this thread,and then you have a perfectly logical explanation for the explosions heard by the witnesses(Fireman & emergency workers),in all the other footage we have seen so far?
I know i cannot tell what caused what is on the video,But i am pretty sure there wasn't someone standing there with an oxygen bottle and torch trying to cut steel in the corner of the building.I also know that i have never seen a wind blown fire made up of any type of combustibles,act as a cutting torch would with structural steel.

I am also pretty sure there wasn't an oxygen bottle tied in the corner that just happened to develope a leak when the plane came through the side of the building.
Hopefully the people reading this thread will not be bamboozled by such a statement as"Any source of fuel can cut through steel with enough oxygen blowing through it".This statement alludes to Oxygen as used in torches and other items is the same as the "AIR" blowing through the wide open sides of the towers,which anybody who uses bottled oxygen knows to be false.
This is why "Oxygen" is labeled "Flamable",because it is "Pure Oxygen",and "NOT" the air we breath.

[keehah]

One does not need to cut through steel to cause collapse of a steel structure. The steel just gets weaker and weaker as it heats until it can no longer hold a load and begins to creep.

For temperatures up to 575o F (300o C), static design stresses can be based on the room temperature yield strength, as described earlier in this section. For temperatures above 650oF (350 oC), design stresses should be related to creep data for applications in which dimensional accuracy is critical or stress rupture data when deformation can be tolerated but time-to-failure is critical.

http://www.ductile.org/didata/Sectio...ign%20Stresses

Thus if we assume both plane impacts were similiar, the question of which tower would fall first is a function of time-to failure factors. Two are time to heat the steel (favouring the earlier impact) and total load on that heated steel (favouring the second impact).

[Halophyte]

Originally Posted by FiftySense

Completely false. Where do you get your information from?

Completely assumptive. Air contains 18% oxygen, only volume needs to be increased to raise temperatures to melt/weaken steel, the pressure of vertical loads aids in compression failure of the beams a.k.a. structural creep. Ever thought hoe drop-forging works ? Compression.

Originally Posted by FiftySense

there have been undoubtedly a number of opportunities under the guise of maintenance: many stories exist about problems with the "insulation" adhering to the steel support structures of the WTC towers. Also, the first attack on the WTC towers in 1993, in the basement of the complex, offered an opportunity for access and "repair" to demolition experts and construction personnel.

So now you want be to believe that explosives were loaded up in the BASEMENT of the tower (remember only one tower was bombed in '93) eight years before the 9/11 'black ops' attack ?

This means every bloody building in the country has the opportunity to be loaded up with explosives ... you might be .... it's also a convient excuse for the theory.

Make up your mind ! Was boom-booms planted in the basement (rusting away for 8 years) or thermite planted under the picture frames by the Owens Insulation delivery man ?

Originally Posted by FiftySense

Bush's cousin was in charge of the security detail of the towers. Bomb sniffing dogs were removed prior to the attacks. Bush's cousin curiously had a change of work schedule the day prior to the attack.

So that gave black ops the time to wire the entire building while the tenants and maintenance workers thought nothing about it ?

Gimme a beak ...

Originally Posted by FiftySense

And by definition, a troll is someone who enters a forum or thread and purposefully disrupts conversation in order to incite an argument. Which is exactly what you are doing.

And I thought the purpose of a forum was to discuss opposing opinions about specific subjects to incite brains to engage ...

... silly me, I didn't realize I was attending a privately owned CT conference.





Carry on ...


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[keehah]

Only need 660°C to melt aluminium.

Furthermore: Aluminum can be alloyed with other metals (such as zinc, melting point 420°C) at temperatures far below it's melting point. Just remember that the aluminum is not melting, it's dissolving. Like how table salt (sodium chloride, melting point 800°C) will dissolve in water (melting point 0°C).

You can 'melt' aluminium in your kitchen! (http://www.gizmology.net/stovetop.htm)

[gpond]

In that video what is burning to supply the heat? It appears that steel is melting, but it is not the steel that is burning to create all that heat. It must be something else burning. Can you see what it is?

[Apatriot]

Originally Posted by gpond

In that video what is burning to supply the heat? It appears that steel is melting, but it is not the steel that is burning to create all that heat. It must be something else burning. Can you see what it is?

