Gun owners don't need preps!?

[leadfoot]

In his latest article Jason Hommel says he could sell barely any PM's at a gun show.

When asked if they wanted silver, people retorted, "What do I need silver for, I have a gun, and ammo! I can get whatever I need." Scary, but true!

It appears that these thoughtless gun owners are all planning on turning to a life of crime to provide for their needs if the economy gets much worse. That is very, very bad news for us all.

See the rest of the article at http://silverstockreport.com/2009/gunshow.html


(I didn't put this in "firearms" because this is not about guns per se but about general attitudes and as a warning.)

[Plastic]

Originally Posted by wildcard

They will be the raiders.

*they will be the heads on the fence posts as well.

Agreed, sadly they will also kill their fair share of people that were prepped but willing to offer help only to get shot in the back.

[jedemdasseine]

I wonder how many people at GIM have guns and don't need preps?

[Elvis]

They are the ones I'm already prepped for.

[Icarus]

I have preps for my family and guns for the people without preps. Not really mutually exclusive I would say.

[meatman]

if shtf my silver will be the last thing I think of.

silver would only be for after STHF, absolutely no good during.

if you can't eat it, drink it, hunt with it, protect yourself with it, and wipe your ass with it, or power up, you will not need it.

and if someone has something you need the only way you will get it is if you trade him something he can eat , drink , hunt with it, protect himself with it, and wipe his ass with it,

and even after SHTF we don't even know if silver will be needed.

by the way I have dozen of firearms tens of thousand rds of ammo
and love to go to gun shows and would never by silver there.
maybe he is asking to much for his silver at the shows.

[SilverCity]

I sell silver at gunshows. Usually there are only a handful who are interested and some even know what the spot price is. One guy came up and asked if that was really silver, as he had never even seen or handled silver before. I found that kind of hard to believe...but you never know who or what will come by at a gunshow. I even had a doctor ask me why anyone would pay good money (frns) for something like silver.

In light of today's political climate, I think many folks are first-time gun buyers and are focused soley on guns and ammo.

[sirgonzo420]

Originally Posted by SilverCity

I sell silver at gunshows. Usually there are only a handful who are interested and some even know what the spot price is. I even had a doctor ask me why anyone would pay good money (frns) for something like silver.

You should have got his name so you could tell anybody you care about to not see that idiot-of-a-doctor.


LOL. I would have laughed in his face, and held up one Morgan Dollar and one FRN, found a toddler and asked the little kid "which one of these is GOOD MONEY?"

After the toddler reaches for the silver, I would turn to the doctor and ask "now which one do *you* think is GOOD MONEY?"

Surely the doctor couldn't point to the paper with a straight face, seeing as both have a face value of $1.



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[OutlawJoseyWalesJr]

Originally Posted by SilverCity

I sell silver at gunshows. Usually there are only a handful who are interested and some even know what the spot price is. One guy came up and asked if that was really silver, as he had never even seen or handled silver before. I found that kind of hard to believe...but you never know who or what will come by at a gunshow. I even had a doctor ask me why anyone would pay good money (frns) for something like silver.

In light of today's political climate, I think many folks are first-time gun buyers and are focused soley on guns and ammo.

I am guessing that people who go to gun shows do not think about buying silver at a gun show but I might be wrong on that because I have never been to a gun show.

[jedemdasseine]

I go to every gun show I can, and it never ceases to amaze me the mindlessness of the average 2nd Amendment, "freedom" luvin patriotard.

No surprise, though.

SilverCity basically said what I was going to say.

[gbgunner]

I've got a couple of shooting acquaintances with that attitude. If the SHTF and they come near me I've already decided I'll likely need to shoot them on sight.

[bwelkk]

Morons who can't see that preppers are also 5 steps ahead on the defensive front will likely be of no danger when TSHTF. They aren't in the right mindset. The haven't prepared mentally, and most likely won't take lives very readily. Just don't turn your back to them.

I can see it now, some Joe Suburb coming to GIM Gulch threatening to do us in with his SKS, bolt locked open and a stripper clip sticking out the top.

[jedemdasseine]

[AG Capone]

A wise man once told me that with his firearm he'll take all the preps he needs.

He had a point.

[OutlawJoseyWalesJr]

Originally Posted by jedemdasseine

I do not need guns because Rambo will protect me in SHTF.

[jedemdasseine]

Expect it, GIMers. It's the law of the jungle, and it's the exact same mindset used by TPTB: rule by violence.

Nothing new under the sun........

[Iptuous]

Originally Posted by sirgonzo420

You should have got his name so you could tell anybody you care about to not see that idiot-of-a-doctor.

LOL. I would have laughed in his face, and held up one Morgan Dollar and one FRN, found a toddler and asked the little kid "which one of these is GOOD MONEY?"

After the toddler reaches for the silver, I would turn to the doctor and ask "now which one do *you* think is GOOD MONEY?"

Surely the doctor couldn't point to the paper with a straight face, seeing as both have a face value of $1.

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Although i totally understand your point, i dont think it would be a really good arguement, because if i were the doctor, i would immediately pull out TEN shiny nickles and offer to trade the kid for the morgan....
i'm guessing the kid would take the deal, and i'd laugh.