My point exactly.It sure isn't the "Air" 80 storys above the ground.

[Halophyte]

Can't see the fuel, it was inside the building (not just jet fuel - building contents, combustables), we can see the fireline draft blazing, blow-torching out the tower side, exactly along the slag spot. We could have seen the vertical columns buckling in that same spot just prior to the tower collapse but the camera was fixed on the chopper instead ..... damnit.

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[Halophyte]

Originally Posted by FiftySense

It makes more sense than 19 or so hijackers who are still proven to be alive.

Proven by whom ? Who and what is your source ?

Please bring forth this evidence, not a suggestion from a questionable CT video third party either, I'd like to see that documentation.


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[Prometheus]

Having an extensive background in fire science myself (whats your background on all this halohpyte? Aside from most likely being a NWO plant anyway).

Few things burn and/or react like we are seeing in the video. Thus we CAN guess at all the possible 'fuels' that could have caused that. Since it's doubtful someone was in there with a torch anyway.

The building was 'pulled' as the new catch phrase goes. TPTB evactuated virtually every single square inch of the WTC1, 2 and 7 in rotations in the 2 weeks prior to 9-11. Thats when they were planted.

I can't stand people with no idea of things (in this instance, building construction and fire science *one of my degrees BTW*) carrying on and on about how certain they are of something they obviously haven't even a grasp on let alone comprehension.

[Penny Lane]

Hmmm, I know! Bin Ladin sitting in his cave over in Afghanistan was maniacally brilliant enough to think up a plan B in case his boxcutter method didn't work. Thus he could have had the terrorists smuggle large quantities of thermite into the airplane, and somehow managed to prevent all the powdered aluminum and iron oxide from blowing everywhere when the plane crashed, by melting the aluminum and iron oxide into solid bricks, which conveniently lodged not far below where the airplane impacted. I guess Newton was wrong - he should have said that an object will maintain its velocity until acted upon by an external unbalanced force OR it is thermite brought on board a plane by terrorists, in which case at the moment of impact it will neatly drop 20 feet and embed itself in the side of the building. I wouldn't be surprised if the terrorists heard the ghostly voice of Allah saying "Great shot kid, that was one in a million!" right before impact.

Either that, or there was a "B team" of terrorists who somehow got through all the security of the building and planted thermite in the building, just in case the boxcutter method didn't work. And as we all know, crazy arab terrorists are the very FIRST angle insurance investigators will look when determining whether to pay out in the case of fire, as owners of buildings would never, ever stoop to sabotaging their own buildings, nore could they get past their own security if they tried.

Case closed.

[Halophyte]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

Having an extensive background in fire science myself (whats your background on all this halohpyte? Aside from most likely being a NWO plant anyway).

Cheap shot, buy better ammo.

Originally Posted by Prometheus

Few things burn and/or react like we are seeing in the video. Thus we CAN guess at all the possible 'fuels' that could have caused that. Since it's doubtful someone was in there with a torch anyway.

If they were they're crispy critters now. It's called the flame front, hottest part of a fire.

Originally Posted by Prometheus

The building was 'pulled' as the new catch phrase goes.

Your assumption. Oops "catch phrase" means someone else thought it up and you're just riding along.

Originally Posted by Prometheus

TPTB evactuated virtually every single square inch of the WTC1, 2 and 7 in rotations in the 2 weeks prior to 9-11. Thats when they were planted.

I like that "TPTB" gig you guys pull. Everytime you can't name a name, find a link or get a clue you resort to the invisable "TPTB" bad guy.

Originally Posted by Prometheus

I can't stand people with no idea of things (in this instance, building construction and fire science *one of my degrees BTW*) carrying on and on about how certain they are of something they obviously haven't even a grasp on let alone comprehension.

I know what you mean, it's like the idiot I was arguing with on another thread who couldn't come up with an original thought for himself that wasn't manufactured by some 22 year old snot-nosed kid who happened to fabricate a CT video called Loose Change, or a half baked theologian who can't find an engineer to back his claims, or a cold fusion crack-pot who's looking for his next fat college grant to study the 9/11 until he retires ...

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.


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[Veritas]

Originally Posted by FiftySense

And by definition, a troll is someone who enters a forum or thread and purposefully disrupts conversation in order to incite an argument. Which is exactly what you are doing.

AMEN!! Fifty, I couldn't agree with you more! Your statement above sums up just about every post of his that I have seen.

[Veritas]

Originally Posted by keehah

One does not need to cut through steel to cause collapse of a steel structure. The steel just gets weaker and weaker as it heats until it can no longer hold a load and begins to creep.

So, the steel heats up, then it begins to "creep" as you put it, then it explodes outward into tiny dust particles as it falls to the ground??

Does that really make any sense to you?

Sounds like we need to look for the missing link.

[Halophyte]

I'm still waiting on your "thesis", jr ....

[Veritas]

Originally Posted by FiftySense

Yet they found a perfectly intact passport of one of the alleged hijackers in the rubble.

I always wondered who found this alleged passport and exactly which hijacker did it belong to...

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by Halophyte

Cheap shot, buy better ammo.

Not a cheap shot. The truth. You trying to expalin to me the concepts of fire science and building construction would be like me trying to explain to you how to build a complete submarine.... sure I have some good ideas like make it water tight and no screen doors... but I'm no submarine expert.

You are not an expert on this and listening to some stupid .gov report makes you all the more clueless.

I like that "TPTB" gig you guys pull. Everytime you can't name a name, find a link or get a clue you resort to the invisable "TPTB" bad guy.

Whoever would have benefitted. As I've said before, bush and friends (includinog lots of democrats too) in the immediate sense... beyond that who knows.

Look man, admit (to yourself atleast) you have a very limited knowldge of this subject and thus are having to rely on the word of others to form an oppinion.

Learn the science and you'll have your answer. When I say learn the science, pick up textbooks (such as fire ground tactics and strategy, fire ground building and design) read thru what it has to say and form your own opinion.

I can tell you know that yuo'll also look back on the waco video the day of the burnings and know they purposefully burned them all alive... if you don't already believe it that is.

[Halophyte]

Who needs passports ? Prometheus says there's "proven" evidence that all these guys are alive and well !

I'm still waiting for him to come up with the goods ...







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[Veritas]

Originally Posted by Halophyte

Proven by whom ? Who and what is your source ?

Please bring forth this evidence, not a suggestion from a questionable CT video third party either, I'd like to see that documentation.


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The Telegraph obtained the first interviews with the men since they learnt that they were on the FBI's list of hijackers who died in the crashes in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

All four said that they were "outraged" to be identified as terrorists. One has never been to America and another is a Saudi Airlines pilot who was on a training course in Tunisia at the time of the attacks.

Saudi Airlines said it was considering legal action against the FBI for seriously damaging its reputation and that of its pilots. The FBI released the list of 19 suicide terrorists three days after the attacks.
The statement said that the 19 "have been identified as hijackers aboard the four airliners". Photographs and personal details were published around the world with an appeal for "information about these individuals, even though they are presumed dead".

The Saudi Airlines pilot, Saeed Al-Ghamdi, 25, and Abdulaziz Al-Omari, an engineer from Riyadh, are furious that the hijackers' "personal details" - including name, place, date of birth and occupation - matched their own.
Mr Al-Ghamdi was named as a terrorist on the United Airlines flight that crashed in Pennsylvania - a plane said by some experts to have been heading for the White House.

He first knew that he was on the FBI's list when he was told by a colleague. Speaking from Tunisia, he said: "I was completely shocked. For the past 10 months I have been based in Tunis with 22 other pilots learning to fly an Airbus 320. The FBI provided no evidence of my presumed involvement in the attacks.

"You cannot imagine what it is like to be described as a terrorist - and a dead man - when you are innocent and alive." The airline was angry too. Officials brought Mr Al-Ghamdi back to Saudi Arabia last week for a 10-day holiday to avoid arrest or interrogation.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...23/widen23.xml

[Halophyte]

Uh, hem ... you left something out of the article ...

"But yesterday four innocent men told how their identities had been stolen by Osama bin Laden's teams to cover their tracks."

You got 15 more live bodies to come up with and four unidentified dead guys.




Let's be honest about our cut and pasting kids ...


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[Halophyte]

The sound of crickets always puts me to sleep .... good night.


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