[sirgonzo420]

Originally Posted by Iptuous

Although i totally understand your point, i dont think it would be a really good arguement, because if i were the doctor, i would immediately pull out TEN shiny nickles and offer to trade the kid for the morgan....
i'm guessing the kid would take the deal, and i'd laugh.

I didn't put much thought into it.

But one point I was trying to get across was that a small child can understand that silver is "more money" than paper. A child may choose nickels over a Morgan (then again maybe not...), but a child will virtually always choose metal over paper, which is the concept of lawful money, in a nutshell.

However, in my hypothetical gunshow-silver-sale scenario, even if I didn't test a toddler, I could still hold one silver (real) dollar up next to one FRN (fake) "dollar" and just ask the doctor which one of the two was "good money". The doctor would be a fool to choose paper over silver at the same face value and he knows it.

But thank you for your constuctive criticism.




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[Darkside]

Yep, they'll be just like the gang bangers looking to loot other people.

Nothing much you can do except hope that your aim is better than theirs.

[Heimdhal]

I see some guys selling silver once in a great while here at our gun shows. The last time I went, silver spot was around 11, the guy was selling random year eagles for 25-28$.

I asked if he was buying, and he said yes. So we got to talking about price and the highest I got him up to was 15 an oz, which at the time was well below my dollar-cost-average.

He said that they were selling though. Not flying off the shelves, but at those prices, you sell 10 and make a good profit and cover your table cost.

[Heimdhal]

Originally Posted by Darkside

Yep, they'll be just like the gang bangers looking to loot other people.

Nothing much you can do except hope that your aim is better than theirs.

Honestly, thats about the sum of it all. Barring of course that you dont set up homemade claymores and punji pits around your perimeter.

Even with ammo prices, everyone better be practicing their aim at least at the minimal levels and getting family members(wife, older kids) to do the same. Their aim might suck, but if theres 5 or 6 of them and they flank you, thats it.

[Silver Belle]

Plus, what do you want to bet that even if they are now buying guns and ammo that they have never learned to shoot that gun accurately or under any sort of pressure. They are not thinking even that far ahead.

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by meatman

if you can't eat it, drink it, hunt with it, protect yourself with it, and wipe your ass with it, or power up, you will not need it.

Gotta love a guy that can cut to the crux of the matter!

[Twisted Avatar]

Originally Posted by jedemdasseine

Expect it, GIMers. It's the law of the jungle, and it's the exact same mindset used by TPTB: rule by violence.

Nothing new under the sun........

DOMINATE ...........OR BE DOMINATED.


THAT WILL BE THE WHOLE OF THE LAW.


READY YOURSELF.

[flying]

Anyone found in my garden at night will be found in my garden in the morning

[Shasta Gold]

[morganchaser]

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar

DOMINATE ...........OR BE DOMINATED.


THAT WILL BE THE WHOLE OF THE LAW.


READY YOURSELF.

Protecting what's yours isn't about domination. It's about a willingness to do so, and more importantly: a demonstration of that fact in advance to avert the conflict in the first place.

Let everyone know that you have nothing of value, and you'll fight to kill over what you do have, and you'll never have to do so. Desperation may not make friends, but it doesn't make enemy's either.

Besides: nobody wants to attack the guy who knows how to repair their gun, fix their truck, and roll them some ammo.

That's really the trick: being more valuable alive and available for business than dead.

I'd rather deal with murderer's than fight with them, and there's something brutally honest about business at gunpoint.

Ammo is expensive why waste it on people who you can trade with? Isn't that the idea behind free trade?

[Notgeld]

this thread has inspired me to hit the range tomorrow.

[Twisted Avatar]

Originally Posted by morganchaser

Protecting what's yours isn't about domination. It's about a willingness to do so, and more importantly: a demonstration of that fact in advance to avert the conflict in the first place.

I fully agree......


Let everyone know that you have nothing of value, and you'll fight to kill over what you do have, and you'll never have to do so. Desperation may not make friends, but it doesn't make enemy's either.

I agree.....

Besides: nobody wants to attack the guy who knows how to repair their gun, fix their truck, and roll them some ammo.

I would like to agree.....untill the socialistist have been culled from the population there is still a serious threat that someone will attempt to take you out because they believe you are not being "fair" because you are more 'well off" than most.

That's really the trick: being more valuable alive and available for business than dead.

I fully agree.....

I'd rather deal with murderer's than fight with them, and there's something brutally honest about business at gunpoint.

I fully agree......

Ammo is expensive why waste it on people who you can trade with? Isn't that the idea behind free trade?

I fully agree.....

9.8 out of 10 stars

[morganchaser]

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar

9.8 out of 10 stars

I know I quote a lot of your posts but I think it's mainly because they grab my attention. :)

I've even adopted some of your mannerisms on posting because I think they're very effective at emphasizing/stressing ideas/main points over others.

(Also FTR: I tried to play contrarian on the ammo bubble, and TA's record on this one speaks for itself.
TA was right. :P)

Cheers.
(I've got some ammo to buy.)